The Cleveland Cavaliers are a F’n problem!

[Mac4Lyfe]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NBA teams to start a season better than the 2024-25 Cavs: <br><br>2016 Warriors<br>2003 Mavericks<br>1994 Rockets<br>1958 Celtics<br><br>That&#39;s it. <a href="https://t.co/jaHRxypqaT">pic.twitter.com/jaHRxypqaT</a></p>&mdash; StatMuse (@statmuse) <a href="https://twitter.com/statmuse/status/1856889730493030627?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >November 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mac4Lyfe]

^these guys are like aging boxers. They just can’t stop. They have no life outside of sports. What more does Pop have to prove.

I always remember a guy I worked with that retired. He said the worst part was having to spend every waking minute with his wife…

[stevenash]

^
@Mac

I read that he had an 'episode' earlier this week.
I understand that Pops life calling is hoops and teaching, but it's seriously time for him to let go.

There isn't much left for him to accomplish, just let go, maybe write a book.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Get well soon, Pop.

[Mac4Lyfe]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/8ymPjBU8Oj">pic.twitter.com/8ymPjBU8Oj</a></p>&mdash; San Antonio Spurs (@spurs) <a href="https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1856755181343625382?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >November 13, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mac4Lyfe]

I just read a very interesting fun fact.
Which player so far is this season's (minimum of six game starts) worst rim protector/defender.
*Rim defender is defined as a contested defender on shots taken in the restricted zone*

I would have said Dame Dolla. Maybe they’re only looking at bigs but teams are just abusing Dame in the paint and he’s offered zero resistance.

[IBetYou]

Yeah, I was taken aback some when I read that.
When I think of KAT, it's usually that of a guy who'll get you 20+/10+ night in and night out for the past decade.

KAT will never make any sportswriter's DPOY list, but I don't think he's an atrocious defender either.
It's still very early in this current campaign, and if anybody can straighten this out it's Thibadeau, but these numbers are beyond disturbing.

To date, opponents have converted 32 of 35 shots taken in the 'restricted zone' with KAT defending, 91 percent if you will.

Small sample size? Yes.
A startling percentage? An even bigger Yes.

You mean an even bigger yes to you, but not to anyone else. He's always been a substandard defender -why do you think the T'Wolves got Gobert while he was still on the roster?

[stevenash]

Is this Towns? Heard someone on a talk show discussing this earlier.

Yeah, I was taken aback some when I read that.
When I think of KAT, it's usually that of a guy who'll get you 20+/10+ night in and night out for the past decade.

KAT will never make any sportswriter's DPOY list, but I don't think he's an atrocious defender either.
It's still very early in this current campaign, and if anybody can straighten this out it's Thibadeau, but these numbers are beyond disturbing.

To date, opponents have converted 32 of 35 shots taken in the 'restricted zone' with KAT defending, 91 percent if you will.

Small sample size? Yes.
A startling percentage? An even bigger Yes.

[Chief Wahoo]

Is this Towns? Heard someone on a talk show discussing this earlier.

I just read a very interesting fun fact.

Which player so far is this season's (minimum of six game starts) worst rim protector/defender.
*Rim defender is defined as a contested defender on shots taken in the restricted zone*

[stevenash]

I just read a very interesting fun fact.

Which player so far is this season's (minimum of six game starts) worst rim protector/defender.
*Rim defender is defined as a contested defender on shots taken in the restricted zone*

[Mac4Lyfe]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Cavs rein of terror continues… <a href="https://t.co/SNQYfRgzKW">pic.twitter.com/SNQYfRgzKW</a></p>&mdash; McNeil (@Reflog_18) <a href="https://twitter.com/Reflog_18/status/1856320412046528744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >November 12, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mac4Lyfe]

Mac, the fast-start was an old Red Auerbach technique. Come out of the gate, fast start.
Nowadays, it's really about building a position, pacing and finishing strong. Will be looking fwd to the Cle-Bos games.

I think Cle, GSW and OKC are playing a lot of players in uptempo FIBa style. It’s like USA basketball in the Olympics. Keep coming at teams in waves. Can the Cavs keep up or will they crap the bed after the All Star game like they have the previous 3 years. Can they keep winning once teams get more tape on Atkinson?

