Joe Mauer- the most obvious case of steroid use ever?

**jjgold** · 04-25-15, 07:02 PM

It's almost every major league baseball player once he gets a big contract he cannot hit any more

**pattymayo** · 04-25-15, 07:03 PM

so he used steroids for just that 2009 season?

**existential** · 04-25-15, 07:04 PM

brady anderson was another classic one

**Big Bear** · 04-25-15, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by existential

brady anderson was another classic one

this.

guy hit 50 in one year

btw they say Brady Anderson loves to go water skiing in Lake Tahoe in the winter

that water must be frigid

**EaglesPhan36** · 04-25-15, 07:09 PM

Barry Bonds. The defense rests its case again. Brady Anderson for sure though.

**CMNoney** · 04-25-15, 07:11 PM

Originally posted by pattymayo

so he used steroids for just that 2009 season?

2009: 523 AB's- 28 HR's
Since 2009: 2310 AB's- 37 HR's

**pattymayo** · 04-25-15, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by CMNoney

2009: 523 AB's- 28 HR's
Since 2009: 2310 AB's- 37 HR's

lol, wow big deal. Look at Brady Anderon's surge, or Bonds, like mentioned. Hell a case for Jose Bautista would be stronger than Mauer

**CMNoney** · 04-25-15, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by pattymayo

lol, wow big deal. Look at Brady Anderon's surge, or Bonds, like mentioned. Hell a case for Jose Bautista would be stronger than Mauer

You're not good at math, are you?

**jjgold** · 04-25-15, 07:27 PM

MLB= Failed high priced players

**pavyracer** · 04-25-15, 07:34 PM

It will be interesting in the 2020 decade when all steroid users of the last 20 years start having heart attacks and dying. Lots of funerals on the horizon.

**jt315** · 04-25-15, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by existential

brady anderson was another classic one

I'll agree to this and add Brett Boone.

**klemopixx** · 04-25-15, 08:34 PM

Ryan Howard. Actually he just got fat and everyone finally figured out he can't hit a breaking ball and can't hit to left field to save his life. If he could bunt to the third base bag he could actually walk to first every at bat, but big boy can't figure that out.

**TheMoneyShot** · 04-25-15, 08:39 PM

2008-09 Steroids and HGH and Pro Hormones.... you could get them anywhere. Wouldn't doubt it. People still don't understand that Steroids also make you a better contact hitter.

**sourtwist** · 04-25-15, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

It will be interesting in the 2020 decade when all steroid users of the last 20 years start having heart attacks and dying. Lots of funerals on the horizon.

Extremely ignorant statement, but expected from you.

Anyone who properly uses HGH or steroids properly will not suffer the consequences you speak of.

Steroid use does not = steroid abuse.

**stealthyburrito** · 04-25-15, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by existential

brady anderson was another classic one

And he was the leadoff hitter

**BuckyOne** · 04-25-15, 08:46 PM

I have to vote no. But, I am a Twins fan. Some stars don't shine bright for very long. Morneau was a really good Twin until the conscussions then he was never the same. Mauer has had a bunch of injuries. When you watch him - he hits a lot of nice line drives - just not home run distance. I think he hits the way you should hit - go for a nice base hit every time. If he swings for home runs - would his average drop about 50 points?

**eidolon** · 04-25-15, 08:49 PM

Can you do a AB/HR for Pujols?

Originally posted by CMNoney

He has currently gone 53 straight games (going back to last year) without a HR.

His 2009 season is starting to stick out like a sore thumb. Mauer should thank his lucky stars he is playing in Minnesota. Could you imagine if this putz was in NY or Boston?

AB per HR:
2005 - 54.3
2006 - 40.1
2007 - 58.0
2008 - 59.6
2009 - 18.7 CONTRACT YEAR
2010 - 56.7
2011 - 98.7
2012 - 54.5
2013 - 40.5
2014 - 113.8

**etothep** · 04-25-15, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by eidolon

Can you do a AB/HR for Pujols?

2001 - 15.9
2002 - 17.4
2003 - 13.7
2004 - 12.9
2005 - 14.4
2006 - 10.9
2007 - 17.7
2008 - 14.2
2009 - 12.1
2010 - 14.0
2011 - 15.6
2012 - 20.2 (1st year as Angel)
2013 - 23.0
2014 - 22.6

**CMNoney** · 04-25-15, 09:57 PM

Originally posted by etothep

2001 - 15.9
2002 - 17.4
2003 - 13.7
2004 - 12.9
2005 - 14.4
2006 - 10.9
2007 - 17.7
2008 - 14.2
2009 - 12.1
2010 - 14.0
2011 - 15.6
2012 - 20.2 (1st year as Angel)
2013 - 23.0
2014 - 22.6

See, not even close to as drastic as Mauer's.

I don't think people realize just how pathetic Mauer is as a hitter now. Last year he was deplorable and this year he is dreadful. He doesn't even hit .300 anymore, let alone .330. And forget HR's, he can't even hit doubles. He has 2 extra base hits all year. His OBP is 100 points higher than his SLG %.

