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    I like Webb the best-but he he ain't going no where and we all know this.
    I like Webb because of his military background and his military ideas which have the most credibility, which I think would be the best for what a President needs to do-but he's not getting in.
    Also, Webb is not easy on the ears-worst public speaker out of the field.


    It amazes me that the more Hilary speaks, the dumber she sounds, and I can't understand for the life of me why the hell is she about to get elected.
    She is clearly saying anything to get elected.

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    Trump was pretty funny about the debate- easily agreeable that he was more entertaining to read then the actual debate.


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    My personal favorite

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosigga View Post
    Bernie by far more than anyone else on either side
    You can agree or disagree with his politics, but yes, he is the only candidate on either side that is clearly in it for the greater good.

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    You know what's weird? After the republican debates there were several online polls at the top of the page of a google search where you could vote and see who won the debate....I could only find two this time.....Time Magazine and Slate who both had Bernie Sanders and the winner by a landslide. Yet, all the articles with commentary have pundits declaring Hillary the winner. I don't like conspiracies but damn, it really seems like the establishment is afraid of old Bernie.

    Edit: drudge poll has Bernie as winner by a large margin as well. All online polls have Bernie as winner, but all articles declare Hillary the winner!
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    Quote Originally Posted by darrell74 View Post

















    Typical of the right and Fukked up news.....bash, make fun of and twist around words.

    Fair and balanced.......

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    Hillary did shine

    Fuk

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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    I'm not sure what the point of all these debates are. Its pretty obvious by the gambling lines its going to be hillary vs jeb. can we just skip to that and stop wasting time
    Yes, like Im sure it was pretty obvious by the line Sooners would roll Texas, things fall apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Hillary did shine

    Fuk
    she had a glow about her..... must've gotten some "kahk" earlier in the day.....

    and in this sentence, I am defining "kahk" as the bigger rubber dick attached to her lesbian lover's strap-on harness

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    The old white people party

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    Did Hillary odds go up or down after debate ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    Yes, like Im sure it was pretty obvious by the line Sooners would roll Texas, things fall apart.
    "Politics ain't football."
    -John Madden

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    everyone clapping after nutjob sanders made the clinton comment is what stood out the most last night; a lot of sheep out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrell74 View Post
    I like Webb the best-but he he ain't going no where and we all know this.
    I like Webb because of his military background and his military ideas which have the most credibility, which I think would be the best for what a President needs to do-but he's not getting in.
    Also, Webb is not easy on the ears-worst public speaker out of the field.


    It amazes me that the more Hilary speaks, the dumber she sounds, and I can't understand for the life of me why the hell is she about to get elected.
    She is clearly saying anything to get elected.
    I agree completely,
    A real patriot, Annnapolis graduate, Viet war hero, award winning author,
    Secretary of the Navy under Reagan, Webb's accomplishments are many & varied.
    Cooper didn't give him the time necessary to introduce himself to the public & that's a shame as he
    could offer the country more than the others at the podiums today.
    But I was encouraged by the overnight unscientific polls:
    Drudge 'who won the debate poll'

    Sanders 55%
    Webb 25%
    Clinton 10%
    O'Malley 7%
    Chafee 4%

    11 million viewers highest for any Democrat debate ever. Lees than half who
    viewed CNN Republican debate

    Time Debate Poll:


    Hillary Clinton came into the debate needing to assuage nervous supporters surprised by the strength of Bernie Sanders’ challenge. Sanders came into the night needing to build on his momentum. And underdogs Martin O’Malley, Jim Webb and Lincoln Chafee needed to introduce themselves on a national stage for the first time. Vote for who you think won the debate.



    The 5 Democratic presidential candidates took to the stage for a debate Tuesday night. Who do you think won?

