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  • stevenash
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    • 01-17-11
    • 65301

    #1
    Arizona/Hawaii thoughts?
    I think the games goes over the 73.5 total.
    Here's the question, the team total for Arizona is 42.
    Is Hawaii's defense that bad to give up 42 plus to the Wildcats?
  • iBetSo
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 11-12-18
    • 647

    #2
    Khalil Tate is the real deal. And reportedly healthy.
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    • stevenash
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      • 01-17-11
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      #3
      When 100 percent Tate is a beast.
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      • ThaTopMoron
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        • 04-30-10
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        #4
        will Hawaii come out on fire on offense first couple weeks like last season? is that coaches mentality?
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        • Sol Diablo
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          • 09-03-12
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          #5
          Originally posted by stevenash
          When 100 percent Tate is a beast.
          Tate is a bitch and a queer. Far from a beast. Healthy or not.
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          • firedawg
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            • 10-08-08
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            #6
            Originally posted by Sol Diablo
            Tate is a bitch and a queer. Far from a beast. Healthy or not.
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            • ThaTopMoron
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 04-30-10
              • 27019

              #7
              Originally posted by Sol Diablo
              Tate is a bitch and a queer. Far from a beast. Healthy or not.
              brady has done pretty well under the same circumstances
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              • jjgold
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                • 07-20-05
                • 388189

                #8
                Hawaii has some good players I’m gonna take them
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                • iBetSo
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 11-12-18
                  • 647

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sol Diablo
                  Tate is a bitch and a queer. Far from a beast. Healthy or not.
                  Lot of hate in your heart for a guy youve never met. not good for your health.
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                  • stevenash
                    Moderator
                    • 01-17-11
                    • 65301

                    #10
                    Originally posted by iBetSo
                    Lot of hate in your heart for a guy youve never met. not good for your health.
                    I hear ya, but it's a discussion thread and if that helps him get through the night so be it.
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                    • 2daBank
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                      • 01-26-09
                      • 88966

                      #11
                      Always been a fan of the Hawaii over degen special!!
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                      • stevenash
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                        • 01-17-11
                        • 65301

                        #12
                        ^
                        Love those red eye games that end at 4:30am east coast time.
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                        • lonegambler23
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                          • 06-22-16
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by iBetSo
                          Khalil Tate is the real deal. And reportedly healthy.
                          lol runners never prosper
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                          • 2daBank
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-26-09
                            • 88966

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sol Diablo
                            Tate is a bitch and a queer. Far from a beast. Healthy or not.
                            Damn. Angry much?
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                            • Sol Diablo
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                              • 09-03-12
                              • 489

                              #15
                              Originally posted by iBetSo
                              Lot of hate in your heart for a guy youve never met. not good for your health.
                              I don't hate bitches or queers.

                              I just know they don't make good football players.

                              Good luck backing a bitch queer.
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                              • stackz125
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                                • 01-03-16
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                                #16
                                When in doubt
                                Take the dog
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                                • Grits n' Gravy
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                                  • 06-10-10
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Sol Diablo
                                  Tate is a bitch and a queer. Far from a beast. Healthy or not.
                                  An asu alum. Great college. 600 sat score makes you smartest kid on campus.

                                  I don’t trust a Sumlin coached team in this spot to not do some dumb shit to screw cat backers.
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                                  • daddywarbux513
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 07-04-19
                                    • 37

                                    #18
                                    lay the points

                                    1 Hawaii had a very deceiving record last year, SOS was poor, and they lost the majority of their core

                                    2 If Tate is healthy (which he reportedly is) this is a prime national spot for him to show out and get in rhythm

                                    3 if there is One thing Sumlin loves to do (besides choke when it counts) is pour it on non Power 6 schools early in the season
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                                    • Flashmo
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-27-09
                                      • 1018

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Sol Diablo
                                      Tate is a bitch and a queer. Far from a beast. Healthy or not.
                                      Very well put Go Devils!
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                                      • jjgold
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                                        • 07-20-05
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                                        #20
                                        final pick took Hawaii +11
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                                        • Pickem2win
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 09-16-11
                                          • 978

                                          #21
                                          Teasing Florida to -.5 and Hawaii to +18
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                                          • Da Manster!
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-13-07
                                            • 17720

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by daddywarbux513
                                            lay the points

                                            1 Hawaii had a very deceiving record last year, SOS was poor, and they lost the majority of their core

                                            2 If Tate is healthy (which he reportedly is) this is a prime national spot for him to show out and get in rhythm

                                            3 if there is One thing Sumlin loves to do (besides choke when it counts) is pour it on non Power 6 schools early in the season
                                            totally wrong and incorrect...Hawaii has 18 returning starters back from last year...basically their whole team (both offense and defense)
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                                            • RangeFinder
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                                              • 10-27-16
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                                              #23
                                              Under 74 is the play
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                                              • pavyracer
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                                                • 04-12-07
                                                • 82531

                                                #24
                                                It will be close for a while and then Arizona will bust it wide open. Always be careful when the home team gets 12 points. Books are baiting you to take the inferior team.
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                                                • RangeFinder
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                                                  • 10-27-16
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                                                  #25
                                                  Arizona will be a much better defense than most people think.
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                                                  • qwertvt
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-04-09
                                                    • 1419

                                                    #26
                                                    Hawaii has 18 starters (9 on each side of the ball) returning this year.
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                                                    • stevenash
                                                      Moderator
                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                      • 65301

                                                      #27
                                                      I'm on the over, laying off the side.
                                                      Strange things happen in those Hawaii home games.
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                                                      • mike tyson35
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                                                        • 08-22-19
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                                                        #28
                                                        Iron mike predicts, zona by 24 points
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                                                        • 2daBank
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                                                          • 01-26-09
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Da Manster!
                                                          totally wrong and incorrect...Hawaii has 18 returning starters back from last year...basically their whole team (both offense and defense)
                                                          Lmao. The shit ppl will make up to act like they have a clue. So so sad. Thanks for clearly this up pal.
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                                                          • 2daBank
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                                                            • 01-26-09
                                                            • 88966

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Sol Diablo
                                                            I don't hate bitches or queers.

