Derrick Rose to the Knicks

**seaborneq** · 06-22-16, 07:36 PM

Now watch them run the triangle and try to make DRose a jump shooter. Awful for both sides. Square hole and round peg stupid

**Chi_archie** · 06-22-16, 07:40 PM

yeah neither Rose or Butler can shoot. That was a huge problem for the Bulls. They both need the ball in their hands for a large part of the possession to score.

it might be a trade that can work out for both sides. I know Bulls nation is already very very happy

**d2bets** · 06-22-16, 07:46 PM

Grant could be a good player, he came on late last year.
Lopez is serviceable and given contracts going forward, his deal is not bad.
Bulls had to unload Rose.
Knicks will probably sign Noah.

Rose, Melo and Noah. They get to see if it can work. Probably a dumpster fire.

**Chi_archie** · 06-22-16, 07:47 PM

Noah's got legs and feet of a 41 year old unfortunately.....

**BuckyOne** · 06-22-16, 07:49 PM

Change of venue and motivation might be the spark he needs? Hard to believe he would be washed up @27!

**Chi_archie** · 06-22-16, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by BuckyOne

Change of venue and motivation might be the spark he needs? Hard to believe he would be washed up @27!

its more mental than physical

but definitely physical as well.

he had the 300 million dollar body and 5 cent brain

now its like 3 million dollar body and 1 cent brain

**d2bets** · 06-22-16, 07:58 PM

He just doesn't have the lift anymore. Hard to imagine that's going to change. He's still fast. But he gets blocked so easily because he drives as if he had the lift he once had.

**lakerboy** · 06-22-16, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

He just doesn't have the lift anymore. Hard to imagine that's going to change. He's still fast. But he gets blocked so easily because he drives as if he had the lift he once had.

Sad day for you?

**d2bets** · 06-22-16, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Sad day for you?

Nah. I admit I hung on to Rose belief for too long, but I had given up in the middle of last season. Time to move on. I still think some of the criticism was unfair, but it was time to move on.

**lakerboy** · 06-22-16, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

Nah. I admit I hung on to Rose belief for too long, but I had given up in the middle of last season. Time to move on. I still think some of the criticism was unfair, but it was time to move on.

Fair enough. Time to rebuild.

**MoMoneyMoVaughn** · 06-22-16, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

He just doesn't have the lift anymore. Hard to imagine that's going to change. He's still fast. But he gets blocked so easily because he drives as if he had the lift he once had.

Fun fact. Rose's shots were actually blocked more often before his injury. In his MVP season Rose was blocked on 10% of his field goal attempts where as in the last year he was only blocked on 7%

**IBetYou** · 06-22-16, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by allabout the $$$

knicks add a former mvp who is only 27 and still have 28 million of cap space IF they can get another very good player they are playoff bound. hernangomez will replace lopez and rose is an absolute upgrade over calderon and grant. dwight howard has said he wants to come to ny i dont like him he is a cancer but if phil can get in durants ear and let him know rose contract is done after this year and the knicks will make a big push for westbrook you never know what can happen. as a knicks fan and season ticket holder we didnt give up anything for a guy who can average 15 and 5 im a very happy camper

I take it you didn't follow the ACB finals. WH didn't get on the floor for Mardid, so no he's not a starting centre in the NBA. Bright future as a PF maybe. Backup PF for now.

**lakerboy** · 06-22-16, 08:32 PM

Maybe rose can pull a Grant Hill?

**Chi_archie** · 06-22-16, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Fair enough. Time to rebuild.

problem is that Gar-Pax are not the brightest FO combo around

**allabout the $$$** · 06-22-16, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by IBetYou

I take it you didn't follow the ACB finals. WH didn't get on the floor for Mardid, so no he's not a starting centre in the NBA. Bright future as a PF maybe. Backup PF for now.

no i dont follow overseas ball just know that the knicks staff likes him

**Ratzz** · 06-22-16, 08:33 PM

nuthin' to see here

Rose = nobody.

