Cle +102

**joco** · 07-03-13, 10:47 AM

i agree, im all over cleveland

**leetreaper** · 07-03-13, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by joco

i agree, im all over cleveland

**joco** · 07-03-13, 11:03 AM

already at -110 now on both my books...line moved within the last hour

**DeezusWINSTREAKT** · 07-03-13, 11:19 AM

Cleveland 5 game win streak how's that make y'all feel??? Beat in succession of past games Sale, Axelrod, and scoring 30+ runs in that double header vs them almost . Royals put up work yesterday their offense is scoring, guthrie decent he way better than mendoza. Isn't kazmir coming off an awesome start though?? I will check.

Maybe we will see a barrage of runs vs KC and shut em down

**DeezusWINSTREAKT** · 07-03-13, 11:21 AM

They swept the whitesox doibleheader, last two To Make win all 4 games of series scoring 50 runs about, got a day off and went to kC and won again

This would be win 6

**joco** · 07-03-13, 11:23 AM

coming off 2 awesome starts if u ask me...last 14 innings 1 ER, 11k, 1 BB, 6 hits

**DeezusWINSTREAKT** · 07-03-13, 11:31 AM

Kazmir last start june 26, 6 to 7 days to date. Game! As vs Orioles, game was a win, Orioles got 1 hit by kazmir. 4-3 win, bullpen gave up 3 runs, Patton 1 ER and J smith one run on two hits. J smith later in doubleheader gave up a lotta runs I think. Kazmirs fly out ground out ratio was awesome, 9 outs fly to 4 outs ground, 4 Ks one walk

He was.awesome like I thought but it was almost a week ago not 5 days they saved em for today maybe??? Wonder why rotation switch

**DeezusWINSTREAKT** · 07-03-13, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by joco

coming off 2 awesome starts if u ask me...last 14 innings 1 ER, 11k, 1 BB, 6 hits

MaKe itt two!!! I remember last game was great. It was vs orioles. Start before was Twins

**DeezusWINSTREAKT** · 07-03-13, 11:33 AM

Make that 6 hits 7 Ks one earned run vs twins against last games boxscore / pitching line then huh

**DeezusWINSTREAKT** · 07-03-13, 11:34 AM

ka$mir looking $

Swisher seen 27 at bats vs Guthrie . Asdrubal and Giambi, double digits, Raburn , evrrybody seen 8-10 at bats they know this pitcher well. Guthrie been slacking lately

Kc billy butler 14 ab vs guthrie

Everybody else 3-5 or so

**DeezusWINSTREAKT** · 07-03-13, 11:39 AM

This enough 4 me to feel even better Than good about today again. Indians paid me well yesterday..

Gonna edit this post w guthrie info I'm lookin anywyays

**mitch51** · 07-03-13, 11:41 AM

Nice call, they look good all the way.

**face** · 07-03-13, 11:43 AM

royals relievers are garbage. also their hitters swing at balls. indians much more disciplined at the plate

**Ra77er** · 07-03-13, 11:45 AM

All this insightful info means Kansas City to the electric chair

**DeezusWINSTREAKT** · 07-03-13, 11:48 AM

Guthrie had a 18 start streak where royals won the games, and was 10-0. Since then he lost 3 starts since, 2nd of these 3 being worst start of his career and the 3rd game being a 3-1 loss to twins but 1 earned run thru about 7 for guthrie

Y'all think they will mash guthrie? How many runs? If they both give up low amount what bullpen y'all think is better? Id say they similar. Both have decent closers...

I think Kaz gives up 2-3 and Guthrie Gives up same bout 2-3 . Hard for me to go big on indians today

**DeezusWINSTREAKT** · 07-03-13, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by face

royals relievers are garbage. also their hitters swing at balls. indians much more disciplined at the plate

For sure good look

I think reynolds due for a hr

**StevenSuarez** · 07-03-13, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by face

royals relievers are garbage. also their hitters swing at balls. indians much more disciplined at the plate

2025 MLB Batting Pitching Team Stat Leaders - ESPN

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/pitching/split/128

ESPN is the place for MLB stats! Find a list of the Batting Pitching team stat leaders for the 2025 MLB Regular Season.

