1. #1
    qwertvt
    qwertvt's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 12-04-09
    Posts: 1,419
    Betpoints: 30

    PBS's "Frontline" 10 pm Eastern goes in depth into fantasy sports and online gamling

    The New York Times gave a little preview on what's to come.

    One of the many angles they explore is how one 1 reporter set up an account with BetOnline using a legitimate credit card with a phoney transaction to circumvent US law.

    I hope this thing blows over without too much noise.

    PS - Forgive the typo in the title
    Points Awarded:

    El Nino gave qwertvt 2 Betpoint(s) for this post.


  2. #2
    jjgold
    jjgold's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 388,190
    Betpoints: 10

    Werthy thanks

    Will watch

  3. #3
    El Nino
    October 2014 POTM
    El Nino's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 05-03-12
    Posts: 18,426
    Betpoints: 1868

    Set my DVR, thanks

  4. #4
    unde0087
    Did we win?
    unde0087's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 03-27-08
    Posts: 28,141
    Betpoints: 169

    Definitely going to use the hopper on that, these are always interesting to watch.

  5. #5
    VeggieDog
    VeggieDog's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 02-21-09
    Posts: 6,965
    Betpoints: 20385

    Quote Originally Posted by El Nino View Post
    Set my DVR, thanks
    Me too. Thanks

  6. #6
    mikefan1034
    mikefan1034's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-29-12
    Posts: 2,448
    Betpoints: 1233

    Thanks just dvr it

  7. #7
    qwertvt
    qwertvt's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 12-04-09
    Posts: 1,419
    Betpoints: 30

    Wow. BetOnline really looks bad in this show. They flat out claim that they were told how to get around the system with the help of BetOnline reps.

    They also spend about 15 minutes following Pinnacle.

  8. #8
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 74,849
    Betpoints: 7576

    Anything of real meat in this thing?

  9. #9

  10. #10
    jjgold
    jjgold's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 388,190
    Betpoints: 10

    not that good

    everything old news

  11. #11
    Russian Rocket
    Kleptoman
    Russian Rocket's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-02-12
    Posts: 43,910
    Betpoints: 533

    interesting stuff...thanks for sharing

  12. #12
    gauchojake
    Have Some Asthma
    gauchojake's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 09-17-10
    Posts: 33,724
    Betpoints: 13164

    If it doesn't mention SBR I'm not watching.

  13. #13
    unde0087
    Did we win?
    unde0087's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 03-27-08
    Posts: 28,141
    Betpoints: 169

    It was pretty good, although most of the show was more about the daily fantasy instead of about sportsbetting. JJ is right though this seemed out of date a bit as they didn't have much about say bitcoin, how that has changed things. But still was a pretty interesting watch.

  14. #14
    The Giant
    The Giant's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 01-21-12
    Posts: 21,480
    Betpoints: 233

    It wasn't great, wasn't horrible. Just another way to paint gambling in a bad light.

    A lot of it was discussing whether fantasy sports is gambling or not. And the loophole that was created in 2006 which has kept it from being shut down, for now anyway.

  15. #15
    Optional
    Optional's Avatar Moderator
    Join Date: 06-10-10
    Posts: 57,757
    Betpoints: 9225

    Did you see the runner in NYC called Mr Gold?

  16. #16
    unde0087
    Did we win?
    unde0087's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 03-27-08
    Posts: 28,141
    Betpoints: 169

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    It wasn't great, wasn't horrible. Just another way to paint gambling in a bad light.

    A lot of it was discussing whether fantasy sports is gambling or not. And the loophole that was created in 2006 which has kept it from being shut down, for now anyway.
    It makes me laugh when people can look at the camera and say fantasy sports isn't gambling with a straight face

  17. #17
    The Giant
    The Giant's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 01-21-12
    Posts: 21,480
    Betpoints: 233

    Quote Originally Posted by unde0087 View Post
    It makes me laugh when people can look at the camera and say fantasy sports isn't gambling with a straight face
    It's an interesting argument.

    When you take into account mostly it's the same people winning all the time, that kind of supports the skill argument.

  18. #18
    unde0087
    Did we win?
    unde0087's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 03-27-08
    Posts: 28,141
    Betpoints: 169

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    It's an interesting argument.

