Cubs live game thread

**jeffchitown** · 10-10-16, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by The Giant

So. Would you guys do it differently if you could?

Don't know.... I mean we are where we are for a reason. That means every player whether they are playing well or not. They may be value we dont see at the plate he brinfs every day that could of led to where we are at. I would say if we didnt make it to the playoffs then yes id be mad at the deal. I cant be mad with our decisions right now and maybe he will turn it around.

**d2bets** · 10-10-16, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by stealthyburrito

He's a joke. Been around for 7 yrs. His ceiling is ~.270 25ish HRs and 80-85 RBI

If he produced that the Cubs would be giddy.

**slambam** · 10-10-16, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

He's been extremely disappointing at the plate this year. But there's a lot of history and he's young so it's hard to figure and it wouldn;t be surprising if he fixed it for next season. He's lost at the plate lately though.

Lol, a lot of history? The guy is a .262 career hitter.

**The Giant** · 10-10-16, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

He's like 26/27 years old, I believe. What he is this season is not what he's been before.

He's 27, this is his 7th season.

Wow! .631 OPS? I didn't realize he was that bad. That's awful.

**GRINDERCITY** · 10-10-16, 11:43 PM

hey Giant , my fellow toronto homeboy, long time

10 dimes says cleveland beats the jays , il post when i enter it tomorrow

dont fall for the hype., this is the same team that went awful down the stretch, only because the tigers/seattle and astros were SUCH LOSERS, is only reason they made it, all those 3 teams had to do was go 18-12 in the last 30 and couldnt,
martin UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE, should bat ahead of former NL MVP tulo
BJ upton is a BLIND SWINGER
michael saunders game as it relates to an ALCS level is laughable,
and the midget runt at 2nd, is startin to feel it,
JAYS cant hit good pitching, and the pen difference is too mighty
#SLIDERCITY swinging, get ready for it

**d2bets** · 10-10-16, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by slambam

Lol, a lot of history? The guy is a .262 career hitter.

That's including this season. Coming in a .270 hitter and almost .800, OPS< with gold glove. Again, Cubs would take .270 and .800 OPS.

**stealthyburrito** · 10-10-16, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

If he produced that the Cubs would be giddy.

When he came up he was touted as a 5 tool player. He's lost at least 2 of those tools somewhere

**d2bets** · 10-10-16, 11:44 PM

Joe doesn't want to stretch Chapman past 1 inning.

**d2bets** · 10-10-16, 11:45 PM

Massive 3-2 pitch upcoming to Posey....

**lakerboy** · 10-10-16, 11:45 PM

Giant I just want security

**The Giant** · 10-10-16, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by GRINDERCITY

hey Giant , my fellow toronto homeboy, long time

10 dimes says cleveland beats the jays , il post when i enter it tomorrow

dont fall for the hype., this is the same team that went awful down the stretch, only because the tigers/seattle and astros were SUCH LOSERS, is only reason they made it, all those 3 teams had to do was go 18-12 in the last 30 and couldnt,
martin UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE, should bat ahead of former NL MVP tulo
BJ upton is a BLIND SWINGER
michael saunders game as it relates to an ALCS level is laughable,
and the midget runt at 2nd, is startin to feel it,
JAYS cant hit good pitching, and the pen difference is too mighty
#SLIDERCITY swinging, get ready for it

I'm not in Toronto, but I agree with just about everything else. I think Cleveland will take down Toronto.

**jeffchitown** · 10-10-16, 11:46 PM

Hopefully this is Jason Heyward’s floor

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2016/9/16/12941390/jason-heyward-cubs-contract-defense-value

Defensive ability props up his value, but Heyward’s gotta start hitting.

Heyward’s stellar defense is still there. Among outfielders, Heyward is fifth in DRS and third in UZR.
Essentially, Heyward’s entire value is propped up by his defensive skill. Just looking at the runs added breakdown, Heyward posts an anemic -21.5 runs added offensively while supplementing it with 13 runs added defensively, putting him at 0.9 fWAR. That’s not good. But, looking at his offensive profile, it could be a lot worse (see Ramirez, Alexei or Alonso, Yonder).
Adeiny Hechavarria has essentially been Heyward in the infield. Though Hechavarria has never quite hit at all in the big leagues, he provides another extreme example of what anemic offense paired with esteemed defense does to a player’s value profile. His wOBA is sitting at .256 with a wRC+ of 56. That’s bad enough to generate a -25.8 offensive run total. However, because of the positional adjustment at shortstop and, of course, his sterling defense, he is still a positive fWAR player at 0.5. Again, not great, but it could be worse.

**lakerboy** · 10-10-16, 11:46 PM

Cubs are done

**The Giant** · 10-10-16, 11:47 PM

I'm getting scared.

**d2bets** · 10-10-16, 11:47 PM

Rondon will stay for Pence, but then I think Joe goes with Chapman early.

**d2bets** · 10-10-16, 11:48 PM

Wow, Chapman already? Full 2 inning save? Could hurt him for tomorrow if they lose. Joe going balls to the wall.

**lakerboy** · 10-10-16, 11:48 PM

No h is going to chapman

**lakerboy** · 10-10-16, 11:48 PM

No tomorrow. Cubs need to nail this. I don't like this move.

**stealthyburrito** · 10-10-16, 11:48 PM

6 out save. Wow that's demanding a lot from chapman especially since he's not starting out a clean inning.

**The Giant** · 10-10-16, 11:48 PM

Interesting move by Madden.

If he wants him to get six outs, why not start the inning with him? Lefty was leading off.

**MalikHusam** · 10-10-16, 11:48 PM

they not losing, Madison blew it

**GRINDERCITY** · 10-10-16, 11:48 PM

did u get a chance to hear mybodog uploaded phonecall, under sportsbooks and the industry i posted friday ?

**importmoon** · 10-10-16, 11:49 PM

they deserve to lose the only run produce was from the pitcher

**d2bets** · 10-10-16, 11:49 PM

The only Giant with a career hit on Chapman is Posey, who is already on base.

**CWD** · 10-10-16, 11:49 PM

cant get to tv till DWTS ends keep me posted

**MalikHusam** · 10-10-16, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by The Giant

Interesting move by Madden.

If he wants him to get six outs, why not start the inning with him? Lefty was leading off.

no decision isever perfect, at least he plays his ace before its too late unlike b.s.

**d2bets** · 10-10-16, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by The Giant

Interesting move by Madden.

If he wants him to get six outs, why not start the inning with him? Lefty was leading off.

Yeah, I hear that. He was hoping it wouldn't get to that.

**d2bets** · 10-10-16, 11:50 PM

If Chapman saves it 3-2, he's the MVP of the series.

**stealthyburrito** · 10-10-16, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by CWD

cant get to tv till DWTS ends keep me posted

**MalikHusam** · 10-10-16, 11:51 PM

time to bunt, pence

**stealthyburrito** · 10-10-16, 11:52 PM

WhY not try to sac bunt the guy over ?

**d2bets** · 10-10-16, 11:52 PM

I wanna see Chap race it to 105

**MalikHusam** · 10-10-16, 11:52 PM

how many pitches can chapman do if this goes to extras

**The Giant** · 10-10-16, 11:53 PM

Gas!

**d2bets** · 10-10-16, 11:53 PM

Pence wiped away with cheese.