Rate HR Wager????????????

**jjgold** · 07-16-13, 05:59 AM

Well I see mixed reaction, the bonus thing is alluring for those type of players. I guess if you have to take risk if you want bonuses like this. The opinated numbers are fine as long as it is not every game. Proceed with caution on this book.,

**djefferis** · 07-16-13, 09:39 AM

Opinionated lines..espc. in favor of MLB dogs the last month.

Not afraid to break from the pack in offering a line 8-12 cents better than anyone else.

Betting those got me shown the door within 2 months..but George paid, paid quickly and welcomed me back come football.

250 limit sucks, but many have said will bump it if your not beatin week in and week out.

RW remains the #1 under rated book, but George is ok guy. Fine if you need a 3rd out for bases and dont bet more than a nickle.

**Fishhead** · 07-16-13, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by Slimpickens

No serious player would post up there IMO.

Well, I know four very serious players that play there, including myself.

**Fishhead** · 07-16-13, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by konck

They never learn

Been playing offshore nearly 20 years now and at over 200 offshore casinos/sportsbooks making boat loads of cash, stiffed only once, what haven't I learned?.....................having said that, many of the books played at eventually went under and a few ended up stiffing players, timing is the key.

**jjgold** · 07-16-13, 11:33 AM

My policy on books like this is $500 tops post up and see how it goes, I do not read any negatives, the choices for usa players is not that great other than the big 4 or so and then some generic books like betus and sportsbook, do not know if I am ready to pull trigger yet.

**Slimpickens** · 07-16-13, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Well, I know four very serious players that play there, including myself.

Guess I should have said no non recreational player would play there. Why would someone who actually plans on cashing out play at a place that isnt even rated here? Im sure its great for deposit only players.

**ronald** · 07-16-13, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by Slimpickens

Guess I should have said no non recreational player would play there. Why would someone who actually plans on cashing out play at a place that isnt even rated here? Im sure its great for deposit only players.

Since when do the ratings here mean anything?

**Fishhead** · 07-16-13, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

My policy on books like this is $500 tops post up and see how it goes, I do not read any negatives, the choices for usa players is not that great other than the big 4 or so and then some generic books like betus and sportsbook, do not know if I am ready to pull trigger yet.

Terrible advice, just horrible.

**jjgold** · 07-16-13, 12:27 PM

I will have a ratings sheet soon

**Slimpickens** · 07-16-13, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by ronald

Since when do the ratings here mean anything?

True but the fact that they arent even rated at all is telling me all I need to know.

**jjgold** · 07-16-13, 12:57 PM

I have no idea if every book in world is rated at sbr, I am sure many fall through the cracks and others not up to date, its impossible to really give smaller books a rating.

**roanildinho** · 07-16-13, 01:28 PM

why dont you use bitcoin books...bettter than sportsbook.com wayyy better

**touchback** · 07-16-13, 01:44 PM

I would give George a shot up to a nickel... and the service has value to pull $300 to $500 out of it a month if you want to do the work. I would not try to pull more or risk being shown the door while he tries to establish a customer base. 20 cent lines are a bit tuff but juice does not apply if you win and they are also a good arb choice I think going into football with 10 cent lines and a fat bonus.

**BigDaddy** · 07-16-13, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by Slimpickens

True but the fact that they arent even rated at all is telling me all I need to know.

??

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbooks/

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/hrwager/news/

**Slimpickens** · 07-16-13, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by BigDaddy

??

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbooks/

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/hrwager/news/

Oh thanks. When I came across hrwager about a month ago they were not listed here. Im still not gonna send them a penny though.

**jjgold** · 07-16-13, 03:06 PM

I would say maybe +140 if this book is around after january, look for warning signs..bad customer supports, slow pays, real bad enticing lines

as of now $500 or below deposit type book

**Bluehorseshoe** · 07-16-13, 03:47 PM

Post up book using Bet Eagle software.

Ok......

**Fishhead** · 07-16-13, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

I would say maybe +140 if this book is around after january, look for warning signs..bad customer supports, slow pays, real bad enticing lines

as of now $500 or below deposit type book

Decent line................................anyb ody with a decent BR right and that has decided to send funds here is sending more than $500, these individuals want to take full advantage of the bonuses being presented.......................if one cannot afford to send more than $500, don't even waste your time with this book. Once August arrives, risk will rise with HRWAGER in terms of reward/risk ratio.

**touchback** · 07-16-13, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Decent line................................anyb ody with a decent BR right and that has decided to send funds here is sending more than $500, these individuals want to take full advantage of the bonuses being presented.......................if one cannot afford to send more than $500, don't even waste your time with this book. Once August arrives, risk will rise with HRWAGER in terms of reward/risk ratio.