**DeezusWINSTREAKT** · 07-03-13, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by StevenSuarez

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/...hing/split/128

Wow thx for this I'll call myself right cuz I jus edited out of my last post that I think kc has better relievers I changed it to, they Are about same w indians.

But indians lower on stat chart huh? Thx for this

**DeezusWINSTREAKT** · 07-03-13, 11:56 AM

Huuuuuge difference. 21 indians and kc at 5. Bullpen better for kc by a big big difference

**DeezusWINSTREAKT** · 07-03-13, 11:57 AM

I'm off this one for now guys good luck I'm stickin to small or parlay

**ridims** · 07-03-13, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by face

royals relievers are garbage.

r you kidding me? KC has one of the best bullpens in the league. ranked #5 - they keep that team in games.

unreal.

as for cleveland, well, kazmir has those games where he shits the bed. he got roughed up by seattle and washington, two teams who can't hit lefties but destroyed him. he didnt last more then 3 innings in each. He has pitched well but expect him to give up a game sooner then later. He isnt reliable .. Guthrie isnt either and he is awful in any month he pitches in. He can give u a great game after every 6 starts or so but he is just bad. He walks a ton and not many K's. Gives up a lot of hits.

KC is not playing well and are like 6-9 in L15. i expect them to keep tanking but you never know.. this team is scrappy. they lost 2 of 3 games in cleveland recently so they have revenge on there minds.

two pitchers who can't be trusted imo. Kazmir with more of an edge on the mound but he can easily be hammered by looking at recent history against teams who cant hit.

**face** · 07-03-13, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by StevenSuarez

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/...hing/split/128

ok maybe not garbage but 17 -14 not so great

5

Kansas City

77

17

14

2.91

21

0

213.2

--

69

74

87

215

.224

look at texas on that list, #9 but 17-9

**ridims** · 07-03-13, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by face

ok maybe not garbage but 17 -14 not so great

5

Kansas City

77

17

14

2.91

21

213.2

--

69

74

87

215

.224

look at texas on that list, #9 but 17-9

wait, your looking at wins / loses ? are you serious?

if your team can't score, you lose. KC has issues putting up runs but there pen is solid in which they dont allow many runs and keep you in the ball game.

come on man ... i dont want to go any deeper in this discussion because its ridiculous.. but please don't say a team has shitty relievers when there main problem is scoring runs.

**ProfaneReality** · 07-03-13, 01:01 PM

KC averaging a full run higher p/game vs LHP

**leetreaper** · 07-03-13, 01:06 PM

Also KC bullpen threw 134 pitches last 3 days against Cle 62, not sure if thats gonna make a big difference but still...

**DeezusWINSTREAKT** · 07-03-13, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by ridims

wait, your looking at wins / loses ? are you serious?

if your team can't score, you lose. KC has issues putting up runs but there pen is solid in which they dont allow many runs and keep you in the ball game.

come on man ... i dont want to go any deeper in this discussion because its ridiculous.. but please don't say a team has shitty relievers when there main problem is scoring runs.

Plz dont

**DeezusWINSTREAKT** · 07-03-13, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by ProfaneReality

KC averaging a full run higher p/game vs LHP

Good look they only needed 1 more last night to

**actiondan** · 07-03-13, 01:17 PM

KC first five, can't risk that crummy bullpen blowing it

**face** · 07-03-13, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by ridims

wait, your looking at wins / loses ? are you serious?

if your team can't score, you lose. KC has issues putting up runs but there pen is solid in which they dont allow many runs and keep you in the ball game.

come on man ... i dont want to go any deeper in this discussion because its ridiculous.. but please don't say a team has shitty relievers when there main problem is scoring runs.

fine you ride with collins and crow. the point is that if the game is tied or only a one run lead, which is not unlikely vs. a good team like the indians, that kc has a good chance of blowing it. you say wait, look at the era, when of course i know that, that's how texas is number 9 on the list and kc number 5, that's the point i was making.

**DeezusWINSTREAKT** · 07-03-13, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by actiondan

KC first five, can't risk that crummy bullpen blowing it

Who's crummy bullpen? Kc? Kc has better bullpen

**ridims** · 07-04-13, 06:18 AM

**leetreaper** · 07-04-13, 07:30 AM

Tough loss...

**leetreaper** · 07-04-13, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by ridims