Obama Is About To Shoot Down The Keystone Pipeline

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  • Mr KLC
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    • 12-19-07
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    #1
    Obama Is About To Shoot Down The Keystone Pipeline
    About to have a news conference to announce it within 30 minutes. Biden and Kerry will be by his side. Let the liberal smirking begin.
  • brooks85
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    • 01-05-09
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    #2
    shutdowns pipeline deal which is an obvious plus yet passes the TPP and Iran deal.


    where is rkelly so he can blame the republicans?
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    • MUHerd37
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      • 10-23-09
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      #3
      Originally posted by brooks85
      shutdowns pipeline deal which is an obvious plus yet passes the TPP and Iran deal.


      where is rkelly so he can blame the republicans?
      Spot on.
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      • KingJD31
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        • 11-04-11
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        #4
        Do people actually care about climate change?
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        • Mr KLC
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          • 12-19-07
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          #5
          This just got pushed to the front of the line as a 2016 electoral issue.
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          • pavyracer
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            • 04-12-07
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            #6
            Why do we need a pipeline? Not keeping up with the news. Please explain in less than 3 sentences.
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            • Mr KLC
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              • 12-19-07
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              #7
              Originally posted by pavyracer
              Why do we need a pipeline? Not keeping up with the news. Please explain in less than 3 sentences.
              It pretty much limits us from transporting more oil by rail by safely moving it by pipeline instead. Would formulate 40,000 temporary jobs to build it.
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              • scumbag
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                • 11-02-13
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                #8
                Originally posted by MUHerd37
                Spot on.
                spot on... if you're a penetrating idiot!



                he's doing the TPP (with the help of you penetrating oysters BTW) for corporate interests.

                he did iran because it's a better option than war (which is why you droolers reject it -- because you want war).

                the fact that you support keystone proves what an idiot you are. it's a shitty deal that only serves to enrich the koch brothers while destroying the environment. it's not a 'jobs' bill. it won't lead to 'lower gas' prices
                In Keystone’s weirdonomics, the pipeline would actually increase prices of gasoline for much of the country, according to at least three studies that have looked into it. Keystone would divert crude from Midwest refineries to Gulf Coast refineries, where it would then be shipped to more expensive markets. Bypassing heartland refineries could drive up prices at home.
                For people living in the Midwest, Great Plains and Rocky Mountains, it could add 20 cents a gallon to the price at the pump.
                There's two things we can say about the effect of the Keystone XL pipeline on gas prices. One is that it will, if built, have no effect at all upon gas prices and the other is that it might actually raise them. Which ends up being the final effect depends [...]
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                • cashmoneyholla
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 12-19-13
                  • 836

                  #9
                  This really sucks balls for Canada . We here in Alberta have all ready lost 36 000 energy jobs in the past ten months, were in very bad shape . This pipeline would have gave it s someone where to send our oil . We usually have about 400 drilling rigs going , were down to 176 today . Fuk the states

                  holla
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                  • unde0087
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                    • 03-27-08
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                    #10
                    Obama is the stupidest fuk that ever was in the white house, will his rein of stupidity ever end. Suprised he made it off the local golf course to be involved in a decision. I thought his master project of picking a CBB bracket would be too important to do anything else
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                    • ChuckyTheGoat
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                      • 04-04-11
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                      #11
                      KLC, I'll side with your opinion. Makes sense.

                      Creating 40k legitimate jobs sounds great. Oh, wait, people getting off their ass to do some manual labor? Not gonna happen.

                      What is the possible downside of this deal? Might actually cut down on govt handouts?
                      Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                      • RudyRuetigger
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                        • 08-24-10
                        • 65086

                        #12
                        who cares

                        you have x number of opinions and y number of times it comes true

                        x does not have any influence on y

                        money = y
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                        • jjgold
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                          • 07-20-05
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                          #13
                          lol

                          You guys are clowns

                          Stop worrying about shit like this

                          Get your lives in order
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                          • scumbag
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                            • 11-02-13
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                            KLC, I'll side with your opinion. Makes sense.

                            Creating 40k legitimate jobs sounds great. Oh, wait, people getting off their ass to do some manual labor? Not gonna happen.