    Jim Webb
    33 %
    Bernie Sanders
    54 %
    Hillary Clinton
    11 %
    Lincoln Chafee
    1 %
    Martin O'Malley
    2 %

    It looks like Jim Webb may get a slight
    bump like I was hoping for. I bet he seperates
    himself from the 1 or 2 percenters O'Malley
    & Chaffee in the next legit poll & hope he can rise from there.
    I'm a Republican & for Trump all the way but Webb is ahead of
    every other candidate of either party in my mind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 15805 View Post
    I agree completely,
    A real patriot, Annnapolis graduate, Viet war hero, award winning author,
    Secretary of the Navy under Reagan, Webb's accomplishments are many & varied.
    Cooper didn't give him the time necessary to introduce himself to the public & that's a shame as he
    could offer the country more than the others at the podiums today.
    But I was encouraged by the overnight unscientific polls:
    Drudge 'who won the debate poll'

    Sanders 55%
    Webb 25%
    Clinton 10%
    O'Malley 7%
    Chafee 4%

    11 million viewers highest for any Democrat debate ever. Lees than half who
    viewed CNN Republican debate

    Time Debate Poll:


    Hillary Clinton came into the debate needing to assuage nervous supporters surprised by the strength of Bernie Sanders’ challenge. Sanders came into the night needing to build on his momentum. And underdogs Martin O’Malley, Jim Webb and Lincoln Chafee needed to introduce themselves on a national stage for the first time. Vote for who you think won the debate.



    The 5 Democratic presidential candidates took to the stage for a debate Tuesday night. Who do you think won?

    Jim Webb
    33 %
    Bernie Sanders
    54 %
    Hillary Clinton
    11 %
    Lincoln Chafee
    1 %
    Martin O'Malley
    2 %

    It looks like Jim Webb may get a slight
    bump like I was hoping for. I bet he seperates
    himself from the 1 or 2 percenters O'Malley
    & Chaffee in the next legit poll & hope he can rise from there.
    I'm a Republican & for Trump all the way but Webb is ahead of
    every other candidate of either party in my mind!
    Unfortunately it doesn't much matter how qualified Senator Webb is or what the quality of his character is. He completely embarrassed himself in that debate. First and foremost you have to have an electable persona/presence. Continually whining about getting your turn in a debate and then, when you finally get the floor, you waste more time on debate rules. Just wow please get the guy a better coach. The whole thing just made him come off as weak.

    I'm not saying he's a weak man by any means but this is a democratic election. Perception is reality. There is a more powerful way to handle such a situation.

    That said A Cooper obv had an agenda.

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    Just don't see how a Democratic nominee loses to any republican. Load up at Pinnacle on a Dem to win imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    Just don't see how a Democratic nominee loses to any republican. Load up at Pinnacle on a Dem to win imo.

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    Many experts agree with you canuck the Democratic Party is a lock to win

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    but honestly who has a fighting chance? that's what makes me laugh.

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    They're all just clowns America is so washed up it's not even funny

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    When i comes to politics, there are NO experts. In February, the FBI report will be released acknowledging Clinton broke the law a number of times, along with some of her underlings. This will destroy her chances to be president. Then, when you consider Sanders, except for the extreme west coast and youngsters, he won't gather any other votes as it becomes more known that he's a socialist extreme- when people understand it better- NO CHANCE to win. I don't know which repubican will win, but it will be one of them. The repub's at +120 are a great bet right now as the odds continue to drop every month or two. By next year, it will be even or a slight favorite as we get closer.

    The policies they were promising last night, i.e. free college for everyone and Obamacare for illegals, would add approx. $18 trillion more to the debt over 10 years. We'd become Greece.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    but honestly who has a fighting chance? that's what makes me laugh.
    20 Trillion debt when Obama leaves (more than every president in history before him COMBINED!)
    15 million more on food stamps
    15 million more living in poverty
    healthcare set for a 40% increase next year
    Median income down $5000 per year since Obama took office.


    Dems have no quality candidates. What can they possible run on? Did you listen to their answers? They can't run on Obama's record and if they criticize Obama's failed presidency, then they lose also.

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    ^
    Correct

    However, Democrats might pull off some crazy bullshit to get into the white house

    Remember, Obama had the highest unemployment rate and biggest recession since the Great Depression of the 1930's, and still got re-elected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    20 Trillion debt when Obama leaves (more than every president in history before him COMBINED!)
    15 million more on food stamps
    15 million more living in poverty
    healthcare set for a 40% increase next year
    Median income down $5000 per year since Obama took office.


