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  • mancity
    SBR Sharp
    • 02-19-16
    • 471

    #1
    5Dimes restricting plays now?
    As you guys know, I bet a lot of open parlays at 5Dimes.

    As my first pick in the parlay, I bet on KGC ML vs. GS Caltex. This is the Korean Women's League.

    For my second pick, I was going to bet the Men's League, a matchup between Samsung Bluefangs vs. Woori.

    When I tried adding the second pick to my parlay, this is the message that came up.

    Selections KGC Ginseng Pro (Women) and 314 Daejeon Samsung Fire Bluefangs* are invalid within the same Parlay. Please make a different selection.


    I contacted customer support, and they say that these two plays cannot be parlayed together because they are correlated.

    This is a women's league match and a men's league match. How is this correlated, I asked.

    This is what I got from a man named, Tyrone.

    "according to the wagering department all Korean league games cannot be parlayed together unfortunately. they are considered correlated due to the league they are in."

    What the hell is that supposed to mean?

    It's like they are trying to prevent me from betting on certain matches. They've been removing spreads and O/U totals on matches I wanted to bet on several occasions now.

    PATHETIC
  • sportsfan9698
    SBR MVP
    • 05-17-14
    • 1995

    #2
    Originally posted by mancity
    As you guys know, I bet a lot of open parlays at 5Dimes.

    As my first pick in the parlay, I bet on KGC ML vs. GS Caltex. This is the Korean Women's League.

    For my second pick, I was going to bet the Men's League, a matchup between Samsung Bluefangs vs. Woori.

    When I tried adding the second pick to my parlay, this is the message that came up.

    Selections KGC Ginseng Pro (Women) and 314 Daejeon Samsung Fire Bluefangs* are invalid within the same Parlay. Please make a different selection.


    I contacted customer support, and they say that these two plays cannot be parlayed together because they are correlated.

    This is a women's league match and a men's league match. How is this correlated, I asked.

    This is what I got from a man named, Tyrone.

    "according to the wagering department all Korean league games cannot be parlayed together unfortunately. they are considered correlated due to the league they are in."

    What the hell is that supposed to mean?

    It's like they are trying to prevent me from betting on certain matches. They've been removing spreads and O/U totals on matches I wanted to bet on several occasions now.

    PATHETIC
    5dimes is a very smart organization. I don't know why they eliminate these plays, but I'm certain they have good reason. I would guess it has something to do with the fixing of those games... just a guess.
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    • sportsfan9698
      SBR MVP
      • 05-17-14
      • 1995

      #3
      I also wager at 5dimes... please clue me in as to how I create an "open parlay"

      I didn't even know that was an option
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      • mancity
        SBR Sharp
        • 02-19-16
        • 471

        #4
        Originally posted by sportsfan9698
        5dimes is a very smart organization. I don't know why they eliminate these plays, but I'm certain they have good reason. I would guess it has something to do with the fixing of those games... just a guess.
        They shouldn't allow betting on these games if fixing was an issue. I've always bet the Korean volleyball leagues in parlays together without an issue.
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        • sportsfan9698
          SBR MVP
          • 05-17-14
          • 1995

          #5
          nevermind - I figured it out. you need to declare how many spots you want up front. I don't see the sense in doing this at all.

          You can create your own open parlay of any number of legs you wish by using IF WAGERS
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          • mancity
            SBR Sharp
            • 02-19-16
            • 471

            #6
            This is just ridiculous. Talking to this uneducated lady named Megan on chat and here is her response,

            "Those are consider "other sports" therefore selections of the same league are consider correlated you are not going to be able to parlay those."

            I bet Korean volleyball together in the same parlay several times before without an issue.
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            • mancity
              SBR Sharp
              • 02-19-16
              • 471

              #7
              SBR report this or do what you have to do! 5Dimes is no A bookie.
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              • mancity
                SBR Sharp
                • 02-19-16
                • 471

                #8
                so your saying cause im in north america, i can't include the korean league matches in a parlay together?
                MeganI did not say that
                I said : 'those leagues are outside of North America."

                what does that have to do with anything?

                i bet on european matches all the time
                no problem
                MeganThose are consider "other sports" therefore selections of the same league are consider correlated you are not going to be able to parlay those.

                i done it in the past

                without an issue
                MeganWagering team already reviewed on this, you cannot parlay those lines, that is the final answer.

                point to me with a rule in your rulebook

                MeganTyrone gave you the reason and I also did, unfortunately you cannot parlay those.

                i need to see your rules

                send me a link from your website with the rule
                Megan"Parlays containing spreads, moneylines or team totals of 1st half, 2nd half, periods and quarters of the same sporting event are considered correlated parlays and are not permitted" http://www.5dimes.eu/sb_wagertypes.html#parlays Please consider leagues under "other sports" are consider correlated as I already mentionedTypes of Sports Bets | Sportsbook | 5Dimes Sportsbook - Casino - Live Dealer Casino - Bingo - Mini Casino Games - Racebook - Lottery - Poker

