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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388189

    #1
    Boston College/Florida St Tonight
    Florida St been erratic all year

    Home -21

    A lot of points
  • Itsamazing777
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-14-12
    • 12602

    #2
    bc backdoor likely
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    • triplecrown333
      SBR MVP
      • 07-13-14
      • 1524

      #3
      gonna pass on this, better cards in the nba tonight
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388189

        #4
        Possible under
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        • survive
          SBR MVP
          • 01-08-11
          • 2388

          #5
          Pass. College hoops and USA vs Mexico futbol
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          • Sam Odom
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-30-05
            • 58063

            #6
            jjgold is the hottest capper right now

            on an incredible run with real money bets
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            • deuceswild
              SBR High Roller
              • 11-10-16
              • 192

              #7
              BC should be a play as pathetic as they were last week. Think I had 25.5 ag Louisville. Took a shower it was 21-0 , dead serious.
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              • LT Profits
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 10-27-06
                • 90963

                #8
                PASS-adena, my model and linesmakers are pretty much in sync here. I get FSU -22.56 and 47.56.
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388189

                  #9
                  Does the game mean much for Florida State?
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                  • LT Profits
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-27-06
                    • 90963

                    #10
                    Down to -19.5, I still would never lay it though.
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                    • rizespor
                      SBR MVP
                      • 06-21-16
                      • 1900

                      #11
                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                      Down to -19.5, I still would never lay it though.
                      Why??? What's the point of having a model if you're going to ignore perceived value?
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                      • LT Profits
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-27-06
                        • 90963

                        #12
                        Originally posted by rizespor
                        Why??? What's the point of having a model if you're going to ignore perceived value?
                        I almost never lay more than -10 in ATS sports, model can't account for easing up or pulling starters with big lead leaving backdoor open.
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                        • Sam Odom
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-30-05
                          • 58063

                          #13
                          Originally posted by LT Profits
                          Down to -19.5, I still would never lay it though.

                          JJ got the Sharp #
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                          • INVEGA MAN
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-30-08
                            • 6793

                            #14
                            BC offense is bad
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                            • rizespor
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-21-16
                              • 1900

                              #15
                              Originally posted by LT Profits
                              I almost never lay more than -10 in ATS sports, model can't account for easing up or pulling starters with big lead leaving backdoor open.
                              Well isnt your model based on past results? So wouldn't all of that be factored in already?
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                              • deuceswild
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 11-10-16
                                • 192

                                #16
                                Teased FSU and Over
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                                • LT Profits
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-27-06
                                  • 90963

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by rizespor
                                  Well isnt your model based on past results? So wouldn't all of that be factored in already?
                                  How could you possibly account for Florida State pulling starters with say a 24-point lead in the fourth quarter and then allowing a "meaningless" late touchdown? Remember, model results assume an honest all-out effort for 60 minutes.
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                                  • funnyb25
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 07-09-09
                                    • 39659

                                    #18
                                    Pass

                                    Will be studying for the weekend
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                                    • rizespor
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 06-21-16
                                      • 1900

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                                      How could you possibly account for Florida State pulling starters with say a 24-point lead in the fourth quarter and then allowing a "meaningless" late touchdown? Remember, model results assume an honest all-out effort for 60 minutes.
                                      Well haven't they played games in the past where they were big favorites?? So let's say they jumped out to a 24 pt lead and then allowed a td late. The data you get from that game will have factored in the "meaningless" touchdown. I mean it still counts right? The points allowed, the yards allowed. Conversely let's say they didn't ease up and didn't allow the backdoor td. Then wouldn't that be reflected in the data as well?
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                                      • LT Profits
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-27-06
                                        • 90963

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by rizespor
                                        Well haven't they played games in the past where they were big favorites?? So let's say they jumped out to a 24 pt lead and then allowed a td late. The data you get from that game will have factored in the "meaningless" touchdown. I mean it still counts right? The points allowed, the yards allowed. Conversely let's say they didn't ease up and didn't allow the backdoor td. Then wouldn't that be reflected in the data as well?
                                        No because my model does not literally include points scored and points against because those are meaningless stats by themselves. It only includes relevant stats that have a direct correlation to points, or to put it another way, what the points scored/allowed SHOULD be based on those stats.

                                        Besides, there are thousands of bettable games each year, there is no need to bet double-digit favorites and then have to sweat out backdoors at the end. I sleep better avoiding big favorites.
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                                        • rizespor
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 06-21-16
                                          • 1900

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by LT Profits
                                          No because my model does not literally include points scored and points against because those are meaningless stats by themselves. It only includes relevant stats that have a direct correlation to points, or to put it another way, what the points scored/allowed SHOULD be based on those stats.

                                          Besides, there are thousands of bettable games each year, there is no need to bet double-digit favorites and then have to sweat out backdoors at the end. I sleep better avoiding big favorites.
                                          Right well I'm sure there's more advanced metrics used than points allowed, just meant that in general the game situation should have already presented itself in past games so it should be somewhat factored in. But anyway that's fair enough. I don't particularly like playing large favorites either!
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388189

                                            #22
                                            Based on this thread may be a small small play on Florida State
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                                            • stackz125
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-03-16
                                              • 6191

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              Based on this thread may be a small small play on Florida State
                                              JJ do you have a model or is just based on gut feeling???
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                                              • BigdaddyQH
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 07-13-09
                                                • 19530

                                                #24
                                                This game is throwaway game for State. B.C needs it to stay in the hunt for a bowl game. They also play well ATS at Florida State. The line is dropping, down to 19 in some Vegas shops. If anything, Under 47 looks decent. Pass.
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                                                • deuceswild
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 11-10-16
                                                  • 192

                                                  #25
                                                  BC doesn't have the athleticism on offense to put up a contest. Still teased FSU and Under.

                                                  * this late in the season fade the line moves.
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388189

                                                    #26
                                                    These night games seem so tough
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                                                    • paco
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 05-07-09
                                                      • 62873

                                                      #27
                                                      Bc shutout cashes the under
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                                                      • thellama
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 11-27-15
                                                        • 899

                                                        #28
                                                        These Thur and Fri college games have been all chalk all the time.
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                                                        • Time is Money
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-03-07
                                                          • 2255

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by paco
                                                          Bc shutout cashes the under
                                                          Do you just run around mushing?!
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388189

                                                            #30
                                                            Would of lost again

                                                            unreal

                                                            2 teams playing
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