                            What is the possible downside of this deal? Might actually cut down on govt handouts?
                            that's a lie.

                            The construction phase, though, is expected to take only one to two years. After construction, the pipeline would employ a lesser number, primarily for maintenance. The total number of long-term jobs: about 50.
                            The State Department report puts the total at 42,100 jobs, though the definition of a job in this sense is a position filled for one year. Much of the construction work would come in four- or or eight-month stretches. About 10,400 seasonal workers would be recruited for construction, the State Department said.
                            When looked at as "an average annual job," it works out to about 3,900 jobs over one year of construction or 1,950 jobs each year for two years.
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                            • Mr KLC
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                              • 12-19-07
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by scumbag
                              that's a lie.
                              If you'll look at my original post, you'll see that I said they were temporary jobs. It's no different from the "stimulus" plan Obama set forth with in his first term, except the jobs would be coming from the private sector. Employs a number of workers for a little while, and provides income tax dollars for the government.
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                              • TheSideBet
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                                • 08-05-15
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                                #16
                                Everyone saying this is more of a news story distraction to get people focused back on a senseless political fight on the same week where terrorists brought down a plane and a guy named Faisal Mohammad went on a stabbing rampage on a college campus in California.
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                                • RudyRuetigger
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                                  • 08-24-10
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by TheSideBet
                                  Everyone saying this is more of a news story distraction to get people focused back on a senseless political fight on the same week where terrorists brought down a plane and a guy named Faisal Mohammad went on a stabbing rampage on a college campus in California.
                                  yea and if people focused on a plane brought down by "isis" and "mohammad" on a campus wed have 100 conspiracy videos

                                  lets just drink instead
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                                  • scumbag
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                                    • 11-02-13
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Mr KLC
                                    If you'll look at my original post, you'll see that I said they were temporary jobs. It's no different from the "stimulus" plan Obama set forth with in his first term, except the jobs would be coming from the private sector. Employs a number of workers for a little while, and provides income tax dollars for the government.
                                    so... destroy the environment and farmers land (against their wishes) for a few thousand temp jobs and 35 permanent ones? makes sense

                                    i thought you people were against intrusive government hurting working-class people?
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                                    • brooks85
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                                      • 01-05-09
                                      • 44709

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by scumbag





                                      he did iran because it's a better option than war (which is why you droolers reject it -- because you want war).
                                      Originally posted by scumbag
                                      so... destroy the environment and farmers land (against their wishes) for a few thousand temp jobs and 35 permanent ones? makes sense

                                      i thought you people were against intrusive government hurting working-class people?
                                      damn you're a sucker. People like you remind me why sales or being a conman/politician are so lucrative. Just so penetrating stupid they don't even have to try hard to con you. It is like you want to be made a fool of over and over.
                                      Last edited by brooks85; 11-06-15, 03:37 PM.
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                                      • Winner_13
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                                        • 01-04-10
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                                        #20
                                        Guys, all the best places to live in are democrat- check my thread on it.
                                        No point arguing with republicans.
                                        They do not understand.
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                                        • KingJD31
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                                          • 11-04-11
                                          • 8167

                                          #21
                                          Like the coal industry?
                                          Originally posted by scumbag
                                          so... destroy the environment and farmers land (against their wishes) for a few thousand temp jobs and 35 permanent ones? makes sense

                                          i thought you people were against intrusive government hurting working-class people?
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                                          • RudyRuetigger
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                                            • 08-24-10
                                            • 65086

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Winner_13
                                            Guys, all the best places to live in are democrat- check my thread on it.
                                            No point arguing with republicans.
                                            They do not understand.

                                            how do you figure that??

                                            easily best places to live and be are republican



                                            or you like living in 2 bedroom house with 5 kids on welfare in nyc???
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                                            • RudyRuetigger
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                                              • 08-24-10
                                              • 65086

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                              how do you figure that??

