This Super Bowl line is ridiculous ...

**jjgold** · 02-02-16, 05:11 PM

Carolina playing a tremendous defense and a very very experienced quarterback be careful

**MarcusPaige** · 02-02-16, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by FlipsideRM

Panthers -6 and -240 on the moneyline? This Carolina team has been underestimated all year, now all of a sudden they're getting a ton of love from the books.

can you tell me wtf is going on here? Denver +6 seems like a supreme bet. Denvers defense will keep them in the game and inexperience on Carolina will come into play here. I don't get it , would love to hear kvb/LT profits/Jj gold or some of our sharper members take. So far all I've seen is a seaweed and laker boy thread touting the Broncos which can't be good

Denver's defense can't stop Luke Kuechly from running Peyton Manning's wobbly ducks back for touchdowns.

**Jowframs** · 02-02-16, 05:21 PM

Den D Solid
Panthers will come into this Flat
That will be an advantage
Also Give Manning 2 Wk s to prepare....Dangerous

**FlipsideRM** · 02-02-16, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by MarcusPaige

Denver's defense can't stop Luke Kuechly from running Peyton Manning's wobbly ducks back for touchdowns.

I think Denver will keep it on the ground a lot and pick their spots to throw the ball. The under is the best bet imo but +6 on Denver seems crazy to me as well

**Jowframs** · 02-02-16, 05:26 PM

Under is Hard to Bet
Super Bowls always go over.....Well most of the time
45 solid as can be...Hasn't moved..IMO

**LT Profits** · 02-02-16, 05:27 PM

Only have one prop play so far, seriously doubt that I will bet a side in this game.

R. Hillman (DEN) rushing attempts OVER 11.5 +139 (Heritage)

**BigBallzz69** · 02-02-16, 05:28 PM

The dumbest part about it was it was 4 then moved to 6, like did vegas really expect people to back den?

**FlipsideRM** · 02-02-16, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by Jowframs

Under is Hard to Bet
Super Bowls always go over.....Well most of the time
45 solid as can be...Hasn't moved..IMO

When's the last time there's been 2 defenses this good in the Super Bowl? I don't know, enlighten me

**FlipsideRM** · 02-02-16, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by BigBallzz69

The dumbest part about it was it was 4 then moved to 6, like did vegas really expect people to back den?

yeah I missed the boat on Carolina moneyline -160, I went to check today and it's -240.

**shaunovery** · 02-02-16, 05:29 PM

Every post I see is about denvers defense , well carolina has in my view the best defense in the league , can't imagine manning having a big game , liking Carolina here

**FlipsideRM** · 02-02-16, 05:31 PM

I'm torn with this game. I really think Carolina wins but there's 0 value in betting them. I also think Denver keeps it under a touchdown. What's a young nikka to do

**MarcusPaige** · 02-02-16, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by Jowframs

Under is Hard to Bet
Super Bowls always go over.....Well most of the time
45 solid as can be...Hasn't moved..IMO

6 of the last 10 have gone under, but 3 of the last 4 have gone over.

**Seaweed** · 02-02-16, 05:33 PM

Carolina 20 Denver 57

**Jowframs** · 02-02-16, 05:34 PM

Iam really not sold that Panthers D is that good
Especially on the road....Maybe iam missing something
This game kinda reminds me when they came back from
a bye and had to play the Colts...Colts took them to OT
Should have pulled it off...By the way 5-3 ATS on the Road

**MarcusPaige** · 02-02-16, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by shaunovery

Every post I see is about denvers defense , well carolina has in my view the best defense in the league , can't imagine manning having a big game , liking Carolina here

Carolina's only real weakness on D is the secondary outside of Norman, and Peyton can't throw the ball 20 yards any more which pretty much negates that weakness. I am not seeing how Denver scores either.

**Jowframs** · 02-02-16, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by MarcusPaige

6 of the last 10 have gone under, but 3 of the last 4 have gone over.

Interesting....Seems lowest total in a long time...45??

**MarcusPaige** · 02-02-16, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by Jowframs

Iam really not sold that Panthers D is that good
Especially on the road....Maybe iam missing something
This game kinda reminds me when they came back from
a bye and had to play the Colts...Colts took them to OT
Should have pulled it off...By the way 5-3 ATS on the Road

Panthers blew a 17 point lead in the 4th that game. They actually blew a lot of leads late when teams actually had to throw the ball because the secondary other than Norman ain't all that. But that's not really going to be an issue with Manning and his wobbly duck passing.

**Antibet** · 02-02-16, 05:40 PM

Under/underdog parlay for both 1st half and full game. It may lose, but you just can't play anything else in this game

**Jowframs** · 02-02-16, 05:45 PM

I Think Manning has a HUGE game
Just to shut everyone up
Its no secret the Broncos had him on the bench for 6 Games to save him
For this moment.....I will LOL...If he throws a 50 yd Bomb for TD
Dont believe the hype he can't throw....At least I don't buy it

**Jowframs** · 02-02-16, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by Antibet

Under/underdog parlay for both 1st half and full game. It may lose, but you just can't play anything else in this game

Exactly....Win or Lose

**MarcusPaige** · 02-02-16, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by Jowframs

Interesting....Seems lowest total in a long time...45??

