Question to the board: Have you ever profitably paid for a tout service?

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  • ChuckyTheGoat
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    • 04-04-11
    • 37041

    #1
    Question to the board: Have you ever profitably paid for a tout service?
    In my opinion, one of three end-games:

    1) The picks suck. Can't back em confidently.

    2) Marginal plays. Can't risk it relative to the reward.

    3) If he does happen to win, the line skyrockets upon release. Can't match their release #, so you have to pass. And if you do happen to tail said pick, books are quick to show you the door.

    FWIW, I've paid for tout picks twice in the past decade:
    *Paid $2 for a Dave Cokin Coll FB GOM.
    *Paid for two weeks of Baseball service from a documented winner. His lines MOONED upon release. Can't pay 16-cents worse of it. So, I never tailed a single pick. Wasted money.
    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
  • unde0087
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    • 03-27-08
    • 28893

    #2
    Ya, Nasher only charges me $25 a play for his "Nasher bookie basher" plays. I am killing it.
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    • VeggieDog
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      • 02-21-09
      • 7214

      #3
      I've never paid for it.
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      • veriableodds
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        • 08-22-17
        • 5093

        #4
        Nothing like putting your own work in. Have watched some posters picks, then go to do research on the pick(s) and they don't make any sense. No logic, rhyme or reasoning behind them
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        • asiagambler
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          • 07-23-17
          • 6831

          #5
          Which tout is cucky gonna shill for in this thread ?
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          • ChuckyTheGoat
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            • 04-04-11
            • 37041

            #6
            Originally posted by veriableodds
            Nothing like putting your own work in. Have watched some posters picks, then go to do research on the pick(s) and they don't make any sense. No logic, rhyme or reasoning behind them
            Agree, veri. I'm actually a terrible FOLLOWER.

            1) Invariably, I am staring at a less than peak #.

            2) I also seem to be a Bad Luck charm.
            Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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            • Mr KLC
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              • 12-19-07
              • 31097

              #7
              Look for my info on "X". I have about 3000 "cappers" I follow. If something pops up that makes sense, I give it a ride.
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              • veriableodds
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 08-22-17
                • 5093

                #8
                Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                Agree, veri. I'm actually a terrible FOLLOWER.

                1) Invariably, I am staring at a less than peak #.

                2) I also seem to be a Bad Luck charm.
                No need to question anything Chuck. Here are a few tips
                -Healthy activities anytime you can
                -Stick to only large advantages (trying to discern small edges sometimes need eliminating altogether)
                -Women are great friends, and listeners
                -Yes hit the gym 3x a week
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                • stevenash
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                  • 01-17-11
                  • 65353

                  #9
                  Originally posted by unde0087
                  Ya, Nasher only charges me $25 a play for his "Nasher bookie basher" plays. I am killing it.
                  You're too kind Unde, and worth every penny of that 25 dollars don't ya know.

                  Truth of the matter is I detest touts, they're bottom feeders if you ask me.
                  I say to the touts when they cold call me "No thanks, I can lose bets on my own"

                  Not for nothing.The only 'tout' (and he wasn't a tout really) that makes money long term betting MLB chalk is Benjamin Lee "Dr. Chalk" Eckstein.
                  Eckstein is syndicated so he's not a tout per se.
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                  • ChuckyTheGoat
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 04-04-11
                    • 37041

                    #10
                    Originally posted by veriableodds
                    No need to question anything Chuck. Here are a few tips
                    -Healthy activities anytime you can
                    -Stick to only large advantages (trying to discern small edges sometimes need eliminating altogether)
                    -Women are great friends, and listeners
                    -Yes hit the gym 3x a week
                    Veri, thought-provoking response.
                    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                    • mjsuax13
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                      • 03-14-15
                      • 25024

                      #11
                      <a href="https://ibb.co/722WQqx"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/Rzz0NqG/IMG-5290.png" alt="IMG-5290" border="0"></a>
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                      • BOA12
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-19-12
                        • 20622

                        #12
                        Originally posted by veriableodds
                        Nothing like putting your own work in. Have watched some posters picks, then go to do research on the pick(s) and they don't make any sense. No logic, rhyme or reasoning behind them
                        Originally posted by stevenash
                        You're too kind Unde, and worth every penny of that 25 dollars don't ya know.