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Imagine if LA, NY or Boston were undefeated. All we’d hear about on the sports shows would be the win streak. But I like the Cavs are under the radar. Stay healthy, keep racking up wins by kicking ass.

Mac, the fast-start was an old Red Auerbach technique. Come out of the gate, fast start.

Nowadays, it's really about building a position, pacing and finishing strong. Will be looking fwd to the Cle-Bos games.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Imagine if LA, NY or Boston were undefeated. All we’d hear about on the sports shows would be the win streak. But I like the Cavs are under the radar. Stay healthy, keep racking up wins by kicking ass.

[Doug tushyterror]

Clippers got screwed by the refs down the stretch here. Ricky tack gave SGA FTs and Harden got fouled by Dort and no call. OKC wins. Great game.

Finally ahead of PHI for 3rd in the East. They just might have to start 16-0 winning in BOS to "finally" leapfrog NYY. Not that any of this matters this early but the disrespect is beyond blatant at this point.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CAVS JUST 8TH TEAM IN HISTORY TO START 12-0!!! <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/8yR93W9TZc">pic.twitter.com/8yR93W9TZc</a></p>&mdash; McNeil (@Reflog_18) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/Reflog_18/status/1856174741029040330?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >November 12, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ha-ha, Mac. Nice picture.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Clippers got screwed by the refs down the stretch here. Ricky tack gave SGA FTs and Harden got fouled by Dort and no call. OKC wins. Great game.

[Mac4Lyfe]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CAVS JUST 8TH TEAM IN HISTORY TO START 12-0!!! <a href="https://t.co/8yR93W9TZc">pic.twitter.com/8yR93W9TZc</a></p>&mdash; McNeil (@Reflog_18) <a href="https://twitter.com/Reflog_18/status/1856174741029040330?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >November 12, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mac4Lyfe]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OKC’s starting lineup tonight: <br><br>Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (6’6)<br>Isaiah Joe (6’3)<br>Aaron Wiggins (6’5)<br>Lu Dort (6’4)<br>Jalen Williams (6’5)<br><br>(Via <a href="https://twitter.com/Underdog__NBA?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Unde rdog__NBA</a> ) <a href="https://t.co/k7WAIsedDc">pic.twitter.com/k7WAIsedDc</a></p>&mdash; NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1856135420926472465?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >November 12, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Great game in OKC tonight. Every time I think the Clippers are done, they keep fighting back. Zubac is an underrated center as well.

[stevenash]

The Bulls play a blistering pace. Good game experience for the Cavs. This one won’t be easy.

LaVine is back 100 percent, when Chicago has their starting five intact, they can beat any team on any given night.
Giddey, LaVine. and Coby White all are capable of stuffing the stat sheet.
Vucevic is a criminally underrated center, after the usual first tier center suspects, Embid, Joker, et al, I believe Vucevic is at the top, or near the top of the second tier centers.

I'd rather go to war with Vucevic than Bam, mind you I wouldn't mind Bam as my starting center.

Chet Holmgren will be reevaluated in 8 to 10 weeks with a broken pelvis.

Brutal.

Those pelvic and groin injuries are brutal for any athlete, in any sport, individual or team events.
I was a catcher (12 years, starting from age eight in Little League, all the way through HS and up to my junior year in college.

I've been concussed multiple times, bones broken by foul tips and shattered bats...
You ever try to catch nine innings with a pulled groin, or worse, it can't be done unless you're completely impervious to pain.
That's a humongous loss to OKC. their top three centers on the depth chart (Holmgren, Hartenstein, and Jay Williams) are all on the shelf, Thunder have to go to war now with Pat William and Dieng in the middle until after the New Year.

OKC had to know when they signed Hartenstein from NYK that he was prone to injuries, he can't help himself, he likes to grind down low.
That Knicks KAT deal is looking more and more like a stroke a genius.

Getting back to what I was saying about Vucevic, he's in his 15th year now, do you realize Vucevic averages 70 games played a year, every year since after his rookie year, the man in indestructible.