                Not the same sporting event, MEgan

                two completely different games
                "other sports" is not in the rules from the link you sent
                MeganAs I already mentioned the same league is consider correlated.
                Wagering already reviewed on this, if you like to double check with a wagering manager you can contact us after 9:00am EST.

                so if i bet different games from the bundesliga soccer league and parlay them together, it is considered invalid and correlated, correct?

                from what your saying
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                • sportsfan9698
                  SBR MVP
                  • 05-17-14
                  • 1995

                  #9
                  Dude if you don't like how 5dimes is managing their business you have other choices so use your option to leave. I for for certain you are not going to tell 5dimes how they should run their business by stomping your feet and demanding it. I'm also pretty certain SBR is not going to wage war with one of the most respected books on the planet because you are throwing a hissy fit because you cannot parlay Korean volleyball.

                  Good fuking god are you losing your mind?
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                  • sportsfan9698
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-17-14
                    • 1995

                    #10
                    I do know one thing... if you continue to argue with the CS personnel at 5 dimes they will limit you to about 0.99 per wager. So you had better think again before going off with them. They don't take that shit
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                    • mancity
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 02-19-16
                      • 471

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sportsfan9698
                      I do know one thing... if you continue to argue with the CS personnel at 5 dimes they will limit you to about 0.99 per wager. So you had better think again before going off with them. They don't take that shit
                      Sportsfan, I've been with this book for years and I know they're one of the top bookies.

                      This was clearly a mistake they made on their part. Spoke to a man named Bruce and here is his repsonse,

                      "I apologize for the inconvenience, at this time I do not have an accurate response as to why this correlation error message was given by the system.I will have to further consult with Wagering Management to find out what was the reason for this or if this was a system error."

                      So clearly, this was an error on their part.

                      And no, I am not fuking losing my mind, you dumbfuk
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                      • mancity
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 02-19-16
                        • 471

                        #12
                        Originally posted by sportsfan9698
                        I do know one thing... if you continue to argue with the CS personnel at 5 dimes they will limit you to about 0.99 per wager. So you had better think again before going off with them. They don't take that shit
                        You think I didn't know that too?
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                        • sportsfan9698
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-17-14
                          • 1995

                          #13
                          So now attack me and call me a dumbfuk?

                          fuk you I was trying to reason and help you... not again
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388189

                            #14
                            rules are rules

                            They must have a reason for it Son
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                            • Russian Rocket
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 09-02-12
                              • 43910

                              #15
                              Originally posted by sportsfan9698
                              nevermind - I figured it out. you need to declare how many spots you want up front. I don't see the sense in doing this at all.

                              You can create your own open parlay of any number of legs you wish by using IF WAGERS
                              There is cap on how much you can roll in with IF wagers. Open parlays don't have that, as long as the total win doesn't tip over 500K.
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                              • PorkChop
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-18-08
                                • 8193

                                #16
                                I haven't heard a positive report from 5dimes in over a year
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                                • sportsfan9698
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-17-14
                                  • 1995

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Russian Rocket
                                  There is cap on how much you can roll in with IF wagers. Open parlays don't have that, as long as the total win doesn't tip over 500K.
                                  True... didn't think about that. Most books I thought capped out parlays at about $100k who pays $500k ?
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                                  • sportsfan9698
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 05-17-14
                                    • 1995

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by PorkChop
                                    I haven't heard a positive report from 5dimes in over a year
                                    I have not heard anything negative, and they always pay me promptly when asked. What is your beef with 5dimes?
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                                    • sportsfan9698
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 05-17-14
                                      • 1995

                                      #19
                                      You do realize that since 5dimes is destroying most of their competition, other less reputable books pay people to make complaints on gambling forums... it is a fact. I don't think that is what we have here in this thread.
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388189

                                        #20
                                        5 Dimes might be best book in world even better than Pinnacle
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                                        • triplecrown333
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-13-14
                                          • 1524

                                          #21
                                          very happy with 5dimes, but their live bj dealers are assasins
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                                          • DGG23
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-13-15
                                            • 1009

                                            #22
                                            Korean league
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                                            • downsouth
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-13-11
                                              • 11580

                                              #23
                                              I'm surprised they allow open parlays with such small markets
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                                              • michlafon15
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 07-28-16
                                                • 981

                                                #24
                                                They should make a complaint on you for betting Korean league volleyball
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                                                • Optional
                                                  Administrator
                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                  • 60741

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by mancity
                                                  SBR report this or do what you have to do! 5Dimes is no A bookie.
                                                  Strange after playing open parlays for so long at 5Dimes that you don't already know they have a complex system for deciding what can be parlayed and what cannot. "Other" sports have always been very limited with parlays.

                                                  This seems completely normal to me. Sounds like you just want to have a beef if the word correlated is correct or not. And I doubt you can find any other book that will allow you to make the bet you are saying 5Dimes should offer.

                                                  5Dimes offer more parlayable options than any other book on the planet. If they did not understand how to manage that risk they could not do it.