                                              easily best places to live and be are republican



                                              or you like living in 2 bedroom house with 5 kids on welfare in nyc???
                                              i guess this is a shot at democrats but cmon no way do democrats have best housing. i think most democrats agree

                                              im not even republican though
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                                              • rkelly110
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                                                • 10-05-09
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                                                #24
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                                                • ToPHeR
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                                                  • 12-06-11
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Mr KLC
                                                  It pretty much limits us from transporting more oil by rail by safely moving it by pipeline instead. Would formulate 40,000 temporary jobs to build it.
                                                  Now let's think about this.....who owns the rail system and would be directly affected by this????
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                                                  • ToPHeR
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                                                    • 12-06-11
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by scumbag
                                                    that's a lie.
                                                    You hypocrite. You're all for spending on infrastructure improvements because they would add jobs, but then shoot down this infrastructure improvement because the jobs are only temporary? Newsflash: all construction jobs are temporary until the job finished!
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                                                    • TheSideBet
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                                                      • 08-05-15
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                      yea and if people focused on a plane brought down by "isis" and "mohammad" on a campus wed have 100 conspiracy videos

                                                      lets just drink instead
                                                      I'll drink to that. Too many great games on this weekend around the country so I hope all the pipeline people and green people can enjoy that instead of wasting too much time on the depressing news stories.
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                                                      • scumbag
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                                                        • 11-02-13
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                                                        #28
                                                        infrastructure adds to economic growth, which makes us all richer. roads and bridges need to be maintained so plenty of those jobs are basically permanent.

                                                        keystone makes the koch brothers even richer, penetrates over property owners, and wreaks havoc on the environment, all for 2k temp jobs and 35 permanent one. penetrate that!

                                                        and you droolers are supposed to be the party of 'property rights'? LOL!!!!!!!!!
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                                                        • scumbag
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                                                          #29
                                                          this proves you morons aren't principled about your party values. you clowns have moved so far right - you now openly shill for a couple of billionaires - while turning your back of core conservative beliefs.

                                                          and i'm the penetrating hypocrite? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                          Last edited by scumbag; 11-06-15, 05:42 PM.
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                                                          • RealSlimShady
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                                                            • 12-24-07
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                                            lol

                                                            You guys are clowns

                                                            Stop worrying about shit like this

                                                            Get your lives in order


                                                            Is this why you are called the coach?
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                                                            • EmpireMaker
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                                                              • 06-18-09
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by ToPHeR
                                                              You hypocrite. You're all for spending on infrastructure improvements because they would add jobs, but then shoot down this infrastructure improvement because the jobs are only temporary? Newsflash: all construction jobs are temporary until the job finished!
                                                              This is not an infrastructure improvement at all, it is basically a cash grab for the Koch bros. The jobs are temporary, the pipeline contributes nothing to the US economy (aside from the temp jobs). The pipeline only benefits the companies shipping oil from Canada to the gulf.
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                                                              • rkelly110
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                                                                • 10-05-09
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                                                                #32
                                                                Panties in a bunch up in here.

                                                                How about eminent domain? Would you want a pipeline in your front yard against your will?

                                                                How about the pipeline going over water a few states use? What if there's a leak, who cleans it up? Not Canada.
                                                                Not the oil companies. Local authorities will.

                                                                That oil is thick nasty shit. The pipeline will have to be heated to keep it flowing. Ever see an overhead shot of where
                                                                they are getting the oil? Deforested, flat, nasty shit everywhere. The sands are thousands of square miles.

                                                                Jobs? More jobs would be had, for a longer period if it goes by rail and by truck.

                                                                Bring our prices down? Think again, we will not be using the by product. Foreigners will.

                                                                Have no worries though, your next asshat Pres will put it through.
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                                                                • cashmoneyholla
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 12-19-13
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Rkelly shut your mouth or think before you speak at least . I live where the oil sands are . There is only a few mines that do above ground oilseeds projects . 95% of the oil sands is drilled for . No deforestation needed dumb ass . Please do research first .

                                                                  Holla
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                                                                  • lakerboy
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                                                                    • 04-02-09
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    america has 300 million people. 90% of them are useless and worthless.
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                                                                    • eidolon
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by scumbag
                                                                      so... destroy the environment and farmers land (against their wishes) for a few thousand temp jobs and 35 permanent ones? makes sense

                                                                      i thought you people were against intrusive government hurting working-class people?
                                                                      You are too deep into the koolaid to have a sensible conversation with.
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