Pick 6 Contest Suggestions for 2020

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  • SBR Drew
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-08-18
    • 7351

    #1
    Pick 6 Contest Suggestions for 2020
    Guys what a great Pick 6 Contest we had this football season. When researching/reviewing the contest for 2020 we are asking for feedback from you. The contest was a huge success and we are looking for ways to improve your experience. We have a few things already noted but want you to help. Please reply with any ideas here.

    Thank you all for being a huge part of the SBR family...


  • MBENZ
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-07-07
    • 5238

    #2
    Bring back the prick or use Jimmy the bag and have the same format as BTP.One loss in this pick 6 and you basically had no incentive to make any more picks that week.At least with BTP you had some chance of winning something that week.
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    • swordsandtequila
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 02-23-12
      • 9757

      #3
      1. Pros only
      2. Pros only
      3. Pros only


      Announce the contest/open up registration a few months earlier, this gives non-pros ample time to become pro prior to start of contest. Easiest way to eliminate ghosts/scammers. Not pro by start, see you next year.

      4. Make everything -110/110 and use action points to determine finish. Current format became a lottery ticket, pick the few +odds available and hope they hit.

      5. Maybe expand the weekly prize pool with sportsbook free plays, similar to BTP. Lot of 5-1 weeks resulted in zilch.

      No reason the best contest can't be even better.
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      • unlearn
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 03-22-14
        • 8984

        #4
        Pros only from the get go.
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        • RudyRuetigger
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-24-10
          • 65086

          #5
          Pros only contest
          Nonpro only contest

          1 3*, 2 2*, 3 1* plays

          DO NOT MAKE IT BY UNITS WON...thats a line shopping, get lucky contest

          Beat someone, beat the bag, beat whoever...spread the wealth weekly better instead of the guy finding the +111 2star play
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          • gauchojake
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 09-17-10
            • 34103

            #6
            KYC

            More free plays

            Like a few have already said, the lotto ticket plus odds shit was ridiculous. It basically encourages multi accounts. They can just create a bunch of accounts and take shots each week and still cash even if only half.

            Announce rules/rule changes as late as possible to keep the angle shooters guessing.

            Ghost hunting during the off season. These clowns will be registering accounts year round and getting their post counts up during down times.

            Participation requirement. There are people on this board who literally add nothing, just take. Play every contest yet never post content. Whether that be social media or chitty room, I think it's something to be considered.
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            • RudyRuetigger
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-24-10
              • 65086

              #7
              i like that third party ID verification

              has to be a reputable site

              many will create ghosts in family members name...most wont steal their great grandmas ID card and scan it

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              • Chi_archie
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-22-08
                • 63165

                #8
                Pro only

                seems like most don't like the weekly prize structure. If you are going to make it bigger variance luck box contest for the top $ at least lower the prizes to amount that allows you to make bet point freeplays to the top 10% or top 100 whatever.

                I know you use the prizes at the end of contest as a dangling carrot for those that enter as non pro, to get them to go pro.

                but maybe have a separate non pro contest, and allow them to go PRO by a certain week like 8 or 10 and their record can transfer from the non pro contest, to the Pro contest and make them eligible for the bigger $ prizes
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                • ArunSh
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-24-07
                  • 6801

                  #9
                  Echo what others said above, pros only to help prevent ghosts/multi-accounting. Or if the goal is to encourage people to go pro, really reduce what nonpros can win (instead of 50% make it a lower %). No free rolling is the point! And even if they win something, those points/$ should go first into forcing them to going pro, better for them if they win later prizes anyway, and makes sure they have contributed equally to the site as others before they win anything further.

                  And yes, I preferred the format of Beat the Prick - as someone said above, the moment you lost one pick any given week, immediately lost interest since you could only win something going 6-0. Having a chance to win something going 3-2 was quite nice even if it wasn't something huge! So yeah I would use that format just having JimmytheBag or DjBigBoss or BigRagoo taking Prick's place (and renaming the contest appropriately!).
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                  • Optional
                    Administrator
                    • 06-10-10
                    • 60790

                    #10
                    A format that gives points prizes to more people each week. When a lot of people win points each week, it also drives other forum activity 7 days a week during football season.

                    Something that keeps players interested after 1 loss.

                    Base it on Action Points instead of units so there is no requirement to pick a +odds selection to have a chance of winning the week.

                    Bigger prize at end.

                    No cash prizes at all for non-pros, just points.
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                    • RudyRuetigger
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-24-10
                      • 65086

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Optional
                      A format that gives points prizes to more people each week.

                      Something that keeps players interested after 1 loss.

                      Base it on Action Points instead of units so there is no requirement to pick a +odds selection to have a chance of winning the week.

                      Bigger prize at end.

