Guys stop taking bad numbers.

**sportsfan9698** · 12-02-16, 01:21 PM

That is not what I meant if you were following the conversation you would know that.

Are an asshole in real life or just an internet asshole?

**vividjohn45** · 12-02-16, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by sportsfan9698

That is not what I meant if you were following the conversation you would know that.

Are an asshole in real life or just an internet asshole?

Just not following the point shaving argument as a edge in sportsbetting. To know that data you have to be deep mafiasio. And only jj has that kind of connection around this forum. At least as a daily poster.

**Jayvegas420** · 12-02-16, 01:47 PM

Sports fan.
I might be wrong but, are you confusing point shaving with line shopping?

**Jayvegas420** · 12-02-16, 01:48 PM

Point shaving involves players, refs & coaches.
Line shopping involves the books.

**sportsfan9698** · 12-02-16, 01:57 PM

I used the term point shaving meaning line shopping, and wagering early... anything in which you worry about 0.5 point and such.

I was trying to make the point that the result of a cover or not covering rarely actually comes down to such matters... 95% of the games are decided by several to dozens of points.

I know what point shaving means. my bad

**Jayvegas420** · 12-02-16, 01:59 PM

I'd say it's closer to 85%-90%

**INVEGA MAN** · 12-02-16, 02:02 PM

I always have the best numbers because after I bet, I don't look at where line ended up. why should I?

**jtoler** · 12-02-16, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by sportsfan9698

I used the term point shaving meaning line shopping, and wagering early... anything in which you worry about 0.5 point and such.

I was trying to make the point that the result of a cover or not covering rarely actually comes down to such matters... 95% of the games are decided by several to dozens of points.

I know what point shaving means. my bad

Any and every body even remotely related to sports betting would never insinuate "point shaving" to mean anything other than a player or players purposely not covering a point spread and youre the guy that's gonna prove that beating the closer doesnt matter?

**Waterstpub87** · 12-02-16, 02:13 PM

Sportsfan, you have to think long term. Say that you bet 10 plays a day for a year at 110 to win 100.

Say you made a total of 3650 plays.

Normally, you win 1825, and lose 1825, for a loss of 9125

Say that instead, you get the best line, and it matters only 5% of the time. So now, you win ~1916 plays, losing 1734.

Total Profit 191,600
Total Loss 190,740

Total winnings 760$

**Booya711** · 12-02-16, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Sports fan. Just stop.

Funny as he jumps in every thread acting like has a clue but picks losers at an 80% clip....you can't make this shit up LB

**lakerboy** · 12-02-16, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by Booya711

Funny as he jumps in every thread acting like has a clue but picks losers at an 80% clip....you can't make this shit up LB

Oh really? I haven't looked at his thread. Wow.

**Booya711** · 12-02-16, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Oh really? I haven't looked at his thread. Wow.

No need to unless you need a good laugh or make sure you aren't on the same side as him

**lakerboy** · 12-02-16, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by Booya711

No need to unless you need a good laugh or make sure you aren't on the same side as him

Few drinks tonight then I Will weigh in.

**sportsfan9698** · 12-02-16, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by Booya711

No need to unless you need a good laugh or make sure you aren't on the same side as him

I will post my winners tonight... mostly for you guys to fade

**jjgold** · 12-02-16, 02:37 PM

No such thing as best time to bet a game

Moves go against you a lot also

Pinny juice more valuable

**sportsfan9698** · 12-02-16, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

No such thing as best time to bet a game

Moves go against you a lot also

Pinny juice more valuable

Agreed.

**lakerboy** · 12-02-16, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

No such thing as best time to bet a game

Moves go against you a lot also

Pinny juice more valuable

True but you don't get my point.

**PorkChop** · 12-02-16, 02:50 PM

Live betting changes all.

All I wanted yesterday was a Cowboys ML at -115 or less, had to control myself and be patient, which wasn't easy, but got it and hit it. Pick your spots, load your guns, and bring home dinner men.