He was without a doubt on something in 2009.

**manny24** · 04-25-15, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by sourtwist

Extremely ignorant statement, but expected from you.

Anyone who properly uses HGH or steroids properly will not suffer the consequences you speak of.

Steroid use does not = steroid abuse.

Twister can you still get norandro?

asking for a friend

thanks

**sourtwist** · 04-25-15, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by manny24

Twister can you still get norandro?

asking for a friend

thanks

I have everything..... Deca, tren, dbol, test, etc... Lmk

**El Nino** · 04-25-15, 10:23 PM

Yeah, right. Catcher's legs go.

**manny24** · 04-25-15, 10:31 PM

Pujols numbers are amazing holy balls

**Da Manster!** · 04-25-15, 10:35 PM

most obvious use of steroids case ever are the a$$holes who started the whole damn era!...the mount rushmore of steroid users!....Canseco, McGuire, Sosa, and Bonds!...

**stevenash** · 04-25-15, 10:38 PM

So Mauer's brain injuries have nothing to do with it?
Mauer doesn't see right anymore. He has mood swings because of concussions, etc. etc. etc.

But let's just ignore the fact that Mauer has a damaged brain, let's just blame it on steroids and ignore the facts.

OP is an idiot.

Do some research next time before passing judgement.

**BigDofBA** · 04-25-15, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

It will be interesting in the 2020 decade when all steroid users of the last 20 years start having heart attacks and dying. Lots of funerals on the horizon.

That won't happen. They aren't that bad for you.

The general public that sits on their ass eating McDonalds and smoking cigarettes is just uniformed.

All the the fast food and processed shit people eat today is way worse than steroids. The side effects are minimal. In the 80s the FDA recommended that they not be a controlled substance.

Why aren't profeesional bodybuilders dropping dead? How are Arnold and Stallone still living?

Professional wrestlers die but that's because must of those guys use hardcore recreational drugs like cocaine. It's not the roids.

Where is the evidence that steroids kill people? McGwire, Bonds, Bagwell, Clemens, Canseco, etc are all living healthy lives.

**stevenash** · 04-25-15, 10:44 PM

Just look at Mauer's medical history since 2010.
Concussions, contusions, knee, head, neck, back.

But let's just ignore the facts, just lump him in with other juicers.

F'n assholes here have no idea what they are talking about.

**BigDofBA** · 04-25-15, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

Just look at Mauer's medical history since 2010.
Concussions, contusions, knee, head, neck, back.

But let's just ignore the facts, just lump him in with other juicers.

F'n assholes here have no idea what they are talking about.

I can almost guarantee Maurer didn't juice and I am pretty knowledgable on the topic.

If anything, roids would have aided in recovery so he would have came back quicker.

People don't know wtf they are talking about.

The same people that think people that juicers are going to drop dead are are probably sitting on their fat assea downing a Big Mac, coke, and French fries.

Brady Anderson
Javier Lopez
Brett Boone
Jason Giambi
Luis Gonzalez
Jason Giambi
Canseco
Pudge
McGwire
Clemens
Etc

Not Mauer morons.

**jjgold** · 04-25-15, 10:50 PM

Mauer might've peaked and now on a decline you just don't know

**Slanina** · 04-25-15, 10:56 PM

Lets get the same stats on players that were proven to use. Like Canseco. Interested to see a side-by-side from proven to suspicious players.

**eidolon** · 04-25-15, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by Da Manster!

most obvious use of steroids case ever are the a$$holes who started the whole damn era!...the mount rushmore of steroid users!....Canseco, McGuire, Sosa, and Bonds!...

steroids were around long before those 4.

**Da Manster!** · 04-25-15, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by eidolon

steroids were around long before those 4.

alright Eidolon...I guess I have to draw you a picture...I meant to say that they were the first baseball players that started using them on a regular basis to enhance their stats, production, etc.

**stevenash** · 04-25-15, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by BigDofBA

I can almost guarantee Maurer didn't juice and I am pretty knowledgable on the topic.

If anything, roids would have aided in recovery so he would have came back quicker.

People don't know wtf they are talking about.

The same people that think people that juicers are going to drop dead are are probably sitting on their fat assea downing a Big Mac, coke, and French fries.

Brady Anderson
Javier Lopez
Brett Boone
Jason Giambi
Luis Gonzalez
Jason Giambi
Canseco
Pudge
McGwire
Clemens
Etc

Not Mauer morons.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Quit now.

**CMNoney** · 04-25-15, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

So Mauer's brain injuries have nothing to do with it?
Mauer doesn't see right anymore. He has mood swings because of concussions, etc. etc. etc.

But let's just ignore the fact that Mauer has a damaged brain, let's just blame it on steroids and ignore the facts.

OP is an idiot.

Do some research next time before passing judgement.

Do some research? I live in Minnesota and I am a Twins fan.

I guarantee I know more about Mauer than you do.

Biggest ego on the board. You think you know everything about everything. Absolutely hilarious.