                        Truth of the matter is I detest touts, they're bottom feeders if you ask me.
                        I say to the touts when they cold call me "No thanks, I can lose bets on my own"

                        Not for nothing.The only 'tout' (and he wasn't a tout really) that makes money long term betting MLB chalk is Benjamin Lee "Dr. Chalk" Eckstein.
                        Eckstein is syndicated so he's not a tout per se.
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                        Making your own "picks" is a sign of good breeding, thank Mom and Dad.
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                        • unde0087
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                          • 03-27-08
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                          #13
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                          • mcaulay777
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-13-10
                            • 1768

                            #14
                            No but i did follow a couple of guys for a while when the RX And SBR had picks, Andre Gomes and Paul Lineart i think it was his name i forgot it.But they did very well with Overs in Nba and Nfl for a couple of seasons but that was ;ate 2010s 15-18 maybe.
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                            • ChuckyTheGoat
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 04-04-11
                              • 37041

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mcaulay777
                              No but i did follow a couple of guys for a while when the RX And SBR had picks, Andre Gomes and Paul Lineart i think it was his name i forgot it.But they did very well with Overs in Nba and Nfl for a couple of seasons but that was ;ate 2010s 15-18 maybe.
                              I do remember that name Andre Gomes. I know he had a good record one season. But I don't think he was able to sustain it.
                              Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                              • Headsterx
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-03-16
                                • 22725

                                #16
                                Psychics, how to get rich, how to pick up women, and touts are entertaining to listen to late at night while drunk but will never pay for their idiotic schemes.
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                                • Headsterx
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-03-16
                                  • 22725

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by stevenash
                                  You're too kind Unde, and worth every penny of that 25 dollars don't ya know.

                                  Truth of the matter is I detest touts, they're bottom feeders if you ask me.
                                  I say to the touts when they cold call me "No thanks, I can lose bets on my own"

                                  Not for nothing.The only 'tout' (and he wasn't a tout really) that makes money long term betting MLB chalk is Benjamin Lee "Dr. Chalk" Eckstein.
                                  Eckstein is syndicated so he's not a tout per se.
                                  Not familiar with this topic but what does it mean being “syndicated”? Talking about being connected or I’m just watching too many movies. 😁
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                                  • stevenash
                                    Moderator
                                    • 01-17-11
                                    • 65353

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Headsterx
                                    Not familiar with this topic but what does it mean being “syndicated”? Talking about being connected or I’m just watching too many movies. 
                                    Syndicated meaning many, many publications post his plays.

                                    About Benjamin Lee Eckstein | Americas Line
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                                    • Headsterx
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 12-03-16
                                      • 22725

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by stevenash
                                      Syndicated meaning many, many publications post his plays.

                                      About Benjamin Lee Eckstein | Americas Line
                                      Ah ok, thanks!
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                                      • mjsuax13
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                                        • 03-14-15
                                        • 25024

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by mjsuax13
                                        <a rel="nofollow" href="https://ibb.co/722WQqx"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/Rzz0NqG/IMG-5290.png" alt="IMG-5290" border="0"></a>
                                        I asked this guy if these won and he said 2-0 today! Bahahahahah
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                                        • ChuckyTheGoat
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 04-04-11
                                          • 37041

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by mjsuax13
                                          I asked this guy if these won and he said 2-0 today! Bahahahahah
                                          Ha-ha. Touts fudging #s? Never.

                                          BTW, GeoTech bettors should give their $$ back.
                                          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                          • DonnieBrasco23
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-06-23
                                            • 1136

                                            #22
                                            Better question to the board is if posters have ever paid for sex. I’m talking about directly not indirectly of course.
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                                            • stevenash
                                              Moderator
                                              • 01-17-11
                                              • 65353

                                              #23
                                              ^
                                              Believe it or not, never.
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                                              • Getch13
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 07-13-18
                                                • 6894

                                                #24
                                                Never paid a tout, but I've paid for info, things like Statfox, and Kempom to name a couple.
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                                                • stevenash
                                                  Moderator
                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                  • 65353

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Getch13
                                                  Never paid a tout, but I've paid for info, things like Statfox, and Kempom to name a couple.
                                                  Yeah, paying for information is different.
                                                  And it's not really that costly, I think most basis sites are free, and the premium sites are like six dollars a month.
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                                                  • DonnieBrasco23
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-06-23
                                                    • 1136

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Getch13
                                                    Never paid a tout, but I've paid for info, things like Statfox, and Kempom to name a couple.
                                                    Have you found anything remotely close to statfox since they left the scene ?
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                                                    • veriableodds
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 08-22-17
                                                      • 5093