**lonegambler23** · 06-22-16, 08:33 PM

love that trade for the bulls. all they need is another good shooter and this team is ready to battle

**lakerboy** · 06-22-16, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

problem is that Gar-Pax are not the brightest FO combo around

Braindead.

**jtoler** · 06-22-16, 08:38 PM

Why Butler get hate, I dont get it, fan here.

**jjgold** · 06-22-16, 08:48 PM

What a mess the Knicks are going to be with Rose I say he plays under 30 games

**d2bets** · 06-22-16, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

problem is that Gar-Pax are not the brightest FO combo around

They did draft Butler. And Taj. Both as late first rounders.

**WalkingLuckCharm** · 06-22-16, 08:56 PM

Not like the knicks could get any worse anyway. They really need to lose melo and rebuild around zingis

**allabout the $$$** · 06-22-16, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by WalkingLuckCharm

Not like the knicks could get any worse anyway. They really need to lose melo and rebuild around zingis

i was just gonna say this whats the worst thing that can happen for the knicks with this trade? rose gets hurt knicks get a lottery pick which they still have and 40+ mill in cap space for the 2017 FA class

**meader99** · 06-22-16, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

Grant could be a good player, he came on late last year.
Lopez is serviceable and given contracts going forward, his deal is not bad.
Bulls had to unload Rose.
Knicks will probably sign Noah.

Rose, Melo and Noah. They get to see if it can work. Probably a dumpster fire.

I would think Noah would end up in Minnesota.

**sweethook** · 06-22-16, 09:46 PM

hes useless , more waste of money

**BuckyOne** · 06-22-16, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by meader99

I would think Noah would end up in Minnesota.

I don't know if that would work - Rubio and Levine run the show - not sure they need a 7 foot guy at the top of the key? KAT is down low - don't see twin towers working. Don't get me wrong I like Noah - love watching him play - where would he fit in on offense?

**Grits n' Gravy** · 06-22-16, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by meader99

I would think Noah would end up in Minnesota.

With Garnett? Not happening.

**will2survive** · 06-22-16, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by Darkside Magick

Potential Knicks Starting 5 next season:
PG: Derrick Rose
SG: Aaron Afflalo
SF: Carmelo Anthony
PF: Kristaps Porzingis
C: Dwight Howard

Afflalo opted out ohis contract and so did Derrick Williams. 30 million free cap space. The Derrick Rose move is superb. He will be motivated and the talent is still there and better than any Knicks PG

**will2survive** · 06-22-16, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

What a mess the Knicks are going to be with Rose I say he plays under 30 games

It's not the amount of games, it's the relegation of mpg that scares me as a long suffering fan.

**will2survive** · 06-22-16, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Maybe rose can pull a Grant Hill?

Rose isn't in Hill's class. Hill would've been an all time great if he didn't get injured

**IBetYou** · 06-23-16, 06:10 AM

PJ has two agendas: cap space in '17 and appeasing anthony/ dolan/ fans. I think they'll go after Mozgov now.

**d2bets** · 06-23-16, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by will2survive

Rose isn't in Hill's class. Hill would've been an all time great if he didn't get injured

Grant Hill never won MVP. Rose was on path to be an all-time great.

**lakerboy** · 06-23-16, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by will2survive

Rose isn't in Hill's class. Hill would've been an all time great if he didn't get injured

I think rose was heading to greatness if he didn't get injured. Don't you?

**jtoler** · 06-23-16, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

I think rose was heading to greatness if he didn't get injured. Don't you?

Yes, but like Griffin in the NFL, haters never acknowledge that these players were never the same after their major injuries, they just say they suck.

**d2bets** · 06-23-16, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by jtoler

Yes, but like Griffin in the NFL, haters never acknowledge that these players were never the same after their major injuries, they just say they suck.

Griffin's stock certainly went down because of injury, but not sure I'm putting him in that category. He really only had his one rookie season. Not enough to say what might have been.

Injuries have cut short successful careers of countless athletes. Mark Prior is a good example.