                      No cash prizes at all for non-pros, just points.
                      yes!














                      no joining the pro contest after week 8 or 10 like archie said

                      if you want to give them 3 or 4 weeks, then only that

                      its way too far along
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                      • Optional
                        Administrator
                        • 06-10-10
                        • 60790

                        #12
                        It can't be pro only if part of the reason for the big investment in it is to bring new users to the site.
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                        • RudyRuetigger
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 08-24-10
                          • 65086

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Optional
                          It can't be pro only if part of the reason for the big investment in it is to bring new users to the site.
                          two separate contests
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                          • Optional
                            Administrator
                            • 06-10-10
                            • 60790

                            #14
                            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                            two separate contests
                            Why would a non-pro decide to turn pro (and therefore be more likely to remain a regular long term user) if the contest was only for non-pros?

                            We want them in main contest and hopefully win a couple of thousand points and decide that is enough to tip them over into making a donation for the pro membership.



                            Seriously. There wont be a big prize if the contest does not generate new users, new pro members, and more site activity. Thats what makes it worth SBR spending the bucks on it.
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                            • 2ndchance
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-14-17
                              • 1056

                              #15
                              Nope
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                              • ArunSh
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-24-07
                                • 6801

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Optional
                                Base it on Action Points instead of units so there is no requirement to pick a +odds selection to have a chance of winning the week.
                                Originally posted by Optional
                                It can't be pro only if part of the reason for the big investment in it is to bring new users to the site.

                                Definitely like that first suggestion - felt kind of silly going through the choices and making sure to pick one + unit wager (a pick I often didn't really want/know about). But in order to win the week, that was a necessary thing to do. So yeah, I like the action points suggestion in that regard for deciding ties between folks who have the same record (and same result in the 2* pick).

                                As for bringing new users to the site - that's quite understandable. As I said, whatever they win though, the first $100 or first 3000 points (or a mix of the two if that ends up being possible, first $50 + 1500 points) should automatically go towards turning them pro. Only after they've won enough to turn themselves pro should anything go directly to their pocket. Given that (at least this year) they only won 50% of the prize, that would incentivize them even more perhaps to go pro early on rather than having to build up twice as much in winnings before automatically turning pro.
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                                • Hman
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-04-17
                                  • 21429

                                  #17
                                  I'm not sure how everyone else feels, but in any contest I've always been in favor of smaller weekly prizes, and larger year-end payouts
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                                  • 2ndchance
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-14-17
                                    • 1056

                                    #18
                                    There never going to make it non pros like op is saying that’s the reason they do it. Cut off can be sooner btp format way better though. I hate the one loss I didn’t win one thing and I came in 140 over all. More aggravating then fun can’t win unless perfect and then u gotta pick plus units to win anything good.
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                                    • Optional
                                      Administrator
                                      • 06-10-10
                                      • 60790

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ArunSh
                                      Definitely like that first suggestion - felt kind of silly going through the choices and making sure to pick one + unit wager (a pick I often didn't really want/know about). But in order to win the week, that was a necessary thing to do. So yeah, I like the action points suggestion in that regard for deciding ties between folks who have the same record (and same result in the 2* pick).

                                      As for bringing new users to the site - that's quite understandable. As I said, whatever they win though, the first $100 or first 3000 points (or a mix of the two if that ends up being possible, first $50 + 1500 points) should automatically go towards turning them pro. Only after they've won enough to turn themselves pro should anything go directly to their pocket. Given that (at least this year) they only won 50% of the prize, that would incentivize them even more perhaps to go pro early on rather than having to build up twice as much in winnings before automatically turning pro.
                                      No 2x pick. Just action points. Units would be the tie breaker but would rarely be needed, as it should be with a tie breaker used in a skill contest.


                                      maybe a points prize for anyone with positive action points each week... as a percentage of the total action points made over par by all entrants.

                                      That would solve the issue of keeping the contest interesting for most people through to the final pick each week.
                                      Last edited by Optional; 01-08-20, 02:13 PM.
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                                      • ArunSh
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-24-07
                                        • 6801

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Optional
                                        No 2x pick. Just action points. Units would be the tie breaker but would rarely be needed, as a tie breaker should be in a skill contest.
                                        Yeah fair enough. I've personally never liked the 2x pick myself, whatever the format, just figured it was here to stay. But yeah back in the days of BTP, and you needed a positive score to have any chance, I felt it hinged way too much on the 2x pick - I personally would prefer all the picks be equal weight.
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                                        • Optional
                                          Administrator
                                          • 06-10-10
                                          • 60790

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ArunSh

                                          Yeah fair enough. I've personally never liked the 2x pick myself, whatever the format, just figured it was here to stay. But yeah back in the days of BTP, and you needed a positive score to have any chance, I felt it hinged way too much on the 2x pick - I personally would prefer all the picks be equal weight.
                                          Being able to pick which spreads are most off would be more skillful capping wise, plus might help bettors think about their real bets differently.
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                                          • JAKEPEAVY21
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 03-11-11
                                            • 29223