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by DonnieBrasco23
                                                      Have you found anything remotely close to statfox since they left the scene ?
                                                      Besides my own created model's : sites like gameday math, team rankings, unabated can be useful.
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                                                      • Getch13
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 07-13-18
                                                        • 6894

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by DonnieBrasco23
                                                        Have you found anything remotely close to statfox since they left the scene ?
                                                        Steve Makinen one of the founder of Statfox is now with VSIN. other than that no.
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                                                        • ByeShea
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                                                          • 06-30-08
                                                          • 8072

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by VeggieDog
                                                          I've never paid for it.
                                                          I've only paid for it. And the highest-class hooker would be hands down bargain of the century compared to the ex-wife.
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                                                          • mjsuax13
                                                            Moderator
                                                            • 03-14-15
                                                            • 25024

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by ByeShea
                                                            I've only paid for it. And the highest-class hooker would be hands down bargain of the century compared to the ex-wife.
                                                            Yes- easy math.
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                                                            • DonnieBrasco23
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-06-23
                                                              • 1136

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Getch13
                                                              Steve Makinen one of the founder of Statfox is now with VSIN. other than that no.
                                                              Does VSIN offer what STATFOX had regarding their matchup analysis ?
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                                                              • Headsterx
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 12-03-16
                                                                • 22725

                                                                #32
                                                                We're excited to announce that Troy Wins is now live on Winible! This move allows us to provide you with the best picks and service possible, sending you plays via text message and email. Get my plays texted to you in real-time.

                                                                I am giving the first 50 people to sign up for my group on Winible 7 free days of picks. This package includes all my best VIP plays for all sports. We also cover Prop bets and PrizePicks!

                                                                🤣🤣🤣
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                                                                • DonnieBrasco23
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-06-23
                                                                  • 1136

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Headsterx
                                                                  We're excited to announce that Troy Wins is now live on Winible! This move allows us to provide you with the best picks and service possible, sending you plays via text message and email. Get my plays texted to you in real-time.

                                                                  I am giving the first 50 people to sign up for my group on Winible 7 free days of picks. This package includes all my best VIP plays for all sports. We also cover Prop bets and PrizePicks!

                                                                  藍藍藍
                                                                  I noticed thomorino is not listed at that tout service anymore, that miserable bald cawksucker lost his job his picks were so bad
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                                                                  • Getch13
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 07-13-18
                                                                    • 6894

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by DonnieBrasco23
                                                                    Does VSIN offer what STATFOX had regarding their matchup analysis ?
                                                                    You could try Covers if your looking for something free.

                                                                    No what you get is his picks that have some of the trends he's cherry pick for that game. You get his power rankings for all sports except Soccer, and NHL. You will also get some system plays. Here's a little from yesterdays MLB game.

                                                                    Overall MLB Postseason Trends
                                                                    Line AnglesHome favorites of -112 to -180 in the MLB playoffs dating back to 2018 have been very vulnerable, as they are just 67-71 SU (-33.86 units, ROI: -24.5%)
                                                                    System Match (FADE): LA DODGERS (-162 vs. NYM)

                                                                    Series wins status
                                                                    Home field has proven somewhat advantageous in series that are even, as hosts in this situation have gone 77-74 on run lines (+14.99 units, ROI: 9.9%) since 2015.
                                                                    System Match (PLAY): LA DODGERS (-1.5 vs. NYM)

                                                                    Trends based upon regular season records
                                                                    In the last 112 MLB playoff games matching teams with 7+ regular season win differential between them, the supposed better team is just 50-62 SU (-36.05 units, ROI: -32.2%) since ’19, including a hard-to-fathom 1-13 in 2023!
                                                                    System Match (FADE): LA DODGERS (-162 vs NYM)

                                                                    In the last three playoff seasons following a full regular season (excluding 2020), MLB teams that won less than 90 games are on a surge of 51-44 SU (+16.08 units, ROI: 16.9%) and 62-33 on run lines (+21.10 units, ROI: 22.2%) in playoff games.
                                                                    System Match (PLAY): NY METS


                                                                    Last edited by Getch13; 10-14-24, 08:33 AM.
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                                                                    • Headsterx
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 12-03-16
                                                                      • 22725

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by DonnieBrasco23
                                                                      I noticed thomorino is not listed at that tout service anymore, that miserable bald cawksucker lost his job his picks were so bad
                                                                      That is too funny! 🤣

                                                                      Probably got caught lying too. Once I saw that he claimed his WNBA record was 60+% but he was never shown in their top winners for the week or month. And some of the top winners had like 55%. Hope he comes back here as the golden months of November and December are approaching!
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