PBS's "Frontline" 10 pm Eastern goes in depth into fantasy sports and online gamling

**jjgold** · 02-09-16, 01:27 PM

Werthy thanks

Will watch

**El Nino** · 02-09-16, 05:32 PM

Set my DVR, thanks

**unde0087** · 02-09-16, 06:06 PM

Definitely going to use the hopper on that, these are always interesting to watch.

**VeggieDog** · 02-09-16, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by El Nino

Set my DVR, thanks

Me too. Thanks

**mikefan1034** · 02-09-16, 06:44 PM

Thanks just dvr it

**qwertvt** · 02-10-16, 12:48 AM

Wow. BetOnline really looks bad in this show. They flat out claim that they were told how to get around the system with the help of BetOnline reps.

They also spend about 15 minutes following Pinnacle.

**KVB** · 02-10-16, 02:38 AM

Anything of real meat in this thing?

**Optional** · 02-10-16, 07:26 AM

The Fantasy Sports Gamble

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/fantasy-sports-gamble/

An investigation with The New York Times into fantasy sports and online sports betting.

**jjgold** · 02-10-16, 09:32 AM

not that good

everything old news

**Russian Rocket** · 02-10-16, 09:43 AM

Originally posted by Optional

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/fi...sports-gamble/

interesting stuff...thanks for sharing

**gauchojake** · 02-10-16, 09:52 AM

If it doesn't mention SBR I'm not watching.

**unde0087** · 02-10-16, 10:33 AM

It was pretty good, although most of the show was more about the daily fantasy instead of about sportsbetting. JJ is right though this seemed out of date a bit as they didn't have much about say bitcoin, how that has changed things. But still was a pretty interesting watch.

**The Giant** · 02-10-16, 10:43 AM

It wasn't great, wasn't horrible. Just another way to paint gambling in a bad light.

A lot of it was discussing whether fantasy sports is gambling or not. And the loophole that was created in 2006 which has kept it from being shut down, for now anyway.

**Optional** · 02-10-16, 10:43 AM

Did you see the runner in NYC called Mr Gold?

**unde0087** · 02-10-16, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by The Giant

It wasn't great, wasn't horrible. Just another way to paint gambling in a bad light.

A lot of it was discussing whether fantasy sports is gambling or not. And the loophole that was created in 2006 which has kept it from being shut down, for now anyway.

It makes me laugh when people can look at the camera and say fantasy sports isn't gambling with a straight face

**The Giant** · 02-10-16, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by unde0087

It makes me laugh when people can look at the camera and say fantasy sports isn't gambling with a straight face

It's an interesting argument.

When you take into account mostly it's the same people winning all the time, that kind of supports the skill argument.

**unde0087** · 02-10-16, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by The Giant

It's an interesting argument.

When you take into account mostly it's the same people winning all the time, that kind of supports the skill argument.

You could say the same thing about sportsbetting. At the end of the day it's the same thing to bet on if you are going to pick the right players that night or on the Knicks to cover, it's still betting money to win money.

**daneblazer** · 02-10-16, 12:47 PM

Embarrassing.

**goduke** · 02-10-16, 01:03 PM

it makes me laugh that as a society the stock market or investing into something that you cant control isnt called gambling though.

**Ra77er** · 02-10-16, 03:53 PM

I have to say the people of Curacao are amazing. Jurrjens, Andre Simmons, Profar would be good friends to have because I don't think they would ever flip on ya.

**MUHerd37** · 02-10-16, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by goduke

it makes me laugh that as a society the stock market or investing into something that you cant control isnt called gambling though.

The stock market isn't gambling. Investing does take skill. Creating a balanced portfolio takes skill.

**gauchojake** · 02-10-16, 04:29 PM

I hear they owe a player for like 6 moths

**Russian Rocket** · 02-10-16, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by MUHerd37

The stock market isn't gambling. Investing does take skill. Creating a balanced portfolio takes skill.

Both investing and gambling takes skill if you wanna be successful. In both cases investors and gamblers look for an edge in order to help enhance their performance. The key difference between investing and gambling though is that stock investors and/or traders have a variety of options to prevent total loss of risked capital. Another difference between investing and gambling is the availability of information. That's why I always say that investing in Bitcoins is pretty similar to gambling. The BTC price bounces back and forth 10-15% for no reason and no one knows wtf is happening.

**KVB** · 02-10-16, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by MUHerd37

The stock market isn't gambling. Investing does take skill. Creating a balanced portfolio takes skill.

I could say the same thing about the sports markets and point out many more similarities between sports investing and equities, bonds, currencies, etc.

**KVB** · 02-10-16, 04:36 PM

Sometimes, in stocks, you don't know if you made a winning bet for months, or longer. In sports, you usually know within a few hours.

**Russian Rocket** · 02-10-16, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by KVB

Sometimes, in stocks, you don't know if you made a winning bet for months, or longer. In sports, you usually know within a few hours.

very true....you can always try to scalp the fukk out of forex on single session momentum- then you'll know within seconds/minutes if you won or not

**GunShard** · 02-10-16, 05:23 PM

I'm watching this on comcast cable on demand.

**goduke** · 02-10-16, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by MUHerd37

The stock market isn't gambling. Investing does take skill. Creating a balanced portfolio takes skill.

If that's skill then sports betting and fantasy sports are skill too.

**goduke** · 02-10-16, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by KVB

Sometimes, in stocks, you don't know if you made a winning bet for months, or longer. In sports, you usually know within a few hours.

Futures bets take months

**KVB** · 02-10-16, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by goduke

Futures bets take months

Of course, but that is seldom a good way to trade.

**GunShard** · 02-10-16, 05:57 PM

This documentary probably influenced ESPN to stop making deals with Draftkings.

ESPN ends exclusive advertising deal with DraftKings

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/espn-ends-exclusive-draftkings-deal-215455679.html

The sports network has exited its DraftKings deal early.