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    Quote Originally Posted by fishmonger View Post
    I don't think the Denver D is as great as touted. They played the NFC North when GB was in a funk and the rest of the division is trash. AFC North, they beat a Daltonless Cinncy, and lost to Roth when he was healthy, rest of that division is trash. And their own division was trash. Tread lightly on that under.
    green bay was undefeated when they played

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jowframs View Post
    I Think Manning has a HUGE game
    Just to shut everyone up
    Its no secret the Broncos had him on the bench for 6 Games to save him
    For this moment.....I will LOL...If he throws a 50 yd Bomb for TD
    Dont believe the hype he can't throw....At least I don't buy it
    9 TD vs. 17 int. for Peyton this year, he has no zip left. If he comes out humming the ball test him for PEDs at halftime because he hasn't thrown anything but ducks all season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusPaige View Post
    9 TD vs. 17 int. for Peyton this year, he has no zip left. If he comes out humming the ball test him for PEDs at halftime because he hasn't thrown anything but ducks all season.
    Its all in the Plan

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    NEVER BET AGAINST THE SHERRIFF IN PRIMETIME.

    Guys it's been a rule for ages. This is probably the last chance to heed this warning and make a profit off of him.

    Denver wins easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM_Toretto View Post
    NEVER BET AGAINST THE SHERRIFF IN PRIMETIME.

    Guys it's been a rule for ages. This is probably the last chance to heed this warning and make a profit off of him.

    Denver wins easily.
    Dom,
    one of the few posters that I respect and like...but totally disagree with you on this my friend...I already posted this on Pauley's thread but just in case you missed it....

    Well, I don't give a fuk what anyone says or all of the bullshit conspiracy theories that are being spewed on this thread and others, but my money is on Carolina (-5.5)...and I'm going almost all in...I've learned over the years when handicapping Superbowls, I always ask myself which team was more impressive in their respective playoff runs and who did they beat?...this formula is not complicated and has proven to be successful...carolina destroyed two legit teams in Seattle and Arizona....Denver's D is legit and finished #1 in the regular season with 283.1 yds allowed per game and Seattle was #2 right behind them at 291.8 and Arizona was #5 at 321.7...so in essence, there really isn't that much separation between those three defenses...Carolina has too many weapons on offense for Denver to slow down...Cam's running ability and the read option will negate Von Miller's and the rest of Denver's pass rush or at the very least hold it in check...I have no doubt that Carolina's defense will force at least 3 turnovers from Peyton Manning...game, set, match...Carolina wins 34 - 14 and I'm putting at least a nickel ($500) on the game....


    Net Total Yards Leaders


    RK TEAM YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G
    1 Denver 4530 283.1 3193 199.6 1337 83.6 296 18.5
    2 Seattle 4668 291.8 3364 210.3 1304 81.5 277 17.3
    3 Houston 4963 310.2 3366 210.4 1597 99.8 313 19.6
    4 NY Jets 5098 318.6 3763 235.2 1335 83.4 314 19.6
    5 Arizona 5147 321.7 3687 230.4 1460 91.3 313 19.6
    6 Carolina 5167 322.9 3752 234.5 1415 88.4 308 19.3
    7 Kansas City 5269 329.3 3698 231.1 1571 98.2 287 17.9
    8 Baltimore 5398 337.4 3737 233.6 1661 103.8 401 25.1
    9 New England 5431 339.4 3851 240.7 1580 98.8 315 19.7
    10 Tampa Bay 5446 340.4 3840 240.0 1606 100.4 417 26.1
    11 Cincinnati 5453 340.8 3976 248.5 1477 92.3 279 17.4
    12 Tennessee 5475 342.2 3678 229.9 1797 112.3 423 26.4
    13 Minnesota 5507 344.2 3759 234.9 1748 109.3 302 18.9
    14 Chicago 5527 345.4 3593 224.6 1934 120.9 397 24.8
    15 Green Bay 5547 346.7 3642 227.6 1905 119.1 323 20.2
    16 Atlanta 5562 347.6 3882 242.6 1680 105.0 345 21.6
    17 Dallas 5570 348.1 3636 227.3 1934 120.9 374 23.4
    18 Detroit 5594 349.6 3789 236.8 1805 112.8 400 25.0
    19 Buffalo 5702 356.4 3972 248.3 1730 108.1 359 22.4
    20 San Diego 5791 361.9 3786 236.6 2005 125.3 398 24.9
    21 Pittsburgh 5809 363.1 4350 271.9 1459 91.2 319 19.9
    22 Oakland 5818 363.6 4140 258.8 1678 104.9 399 24.9
    23 St. Louis 5885 367.8 4065 254.1 1820 113.8 330 20.6
    24 Jacksonville 6000 375.0 4291 268.2 1709 106.8 448 28.0
    25 Miami 6019 376.2 4000 250.0 2019 126.2 389 24.3
    26 Indianapolis 6066 379.1 4114 257.1 1952 122.0 408 25.5
    27 Cleveland 6067 379.2 4012 250.8 2055 128.4 432 27.0
    28 Washington 6090 380.6 4128 258.0 1962 122.6 379 23.7
    29 San Francisco 6199 387.4 4179 261.2 2020 126.3 387 24.2
    30 Philadelphia 6426 401.6 4273 267.1 2153 134.6 430 26.9
    31 New Orleans 6620 413.8 4544 284.0 2076 129.8 476 29.8
    32 NY Giants 6725 420.3 4783 298.9 1942 121.4 442 27.6


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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM_Toretto View Post
    NEVER BET AGAINST THE SHERRIFF IN PRIMETIME.