As much as I love Jokic and Vucevic, my guy has always been Sabonis, Sabonis is in his tenth year now, he's indestructible like Vucevic as well, Sabonis has averaged about 66 games a season, every season.

That's amazing considering a lot of the big men, Porzingis, Embid, etc. can't stay off of the IR.

[Mac4Lyfe]

The Bulls play a blistering pace. Good game experience for the Cavs. This one won’t be easy.

[Chief Wahoo]

Amazing thing to me is the Cavs have went over their team total every first quarter. Finally starting to see 30s. Will be interesting to see where this goes if they finally lose a game.

[stevenash]

Donovan Mitchell can't miss tonight.
22 points in the first 15 minutes.
He's on a 76-point pace.
That's unrealistic, but a 44-point night give or take I can see happening.

Blistering start in this game, 70 points combined first quarter.

[Mac4Lyfe]

OMG - Chet Holmgren will be reevaluated in 8 to 10 weeks with a broken pelvis. That is awful. He won’t be evaluated for a couple months. That means he’s out for at least 3 months. Unreal…

[Mac4Lyfe]

Neither is LeBron 19/10/16. Dude is killing Father Time.

[stevenash]

Joker
37/18/15 (and three steals for good measure).

The man is not human.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Chet Holmgren goes down with an injury. GSW wins a tight one. One thing you can’t cap is injuries.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Fantastic first half GSW/OKC. It’s raining inside.

[Mac4Lyfe]

^
I had NBA Pass, last year our content provider dropped it, I just got it back, we're YouTube TV now.

I'm in a major Best Ball season league, fantasy hoops is great because I can keep up with say a Tyrus Jones in Arizona for instance.

Yeah, it’s well worth the price for fantasy alone.

[stevenash]

^
I had NBA Pass, last year our content provider dropped it, I just got it back, we're YouTube TV now.

I'm in a major Best Ball season league, fantasy hoops is great because I can keep up with say a Tyrus Jones in Arizona for instance.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Nasher - Some great games this evening in the Association. GSW vs OKC is must see for me. Celtics vs Bucks with the Cs a bit banged up, no Brown. Knicks/Pacers, Kings/Suns, Mavs/Nuggets. NBA league Pass is really a great value.

[stevenash]

I was going to say Finney-Smith is squirrely, but he's a decent rebounder.

Yeah.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I'm fortunate, I'm in New England pretty much halfway between NYC and Boston, so I get both markets including Brooklyn, so I watch the Nets sometimes. Here's the Brooklyn problem, I like the two Cam's and Schroder is a nice PG. after that they're about deep as a puddle.
Claxton could be a top eight NBA center, but can't be trusted because he's fragile and gets hurt, but Claxton when healthy is as good as say Ayton is.

Spot on. I don’t get why Claxton hasn’t gotten bigger/ stronger. He could be a beast if he got in the weight room. DFS is such an anomaly for me. You never know what you’re going to get out of him. That’s the position that needs an All Star level guy. Bogdanovich will help once he comes back.

The coach has them playing full court defense. Teams aren’t used to that FIBA style of play. Can they keep it up every other night or will they wear out? I don’t think it’s sustainable but we’ll see.

[stevenash]

Nets should have beat the Celtics last night. Lost in OT and scrapped and scraped with the Cavs tonight. I like the Nets coach. That team is going to be a good one. They have like 3 key guys out injured too.

I'm fortunate, I'm in New England pretty much halfway between NYC and Boston, so I get both markets including Brooklyn, so I watch the Nets sometimes. Here's the Brooklyn problem, I like the two Cam's and Schroder is a nice PG. after that they're about deep as a puddle.
Claxton could be a top eight NBA center, but can't be trusted because he's fragile and gets hurt, but Claxton when healthy is as good as say Ayton is.

[Mac4Lyfe]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Darius Garland: “THAT WAS A BIG penetrating WIN” <a href="https://t.co/SdmKoH6GHY">pic.twitter.com/SdmKoH6GHY</a></p>&mdash; Isaac Okoro Fan Club (@IsaacOkoroFan) <a href="https://twitter.com/IsaacOkoroFan/status/1855447784670790137?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >November 10, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>