    Dems have no quality candidates. What can they possible run on? Did you listen to their answers? They can't run on Obama's record and if they criticize Obama's failed presidency, then they lose also.
    Which president has reduced the national debt? Didn't Bush leave Obama with 10 trillion in debt? Really doesn't matter what the numbers are when voters in America are leaning towards Dems more and more. Clinton will win and while I don't think she's the best choice you only have the Republicans to blame for not putting up a worthy opponent. Just like when people thought Obama would lose vs Romney....just ain't happening. And as these geezers who vote for the Repubs die off they're going to lose more and more votes and the younger adults who are all about twitter and instagram and reddit who are all pro bernie (fight the power) and hate republicans will make it easy $$$$ to bet on the democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatddy View Post
    Unfortunately it doesn't much matter how qualified Senator Webb is or what the quality of his character is. He completely embarrassed himself in that debate. First and foremost you have to have an electable persona/presence. Continually whining about getting your turn in a debate and then, when you finally get the floor, you waste more time on debate rules. Just wow please get the guy a better coach. The whole thing just made him come off as weak.

    I'm not saying he's a weak man by any means but this is a democratic election. Perception is reality. There is a more powerful way to handle such a situation.

    That said A Cooper obv had an agenda.

    Not so fast, Carson whined about exactly the same things in the last Republican debate and it didn't hurt.
    What I was surprised about was the reaponse for Webb in the Drudge & Time instant polling, though unscientific
    they are not to be dismissed. After the 2nd Repubican debate all the beltway Republicans couldn't wait to
    proclaim Trumps downfall from a poor performance yet he received over 50% as the winner in instant polls
    both Time & Drudge & low and behold he's still polling 1st in every state; in those same instant polls Fiorina
    who i think is a terrible cadidate came in 2nd with around 19% & she did rise in the polls.
    Personally I didn't think Webb received enough air time to warrant a 2nd place finish but some saw something
    that elevated him far above the 1% group which he was a part of before the debate with O'Malley & Chaffee.
    I think the instant polling reveals when the real scientific polls come out Webb will receive a nice bump & will
    be more vigorous in his presentation at the next affair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Did Hillary odds go up or down after debate ?
    It went up because now it's clear Bernie has no actual intention on winning the primaries, pretty much just cozying up to Hillary. He's probably on their payroll.

    Biden loses huge for not getting involved. He was banking on Hill tanking. You snooze, you lose.

    Meanwhile Hillary the idiot is toast - dark web has every communique she hid from the government and Assange's partner has been telling everyone who'll listen "when the time is right, we're dumping the documents and when we do - she is done".

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    Which president has reduced the national debt? Didn't Bush leave Obama with 10 trillion in debt?
    so? is that some kind of excuse or what is it exactly?

    He also is leaving behind over 15 million more on food stamps, more than 15 million more in poverty, less money for families to spend, the largest tax hike on the middle class ever and yes 10 TRILLION more debt which someone will be left with. Change? Forward? More like No-Change and Backwards. Under Obama, the dems lost the house and senate as recently as last year. The tide is swinging away from dems and their failed policies. Less and less are buying their lies.

    Trump will eat alive whoever becomes the Dem candidate. They have no chance.

    Biggest winner last night Was Donald Trump.

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    Odds and polls say differently Dwight. Past performance won't have much effect once they see who the Repub nominee is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    Odds and polls say differently Dwight. Past performance won't have much effect once they see who the Repub nominee is.
    I agree. People aren't that smart politically. So many will stick with one party their entire lives no matter how bad they are. They will criticize the other guy at every turn and make excuses for their guy even if he does the same thing as the other guy did that they criticized initially. LOL.

    The independants always decide the elections. Dems have no chance in 2016.

    The dems talked last night about how the middle class isn't doing well for years now. Hello????? Who's been in power for several years now? LMFAO!


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    Dwight you know Harper also doesn't have much of a chance either now. Looks like Trudeau is storming in. He's ran a brilliant campaign. I honestly leaned towards NDP for awhile but Muclair has come off like a moron lately. You do like the underdogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    Odds and polls say differently Dwight. Past performance won't have much effect once they see who the Repub nominee is.
    Its a long way to go I know


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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    Dwight you know Harper also doesn't have much of a chance either now. Looks like Trudeau is storming in. He's ran a brilliant campaign. I honestly leaned towards NDP for awhile but Muclair has come off like a moron lately. You do like the underdogs.
    Yes it looks like Canadians are gonna make a huge mistake. I am hoping common sense comes through Monday. Trudeau is a fool and only drunk people would ever vote NDP. Harper is doing a fine job.

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