                                                  But if you still think you are right and SBR has to do something, feel free to fill in a Sportsbook Complaint form




                                                  Originally posted by mancity
                                                  so your saying cause im in north america, i can't include the korean league matches in a parlay together?
                                                  MeganI did not say that
                                                  I said : 'those leagues are outside of North America."

                                                  what does that have to do with anything?

                                                  i bet on european matches all the time
                                                  no problem
                                                  MeganThose are consider "other sports" therefore selections of the same league are consider correlated you are not going to be able to parlay those.

                                                  i done it in the past

                                                  without an issue
                                                  MeganWagering team already reviewed on this, you cannot parlay those lines, that is the final answer.

                                                  point to me with a rule in your rulebook

                                                  MeganTyrone gave you the reason and I also did, unfortunately you cannot parlay those.

                                                  i need to see your rules

                                                  send me a link from your website with the rule
                                                  Megan"Parlays containing spreads, moneylines or team totals of 1st half, 2nd half, periods and quarters of the same sporting event are considered correlated parlays and are not permitted" http://www.5dimes.eu/sb_wagertypes.html#parlays Please consider leagues under "other sports" are consider correlated as I already mentionedTypes of Sports Bets | Sportsbook | 5Dimes Sportsbook - Casino - Live Dealer Casino - Bingo - Mini Casino Games - Racebook - Lottery - Poker

                                                  Not the same sporting event, MEgan

                                                  two completely different games
                                                  "other sports" is not in the rules from the link you sent
                                                  MeganAs I already mentioned the same league is consider correlated.
                                                  Wagering already reviewed on this, if you like to double check with a wagering manager you can contact us after 9:00am EST.

                                                  so if i bet different games from the bundesliga soccer league and parlay them together, it is considered invalid and correlated, correct?

                                                  from what your saying

                                                  Be careful harassing the CS staff over and again or you will find yourself either being booted or penalized.

                                                  If you get a No that you dont understand there, dont just keep going back and arguing with CS, ask for a manger or Becky or Tony. Or fill in an SBR form.
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                                                  • luctens
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 07-04-16
                                                    • 521

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by mancity
                                                    SBR report this or do what you have to do! 5Dimes is no A bookie.
                                                    You really think SBR are going to report this and consider for one second to change 5Dimes rating because of this tiddly little matter?! You are out of your mind. Stop trying to make such a big deal over such a nothing issue. Any bookmaker can restrict betting accumulators on certain selections or anything of that nature, they are allowed to do that whenever they want at no notice whatsoever, deal with it and get over it.
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                                                    • luctens
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 07-04-16
                                                      • 521

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                      5 Dimes might be best book in world even better than Pinnacle
                                                      What a load of rubbish. If you're a smart bettor 5Dimes will boot you out the door. It's only mugs that would try and make such a stupid claim that "5 Dimes might be best book in world even better than Pinnacle".
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                                                      • sportsfan9698
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 05-17-14
                                                        • 1995

                                                        #28
                                                        mancity has exposed himself for being a petulant child... too bad I really do like that avatar
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                                                        • mancity
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 02-19-16
                                                          • 471

                                                          #29
                                                          You guys don't know but Korean volleyball is about the easiest sport to bet on. I don't remember losing on korean volleyball
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                                                          • mancity
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 02-19-16
                                                            • 471

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by sportsfan9698
                                                            mancity has exposed himself for being a petulant child... too bad I really do like that avatar
                                                            Damn son get over me calling you a dumbfuk
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                                                            • Sam Odom
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 10-30-05
                                                              • 58063

                                                              #31
                                                              Tony > god
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                                                              • evo34
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 11-09-08
                                                                • 1032

                                                                #32
                                                                I'm sure you're absolutely destroying them with their $50 limits on volleyball...
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                                                                • mancity
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 02-19-16
                                                                  • 471

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Email from 5dimes.

                                                                  Greetings!Thank you for contacting 5Dimes Casino & Sportsbook.We inform you that after further review by Wagering Management, it was determined that indeed, the situation where you got the “correlated error message” was due to human error. When the lines are posted, they must be set up in a certain way in order to avoid this correlation error. So, therefore, in your specific situation, you were supposed to be able to parlay both selections.

                                                                  I sincerely apologize for this inconvenience, for the misleading information we provided to you. This is not acceptable under any circumstance, therefore I deeply regret not been able to provide you the proper assistance on this matter. We, at Customer Service, thrive on providing industry leading support. We hope that this issue won’t jeopardize our business relationship for future reference. Once again, my apologies and appreciation for understanding the situation.

                                                                  If you have any more questions regarding this or any other matter, don't hesitate to contact us using our live chat, email or phone services.Best Regards,Bruce5Dimes GroupCustomer Service
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                                                                  • mancity
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 02-19-16
                                                                    • 471

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by evo34
                                                                    I'm sure you're absolutely destroying them with their $50 limits on volleyball...
                                                                    The limits aren't set at 50...I've been playing them in parlays risking 200 and hit many
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                                                                    • gauchojake
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                                                                      • 09-17-10
                                                                      • 34103

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Guys named Bruce are usually awesome.
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