                                                            I just know they don't make good football players.

                                                            Good luck backing a bitch queer.
                                                            Kid ain’t half the bitch of some coward saying ignorant shit from safety of mommies basement. You a straight up punk. A worthless ass poster too, guess I’d be angry if I couldn’t afford the 100 bucks to go pro either.
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                                                            • NardVa
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                                                              • 10-02-07
                                                              • 8325

                                                              #31
                                                              Hawaii started the season last year cranking out two double digit upsets to begin the season. They do it again tonight.
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                                                              • asiagambler
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 07-23-17
                                                                • 6831

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by RangeFinder
                                                                Arizona will be a much better defense than most people think.
                                                                Jace Whittaker back after missing last year. One of the best cornerbacks in the PAC-12.

                                                                They also got some good trasnfers in to replace their DL.

                                                                They should be better but Kevin Sumlin and defense aren't two things I usually equate together. I did bet under too though. It's supposed to be windy around game time
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                                                                • Nostradam
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 05-05-15
                                                                  • 161

                                                                  #33
                                                                  FWIW, follow or fade, here's sherwood's opinion:


                                                                  Arizona @ HAWAII


                                                                  HAWAII +11 -110 over Arizona


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                                                                  Posted at 12:00 PM EST

                                                                  10:30 PM EST. The Hawaii Golden Warriors have one of the most unique home field advantages in all of college football. As Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard said in the Democratic Party Debate, the Hawaiian Islands are the most remote enclave in all of the United States. As a result, the visiting Arizona Wildcats will have to travel over 2,750 miles and across four time zones to play this game. While many may be quick to pull the trigger on Desert Swarm given their Power Five pedigree, the prospects of jet-lag, travel fatigue, and airing out the opening game kinks in a notably hostile environment make the ‘Cats a very dicey proposition to be laying this kind of lumber on the road.

                                                                  Outside of these intangibles working against the Wildcats, there are several other ingredients that make them not only prone to not covering, but perhaps vulnerable to an outright Week One upset. While most of the market will be salivating over Wildcat dual-threat quarterback Khalil Tate, who is nothing short of a Heisman-esque juggernaut when he brings his A-Game, we want to focus on the opposite. You see, Tate’s efforts can be easily undermined by Arizona’s notoriously porous defense that returns only six starters and finished 98th in the nation in scoring (32.6 points per game) in 2018. Most significantly, Desert Swarm’s passing defense was more comparable to a cloud of gnats, as they could easily be swatted away, giving up a bottom-of-the barrel 269.5 yards per game (121st in the FBS) in the preceding campaign. The Wildcats won one game on the road last year, against a horrible Oregon State squad. In its other four road games, Arizona was smoked by 28, 32 and 41 points in three of them.

                                                                  The Warriors return gunslinger quarterback Cole McDonald, who threw for nearly 4,000 yards last season on 36 touchdowns and just 10 interceptions. McDonald spearheads a Hawaii aerial attack that finished ninth in the country in passing (310.9 passing yards per game) in 2018 that also returns two key contributors and starters in wide receivers Jojo Ward and Cedric Byrd. This is a duo of wideouts that could both easily eclipse the 1,000-yard threshold in 2019. In 2018, Byrd and Ward combined for 130 receptions, 1835 receiving yards, and 18 touchdowns. This trio of terror along with the rest of the Warriors offense figure to counterpunch every time Arizona scores and then some. Hawaii is a seasoned lot whose older players experienced a 6-1 start last year with wins over Navy and Colorado State along with a near-miss against Army. Ironically, that 59-41 win over Navy last year saw the Alohas as an 11-point dog also. Hawaii is a Mountain West contender with some serious offensive weapons at every position group. This team won't feel out of place trying to get inside 11 points against an Arizona that is not worthy of being an out-of-conference road favorite priced in this range.

                                                                  One side note to this game is University of Hawaii linebacker Scheyenne Sanitoa died on July 4th. Sanitoa was 21 and no cause of death was released. University spokesman Derek Inouchi said the death did not happen on campus and that Sanitoa was not involved in any athletic department activities at the time of his death. According to Matlin, the football team met at the time to discuss Sanitoa's death. Campus counselors were present at the meeting and were available to the team at that time. This is a hugely motivating factor. The team will dedicate the game to their fallen teammate and that means a highly intense and emotional performance. Big overlay here.


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                                                                  • asiagambler
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                                                                    • 07-23-17
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Hawaii lost their leading receiver from last year to the NFL (Ursua). Let's see how Bird and Ward fare without him
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                                                                    • JacketFan81
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                                                                      • 10-28-17
                                                                      • 1743

                                                                      #35
                                                                      No way this game even sniffs 70+ points
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