FISH... are you arbing/scalping or going for a withdrawal. I am guessing arb/scalp... just seems like all the variables for this place make this the angle.

**touchback** · 07-16-13, 06:15 PM

PS... cannot edit my post. At least that is what I would do for the max dime deposit and bonus...

**jjgold** · 07-16-13, 06:19 PM

Here is the problem with these books offering weak lines on some games..if the weak number is winning the book will be in trouble.

It happened at Betislands

**Smoke** · 07-16-13, 06:23 PM

Betislands was ran by a former sbr poster who had tatts all over his body.

**jjgold** · 07-16-13, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by Smoke

Betislands was ran by a former sbr poster who had tatts all over his body.

Some think he was just an agent.............agents responsible for money

**minet123** · 07-16-13, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Here is the problem with these books offering weak lines on some games..if the weak number is winning the book will be in trouble.

It happened at Betislands

If a book this TIME OF YEAR hangs a weak number on ONE game and that number covers and said book is now in trouble
you should have never sent them a cent in the first place
it's two months to Football/baseball playoffs
save your cash and send to
CRIS
Pinnacle
SBO
12 Bet
5 dimes/heritage/Blackies

**Fishhead** · 07-16-13, 06:45 PM

If one is simply a REC player, avoid................................SIM PLE

**Slimpickens** · 07-16-13, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

If one is simply a REC player, avoid................................SIM PLE

huh?

**jjgold** · 07-16-13, 06:54 PM

books posting weak lines are gambling and books that gamble go bust

**trytrytry** · 07-16-13, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

I would say maybe +140 if this book is around after january, look for warning signs..bad customer supports, slow pays, real bad enticing lines

as of now $500 or below deposit type book

id estimate more like -800 book is here in January.

**touchback** · 07-16-13, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by Slimpickens

huh?

Slim... look at my post. A pro angle... not looking to withdrawal unlike a recreational player trying to get a payout. That's the value at this place right now...

**Slimpickens** · 07-16-13, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by touchback

Slim... look at my post. A pro angle... not looking to withdrawal unlike a recreational player trying to get a payout. That's the value at this place right now...

I will give the sane huh? LOL. But whatever I dont care nor do I wanna argue about it. I wouldnt send these people a nickel if I found it on the street. Just too many more prooven options. If they are still around about a year from now might consider it.

**dark star** · 07-16-13, 07:28 PM

Decent out

**jjgold** · 07-16-13, 07:30 PM

Why do all these books claim they had been around for 10 or more years?

**touchback** · 07-16-13, 07:31 PM

OK... deposit a dime get 100% freeplay and 15% cash... roll is like 10x. Freeplay is an auto lose on principle so the juice does not matter. So what do you do with it. Scalp or arb it to another funded out that has the tolerance for the winning action and will pay. So fund your withdrawal out with no bonus and no rollover requirements and pick losers as much as possible at the bonus shop and winners at the withdrawal out. You should be able to move the whole balance within 2 to 3 rolls if you shop your lines and have any skill or luck. You end up with your whole balance at the withdrawal out with no additional rollover or requirements and can get a payout whenever you want. It is even better to spread this around a couple withdrawal outs so no particular one gets hit to hard or has an excessive win history which can get you limited or kicked out. Also, since you are arbing or scalping the action will not consistently look sharp because it has more to do with shopping the opposite correlating line and not necessarily sharp action or steam moves. A perfect situation would be a lower tier out that offered 150% to 200% freeplay bonus and who cares what the rollover is... 20x, 25x, even 30x... it does not matter because you are not going to keep the balance in long enough to even think about it... or it make have to put in so much action that you eventually bust out or get eaten up by the VIG. Understand now???

**minet123** · 07-16-13, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Why do all these books claim they had been around for 10 or more years?

2nd shift JJ has checked in

**touchback** · 07-16-13, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Why do all these books claim they had been around for 10 or more years?

Because they have not thought things out or lack good advice from someone that understands the dynamics of the industry as well as sales and marketing. Just pick a number that sounds like they are stable, OK 10 years is good. It is stupid if they cannot support the statement in someway at the very least. There are indeed invite only or PPH skins that have been around a long time and can be converted to post up and make such a claim. To just skin out a new brand and site and make such a claim is weak at best... informed people will know the truth and savvy inet users can also figure out how long a site or service has been around. When the truth finally gets out it just looks bad because of the initial deception... a LIAR is a LIAR is a LIAR... and cannot be trusted. If you cannot trust anything to begin with then it will follow your marketing and sales attempts for the duration. Just a bad move... only value is mass email marketing and outbound call center to those that do not know anything and they may just believe it... and send funds.