Lowest since 2011 when it was 45 for GB-Pitt. However, most of the last 10 have been 46-48 so not too much higher. 3 of the last 10 were in the 50s, the rest were 45-48.

**lakerboy** · 02-02-16, 05:47 PM

Blah blah blah.

Game tied late and Newton runs in the winning td.

Panthers win by 6 or 7.

**jjgold** · 02-02-16, 05:48 PM

flipper put $5000 on game then if you are so sure

**Jowframs** · 02-02-16, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Blah blah blah.

Game tied late and Newton runs in the winning td.

Panthers win by 6 or 7.

Yeah....He will be running Alot
From behind a Denver Lead

**BigdaddyQH** · 02-02-16, 05:49 PM

Denver has won their two playoff games by 7 (Pitt) and 2 (New England) points respectively. Carolina has won their two playoff games by 7 (Seattle) and 34 (Arizona). I dare say that Seattle is much better than Pitt, and that Arizona and New England are on an equal footing. Go one step further and you see the Broncos defeating San Diego at home 27-20 while the Panthers destroyed Tampa Bay at home 38-10. Hard to see Denver covering here. Carolina's weak link on defense is Denver's weak link on offense. That being the 20+ yard passing play. The biggest advantage Carolina has is a mobile QB.

**fishmonger** · 02-02-16, 05:50 PM

I don't think the Denver D is as great as touted. They played the NFC North when GB was in a funk and the rest of the division is trash. AFC North, they beat a Daltonless Cinncy, and lost to Roth when he was healthy, rest of that division is trash. And their own division was trash. Tread lightly on that under.

**hawk 5** · 02-02-16, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

Denver has won their two playoff games by 7 (Pitt) and 2 (New England) points respectively. Carolina has won their two playoff games by 7 (Seattle) and 34 (Arizona). I dare say that Seattle is much better than Pitt, and that Arizona and New England are on an equal footing. Go one step further and you see the Broncos defeating San Diego at home 27-20 while the Panthers destroyed Tampa Bay at home 38-10. Hard to see Denver covering here. Carolina's weak link on defense is Denver's weak link on offense. That being the 20+ yard passing play. The biggest advantage Carolina has is a mobile QB.

WOW. thats a good post. Your not always just a dickhead are u.

**Jowframs** · 02-02-16, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

Denver has won their two playoff games by 7 (Pitt) and 2 (New England) points respectively. Carolina has won their two playoff games by 7 (Seattle) and 34 (Arizona). I dare say that Seattle is much better than Pitt, and that Arizona and New England are on an equal footing. Go one step further and you see the Broncos defeating San Diego at home 27-20 while the Panthers destroyed Tampa Bay at home 38-10. Hard to see Denver covering here. Carolina's weak link on defense is Denver's weak link on offense. That being the 20+ yard passing play. The biggest advantage Carolina has is a mobile QB.

What happen against the Lousy Falcons on the Road??..they are vulnerable on the Road

**Jowframs** · 02-02-16, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by fishmonger

I don't think the Denver D is as great as touted. They played the NFC North when GB was in a funk and the rest of the division is trash. AFC North, they beat a Daltonless Cinncy, and lost to Roth when he was healthy, rest of that division is trash. And their own division was trash. Tread lightly on that over.

Den D has been injury riddled all year
How much damage can they do with a healthy Defense
They are only getting better
Kinda like that Colts Defense that ran the Table 07 SB

**MarcusPaige** · 02-02-16, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by Jowframs

What happen against the Lousy Falcons on the Road??..they are vulnerable on the Road

Pointing out their one road loss in a meaningless game doesn't mean shit. Being 7-1 on the road does not make a team vulnerable on the road. Besides, this isn't a road game, it's a neutral site game.

**Harry N. Lloyd** · 02-02-16, 06:07 PM

Boyz, it's simple. Don't over-complicate it. Put your money on the better team, pointspread be damned. That would be Carolina.

**MarcusPaige** · 02-02-16, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

Denver has won their two playoff games by 7 (Pitt) and 2 (New England) points respectively. Carolina has won their two playoff games by 7 (Seattle) and 34 (Arizona). I dare say that Seattle is much better than Pitt, and that Arizona and New England are on an equal footing. Go one step further and you see the Broncos defeating San Diego at home 27-20 while the Panthers destroyed Tampa Bay at home 38-10. Hard to see Denver covering here. Carolina's weak link on defense is Denver's weak link on offense. That being the 20+ yard passing play. The biggest advantage Carolina has is a mobile QB.

I would add to this that Carolina was up 31-0 against Seattle and played to milk the clock.

**daneblazer** · 02-02-16, 06:13 PM

Leaning Denver

**Jowframs** · 02-02-16, 06:16 PM

Back to back trips on the road
Iam surprised Sea wasn't down 50-0 in the First half