                                            #22
                                            I echo a lot of the previous opinions. Make it possible to win something for not going 6-0 each week.
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                                            • 5mike5
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 09-21-11
                                              • 51842

                                              #23
                                              Bring back BTP

                                              And stop giving cash to free loaders
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                                              • pimike
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 03-23-08
                                                • 37139

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Optional
                                                Being able to pick which spreads are most off would be more skillful capping wise, plus might help bettors think about their real bets differently.
                                                Correct
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                                                • harthebar
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 12-09-11
                                                  • 15695

                                                  #25
                                                  I'm not sure how everyone else feels, but in any contest I've always been in favor of smaller weekly prizes, and larger year-end payouts. And some form of ptb so there is a incentive. Every week . Less payouts weekly bigger at end. Free play points weekly
                                                  8th place here.
                                                  Vortexx. If you left your winnings in the bit coin bank you would of made 500 more. I think. It was perfect timing
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                                                  • harthebar
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 12-09-11
                                                    • 15695

                                                    #26
                                                    There are a lot of great ideas out there. Bottom line. Is winning.
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                                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 08-24-10
                                                      • 65086

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                                      Being able to pick which spreads are most off would be more skillful capping wise, plus might help bettors think about their real bets differently.
                                                      Originally posted by pimike
                                                      Correct
                                                      incorrect

                                                      this would favor TOTAL bettors, in particular those betting OVER on close matchups in hopes that it goes to overtime

                                                      i know, chances are small but so are the chances of going 6-0 and hitting +unit plays on 2 or 3 games
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                                                      • Optional
                                                        Administrator
                                                        • 06-10-10
                                                        • 60790

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger



                                                        incorrect

                                                        this would favor TOTAL bettors, in particular those betting OVER on close matchups in hopes that it goes to overtime

                                                        i know, chances are small but so are the chances of going 6-0 and hitting +unit plays on 2 or 3 games
                                                        I think I prefer a small advantage to picking overs than having to pick a +odds game I don't really wish to pick to have a shot at winning.

                                                        17 weeks isn't going to be enough advantage to make much difference I dont think.


                                                        Or do you prefer units?
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                                                        • shadymcgrady
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 02-27-12
                                                          • 10036

                                                          #29
                                                          I had a few 5-1 or 5-0-1 weeks but never a 6-0. It was soul crushing
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                                                          • RudyRuetigger
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 08-24-10
                                                            • 65086

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Optional
                                                            Why would a non-pro decide to turn pro (and therefore be more likely to remain a regular long term user) if the contest was only for non-pros?

                                                            We want them in main contest and hopefully win a couple of thousand points and decide that is enough to tip them over into making a donation for the pro membership.



                                                            Seriously. There wont be a big prize if the contest does not generate new users, new pro members, and more site activity. Thats what makes it worth SBR spending the bucks on it.
                                                            I would love to know how many joined as a pro at the end of the cutoff for BTP all these years and the retention rate of them. id form a better opinion

                                                            my guess is, alot dont renew with their own 100, and i do have some proof of that

                                                            you get your 100 back immediately if you get to keep 3k points, you can easily make 3k points during the year. pro pays for itself easily
                                                            im watching guys and ghosts take away all the money from biggest contests of the year

                                                            hell, id rather you give it to bash members
                                                            what was it this year, $50k plus points?


                                                            ok so next year do 45k plus points and 5k plus points for nonpros
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                                                            • brian311
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 12-05-15
                                                              • 2700

                                                              #31
                                                              BTP format was fun!

                                                              +Rather have more places paid at end than weekly.
                                                              +Easier chances to hit freeplay. I guess I should have made my 2x against Jameis all season and his league leading pick 6s!
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                                                              • thechaoz
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 10-23-09
                                                                • 12155

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Optional
                                                                It can't be pro only if part of the reason for the big investment in it is to bring new users to the site.
                                                                I guess I just don't have the care or time to cheat, but how hard is it for somebody to make up 30 names, using a VPN on 30 different IPS, take shots and go pro with that account.

                                                                I agree with the free play thing cuz even when I went five-1 I never won.

                                                                you some sort of ID verification or third-party, providing name and address and phone number and a billing statement and ID.

                                                                It's not fair to all the svr pros and people who contribute to the site because we constantly seen on contributing numbers at the top of the charts
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                                                                • franklee168
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 03-06-11
                                                                  • 5544

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Where the hell is the prick? Miss that guy.
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                                                                  • Carseller4
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 10-22-09
                                                                    • 19627

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I like the contest just as it was.

                                                                    Except get rid of non-Pros after week 6.
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                                                                    • THE HITMAN
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 06-16-07
                                                                      • 2393

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I mention this, it seems, once a year. I would like the option of payouts to Paypal . At least your winnings will be/stay what they are...............I remember a couple of years ago, the 'coin was fluctuating, mostly downward after the contest. Geez, I was down double digits percentage-wise before I even withdrew it.
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