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    SBR Sharp
    • 12-09-05
    • 423

    #561
    Federer adds to his semi-final or better record in Grand Slams, now at 46. A record that will probably never be broken, not in my lifetime anyway. Talk about consistency and longevity.
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    • Emmanuel70
      SBR Hustler
      • 02-18-19
      • 95

      #562
      Djoko won the coin toss and serve 1st.
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      • JaimeMiro
        SBR MVP
        • 03-14-17
        • 2515

        #563
        I knew Tennys was going to choke not taking advantage when Fed was clearly out in the 4th. Now Djokovic/Raonic win in 3 against Fed -- he's blown his load
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        • Emmanuel70
          SBR Hustler
          • 02-18-19
          • 95

          #564
          Raonic struggling with 1st serve, muggy play once more vs. Djoko!
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          • burtonrider726
            SBR High Roller
            • 12-15-13
            • 247

            #565
            Raonic struggling with his service games while Joker breezes through. Raonic lacks movement speed and relies on not getting broken
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            • Emmanuel70
              SBR Hustler
              • 02-18-19
              • 95

              #566
              Originally posted by burtonrider726
              Raonic struggling with his service games while Joker breezes through. Raonic lacks movement speed and relies on not getting broken

              Aye, matter of time when he gets broken...
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              • MiDNiTe
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 11-11-13
                • 7684

                #567
                Raonic was like this with cilic so hopefully he can get his serve going
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                • asiagambler
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 07-23-17
                  • 6827

                  #568
                  Encouraging game for Raonic
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                  • MiDNiTe
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 11-11-13
                    • 7684

                    #569
                    Joker so good at returning ffs
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                    • mikmik
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 05-13-12
                      • 5457

                      #570
                      Smfh between Sand and Wisky fcukijg had live bet offers to cash out. Should have just taken it.
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                      • Jeff_Black
                        SBR MVP
                        • 04-04-15
                        • 3571

                        #571
                        Seems to be a tug of war of when Raonic can bomb a few serves on the line in a row or when Djokovic can attack the second serve/get into the Raonic first serve.

                        Provided Djokovic doesn't have a few sloppy service points in a row like he did last game.

                        Could come down to who cracks first in a potential Tiebreaker
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                        • MiDNiTe
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 11-11-13
                          • 7684

                          #572
                          Milos just one more hold pls, couple aces thanks
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                          • MiDNiTe
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-11-13
                            • 7684

                            #573
                            Fuk just needed 1 hold
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                            • Emmanuel70
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 02-18-19
                              • 95

                              #574
                              Raonic hypnotized from returns...
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                              • MiDNiTe
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 11-11-13
                                • 7684

                                #575
                                Fuk how did joker do that damn
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                                • MiDNiTe
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-11-13
                                  • 7684

                                  #576
                                  Man Milo's wtf
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                                  • Emmanuel70
                                    SBR Hustler
                                    • 02-18-19
                                    • 95

                                    #577
                                    Raonic utter mug, despite the ability of Djoko to superb return, this is Girly play from the Canadian...
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                                    • asiagambler
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 07-23-17
                                      • 6827

                                      #578
                                      Soft
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                                      • Jeff_Black
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-04-15
                                        • 3571

                                        #579
                                        A matter of time before Raonic cracked. Started to see a few more second serves being under pressure and that's what it does. But his biggest weakness seems to be that he cant hit down the line shots very often or very well, and you cant beat the best not being able to at times pull the trigger. And when you are an average mover around the court it all adds up and then forces errors.

                                        One thing that surprises me is that Raonic hasn't volleyed as much here and expects to go toe to toe with a pretty much inpenetrateable backhand and a superior mover. I don't know if it would make a difference but Djoker is predicting his serve patterns a bit more now.
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                                        • MiDNiTe
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 11-11-13
                                          • 7684

                                          #580
                                          Yeah for a big server Milo's needs to practice volleys more, look like he's got stone hands, don't think he wants to go net alot because he doesn't trust his volleys and is shit scared of joker's passing shots
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                                          • MiDNiTe
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 11-11-13
                                            • 7684

                                            #581
                                            Joker will be -350 to -400 vs fed
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                                            • Jeff_Black
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 04-04-15
                                              • 3571

                                              #582
                                              Haha just as you say that he nets one on deuce. Definately needs to work on it, technique is just off...its just about creating that unpredictability on serve and giving the opponent more then one thing to think about rather then them having the mentality that going to your backhand.

                                              And the passing shots, i dont think Federer or Nadal have ever had an answer to them consistently this decade. But with his reach you'd think he'd be better.
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                                              • MiDNiTe
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 11-11-13
                                                • 7684

                                                #583
                                                U would think out of all the slams Milo's would like Wimbledon most, u need to be at least decent at the net at Wimbledon, anyways what's everyone else thinking joker's odds against fed?
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                                                • burtonrider726
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 12-15-13
                                                  • 247

                                                  #584
                                                  the Big three are so far ahead in their games versus everyone else. Raonic isn’t in the same tier because he keeps getting his weaknesses exploited. Against anyone else, he doesn’t need to be good at everything. Just goes to show how well rounded the big threes games are
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                                                  • Jeff_Black
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-04-15
                                                    • 3571

                                                    #585
                                                    Originally posted by MiDNiTe
                                                    U would think out of all the slams Milo's would like Wimbledon most, u need to be at least decent at the net at Wimbledon, anyways what's everyone else thinking joker's odds against fed?
                                                    I wonder if they would factor in Fed's motivation to stop Novak winning another slam.