    When you take into account mostly it's the same people winning all the time, that kind of supports the skill argument.
    You could say the same thing about sportsbetting. At the end of the day it's the same thing to bet on if you are going to pick the right players that night or on the Knicks to cover, it's still betting money to win money.

  19. #19
    daneblazer
    Most Well Rounded POY
    daneblazer's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 09-14-08
    Posts: 27,837
    Betpoints: 5652

    Embarrassing.

  20. #20
    goduke
    goduke's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-17-10
    Posts: 11,568
    Betpoints: 2264

    it makes me laugh that as a society the stock market or investing into something that you cant control isnt called gambling though.
    Points Awarded:

    NCarts gave goduke 1 Betpoint(s) for this post.


  21. #21
    Ra77er
    Ra77er's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 06-20-11
    Posts: 10,969

    I have to say the people of Curacao are amazing. Jurrjens, Andre Simmons, Profar would be good friends to have because I don't think they would ever flip on ya.
    Nomination(s):
    This post was nominated 1 time . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: xxx

  22. #22
    MUHerd37
    Status Your Update.
    MUHerd37's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-23-09
    Posts: 12,816
    Betpoints: 10678

    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    it makes me laugh that as a society the stock market or investing into something that you cant control isnt called gambling though.
    The stock market isn't gambling. Investing does take skill. Creating a balanced portfolio takes skill.

  23. #23
    gauchojake
    Have Some Asthma
    gauchojake's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 09-17-10
    Posts: 33,724
    Betpoints: 13164

    I hear they owe a player for like 6 moths

  24. #24
    Russian Rocket
    Kleptoman
    Russian Rocket's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-02-12
    Posts: 43,910
    Betpoints: 533

    Quote Originally Posted by MUHerd37 View Post
    The stock market isn't gambling. Investing does take skill. Creating a balanced portfolio takes skill.
    Both investing and gambling takes skill if you wanna be successful. In both cases investors and gamblers look for an edge in order to help enhance their performance. The key difference between investing and gambling though is that stock investors and/or traders have a variety of options to prevent total loss of risked capital. Another difference between investing and gambling is the availability of information. That's why I always say that investing in Bitcoins is pretty similar to gambling. The BTC price bounces back and forth 10-15% for no reason and no one knows wtf is happening.

  25. #25
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 74,849
    Betpoints: 7576

    Quote Originally Posted by MUHerd37 View Post
    The stock market isn't gambling. Investing does take skill. Creating a balanced portfolio takes skill.
    I could say the same thing about the sports markets and point out many more similarities between sports investing and equities, bonds, currencies, etc.


  26. #26
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 74,849
    Betpoints: 7576

    Sometimes, in stocks, you don't know if you made a winning bet for months, or longer. In sports, you usually know within a few hours.


  27. #27
    Russian Rocket
    Kleptoman
    Russian Rocket's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-02-12
    Posts: 43,910
    Betpoints: 533

    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Sometimes, in stocks, you don't know if you made a winning bet for months, or longer. In sports, you usually know within a few hours.

    very true....you can always try to scalp the fukk out of forex on single session momentum- then you'll know within seconds/minutes if you won or not

  28. #28
    GunShard
    Invest In Ethereum And Bitcoin
    GunShard's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-05-10
    Posts: 9,983
    Betpoints: 1896

    I'm watching this on comcast cable on demand.

  29. #29
    goduke
    goduke's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-17-10
    Posts: 11,568
    Betpoints: 2264

    Quote Originally Posted by MUHerd37 View Post
    The stock market isn't gambling. Investing does take skill. Creating a balanced portfolio takes skill.
    If that's skill then sports betting and fantasy sports are skill too.

  30. #30
    goduke
    goduke's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-17-10
    Posts: 11,568
    Betpoints: 2264

    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Sometimes, in stocks, you don't know if you made a winning bet for months, or longer. In sports, you usually know within a few hours.

    Futures bets take months

  31. #31
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 74,849
    Betpoints: 7576

    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    Futures bets take months
    Of course, but that is seldom a good way to trade.


  32. #32
    GunShard
    Invest In Ethereum And Bitcoin
    GunShard's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-05-10
    Posts: 9,983
    Betpoints: 1896

    This documentary probably influenced ESPN to stop making deals with Draftkings.
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/espn-e...215455679.html

Top