    Guys it's been a rule for ages. This is probably the last chance to heed this warning and make a profit off of him.

    Denver wins easily.
    Huh? When he was actually good he was still only 13-13 in the playoffs and he's 1-2 in the Super Bowl with one of the stinkiest, most pathetic performances ever.

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    Final Super Bowl Record
    Peyton Manning 2-2

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    PROPS PROPS PROPS. This is where you make your money

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusPaige View Post
    Pointing out their one road loss in a meaningless game doesn't mean shit. Being 7-1 on the road does not make a team vulnerable on the road. Besides, this isn't a road game, it's a neutral site game.
    Last time I checked the Game isnt in Carolina
    It must be on the Road!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jowframs View Post
    Last time I checked the Game isnt in Carolina
    It must be on the Road!
    Denver is 6-2 on the road so they are twice as vulnerable as Carolina.

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    Don't bet against the sheriff in prime time come on with all that does the manning factor and retirement have everyone shook or what? Let's not forget super bowl 48 where manning was absolutely destroyed 43-8 does everyone just forget that? Ask yourself does Denver have a dominate run game? No? Is manning that incredible these days to destroy Carolina? And dice them up? No he's not....Carolinas defense is no joke it's Carolina or no bet in my mind....I'm thinking some props with great odds will have me enjoying this game more....and that's the route I will go

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    Give us a winning prop Invega.

    I think Carolina wins by 2 tds, Cam is the X factor, he can beat you many different ways and we haven't see a Denver defense face a mobile qb like this. Nothing more frustrating than locking an offense down and having a qb get loose on you. Start playing up to protect, or spy, and shit starts opening up down field. Love Denver's Defense too but Carolina is a big play team and we know Denver is going to have to grind to score anything. Peyton needs to protect the ball and not turn it over, I know he wants to have a big game but if he thinks he can 'leave it all on the field' with his diminished ability, it's not going to work. He needs to do what he did his last few games and protect the ball.

    I jumped on the line early (Carolina was still playing 'Zona in fact) and will probably take a shot at one of the alt lines +12 or + 14 Carolina. I think this game is going to suck and its going to be a big letdown for those thinking it's going to be close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daneblazer View Post
    Leaning Denver

    A
    So it's true, Aliens have landed.

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    I think it's one of those games where just going by the teams I like Carolina to win by 7+ but other factors tell me to stay away (Mostly Peyton story and then the public huge on Carolina)

    I will say though that Denver does not match up well with Carolina with regards to their strengths.....Pass rushing especially speed from the outside vs. a power running team with the most mobile QB in the league. Also Carolina on defense can be beat by the big pass play and Denver with Manning just isn't that team this year.

    Denver will need to jump out early OR keep the game low scoring and ugly to have a chance....If it gets into a semi-shoot out they won't survive

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    The way the Panthers have rolled through the playoffs make them a very good choice to make a play on. Having said that wouldn't it be great for the NFL and Roger for Manning to be a hero and ride off into the sunset. I have a feeling something fuked up is going to happen to vault the Broncos to a win

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    cam is really cocky today in his interviews. Denver wins & vegas laughs

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    like the under

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jowframs View Post
    I Think Manning has a HUGE game
    Just to shut everyone up
    Its no secret the Broncos had him on the bench for 6 Games to save him
    For this moment.....I will LOL...If he throws a 50 yd Bomb for TD
    Dont believe the hype he can't throw....At least I don't buy it
    He's going deep first play from scrimmage. People's jaws will drop.

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    Madden knows all. Panthers don't cover spread.

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    Under at 441/2..5d

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaweed View Post
    Carolina 20 Denver 57
    I read half of that, then instantly regretted it after seeing Denver 57 LOL

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    Some of you can see Peyton going out on top with a championship, I see a 30 for 30 in 10 years about the Manning family and how Peyton never got his second ring. The narrative will be old verse the new and passing the torch and all that bs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pilebuck13 View Post
    Don't bet against the sheriff in prime time come on with all that does the manning factor and retirement have everyone shook or what? Let's not forget super bowl 48 where manning was absolutely destroyed 43-8 does everyone just forget that? Ask yourself does Denver have a dominate run game? No? Is manning that incredible these days to destroy Carolina? And dice them up? No he's not....Carolinas defense is no joke it's Carolina or no bet in my mind....I'm thinking some props with great odds will have me enjoying this game more....and that's the route I will go
    Elway got destroyed in his first 3 super bowls, one won his final season

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