                                                    He would probably be okay with Nadal overtaking him because Nadal is seen as the clay dominant, and they are perceived as buddies off court. But Novak has beaten his two rivals more then vice versa and he's done it on their preferred surfaces time and time again, and he's an all surface player who is seen as the bigger threat because he can win on hard courts and grass.

                                                    Worst case scenario its the 2016 Australian Open Semi Final.

                                                    But maybe the line and total will be similar to this match?

                                                    To be honest, even after watching this game, I think Novak has another level he can bring his game up to which we all saw last year too.
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                                                    • JaimeMiro
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-14-17
                                                      • 2515

                                                      #586
                                                      Originally posted by burtonrider726
                                                      the Big three are so far ahead in their games versus everyone else. Raonic isn’t in the same tier because he keeps getting his weaknesses exploited. Against anyone else, he doesn’t need to be good at everything. Just goes to show how well rounded the big threes games are
                                                      The big 3 are not human, these dudes return everything -- generate as many BP's until opponent cracks. Rafa's averaging 19 @ AO this year. Djoker's on 12 against Raonic
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                                                      • JaimeMiro
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 03-14-17
                                                        • 2515

                                                        #587
                                                        Originally posted by Jeff_Black
                                                        I wonder if they would factor in Fed's motivation to stop Novak winning another slam.

                                                        He would probably be okay with Nadal overtaking him because Nadal is seen as the clay dominant, and they are perceived as buddies off court. But Novak has beaten his two rivals more then vice versa and he's done it on their preferred surfaces time and time again, and he's an all surface player who is seen as the bigger threat because he can win on hard courts and grass.

                                                        Worst case scenario its the 2016 Australian Open Semi Final.

                                                        But maybe the line and total will be similar to this match?

                                                        To be honest, even after watching this game, I think Novak has another level he can bring his game up to which we all saw last year too.
                                                        I'll take Novak and under -- Fed is done. Movement was off, he'll survive first couple of games then get exposed
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                                                        • Jeff_Black
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-04-15
                                                          • 3571

                                                          #588
                                                          Originally posted by JaimeMiro
                                                          The big 3 are not human, these dudes return everything -- generate as many BP's until opponent cracks. Rafa's averaging 19 @ AO this year. Djoker's on 12 against Raonic
                                                          The interesting thing is...statistically when he was playing David Ferrer was right up there as a returner/returner stats and in some years better(?) which probably is part of the reason why he was in the top 5 and 10 for so long. And he did it being 5'9 as well. But his high percentage style of tennis and no major weapon was also probably why his record against the Big Three wasn't as good.

                                                          It seems there is a new breed of nextgen players interestingly enough, guys that seem to want to put pressure on the serve.
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                                                          • JaimeMiro
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 03-14-17
                                                            • 2515

                                                            #589
                                                            Against any other generation Ferrer would have won multiple slams. Rarely injured, and consistent; a true warrior. We don't have those anymore -- I'd say Agut/Goffin, but not even close.
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                                                            • Jeff_Black
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-04-15
                                                              • 3571

                                                              #590
                                                              Yeah both are real solid all round, moving, not the biggest serves, no real big weapons as well.

                                                              I remember Goffin went on a big run winning multiple titles in a row a few years ago. Can always carve out a good career being those sorts of guys.

                                                              They kind of replaced the Simons/Tsonga/Berdych type of guys in the 5-15 range
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                                                              • burtonrider726
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 12-15-13
                                                                • 247

                                                                #591
                                                                Schwartzman is pretty amazing for his size. Grinder type of player. I like Nishikori, but he isn’t built to play grinding tennis.
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                                                                • JaimeMiro
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 03-14-17
                                                                  • 2515

                                                                  #592
                                                                  I'm a huge Kei fan, however, always disappointed as thought his game would translate well against Big 3.
                                                                  And he's fragile.

                                                                  Only hope against Djoko has to be Nadal. Dude has been in 3 AO finals in last 4 years and just can't convert
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                                                                  • asiagambler
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 07-23-17
                                                                    • 6827

                                                                    #593
                                                                    I actually think value will be on Federer

                                                                    Now I have no interest in taking the moneyline but I think we can get a good price on win a set, game handicap, etc.

                                                                    Sandgren was just a bad matchup for Fed with that heavy topspin. It was almost like he was playing Nadal and he probably (definitely) should have lost

                                                                    Fed should be able to play a bit more aggressively against Joker
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                                                                    • JaimeMiro
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 03-14-17
                                                                      • 2515

                                                                      #594
                                                                      We'll see. Fed has been unreal &spent way too much time on court. He's had 2 testing battles... Just don't think he recovers in time
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                                                                      • Jeff_Black
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 04-04-15
                                                                        • 3571

                                                                        #595
                                                                        When you hold your serve all set only to get a point from a tiebreak off an UE from your opponent heh
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