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  • danshan11
    SBR MVP
    • 07-08-17
    • 4101

    #36
    also remember how the limit game works
    250 openers lose 96% lose
    1000 heat checkers 98% lose
    5000> open limits 99% lose
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    • danshan11
      SBR MVP
      • 07-08-17
      • 4101

      #37
      Originally posted by bettingman6
      I'm sorry but I don't believe you. I'd believe somebody who claimed to have a 70% ATS record before I believe somebody who claimed to accurately predict line movements 70% of the time.

      If I had to guess, the best anybody can do is beat the spread 56% of the time, and accurately predict line movements 52% or 53% of the time. I am of the opinion that beating the closing line is even harder than beating the spread.
      you can verify my claims just go to my picks thread and check the sides against oddsportal you can see clearly I do, but its ok I understand that you dont and that is OK but the claim is irrelevant but the points are valid.
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      • danshan11
        SBR MVP
        • 07-08-17
        • 4101

        #38
        here is my current NBA record

        <style type="text/css"><!--td {border: 1px solid #ccc;}br {mso-data-placement:same-cell;}--></style>
        W L P Win % CLV CLV + CLV -
        2/2/2019 92 98 3 48.42% 0.75% 82 58
        Sides 46 40 1 53.49% 1.13% 34 22
        Totals 46 58 2 44.23% 0.50% 48 36
        its about 61% on sides and about 58% overall, I have about 20 or so games I have not checked the value yet but this gives you an idea. and as you can see this does not guarantee success because of sample size AKA variance
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        • Haute-Savoie
          SBR Rookie
          • 01-15-19
          • 42

          #39
          Originally posted by danshan11
          you are using the wrong data to try and decide when a book will ban you.
          books have algos they use to ban people and most include, beating the closing line sharp betting, stale lines and more, wins and losses do not usually have a big role in the limiting or banning process. I also read they really dont dig on max bet live bettors who win at a high rate.
          Pinnacle who so called welcomes winners will not ban you they just wont let you withdrawal your winnings. They will reverse withdrawals (even when you followed their dumb withdrawal rules), and then they will happily put the withdrawal amount back into your Pinny account in hopes that you will lose it so they dont have to pay you out! Of course they lie and make excuses like they told me my bank refused my 3 withdrawals which was a bold face lie (talked to my bank there were no wire transfer attempts!). Just because Pinnacle sends you a email saying your withdrawal has been processed it has not! They just use that email to make themselves look professional. They are going downhill fast. When a sportsbook starts to use lying, stalling or consistently reversing withdrawal requests they are most likely in financial trouble! Be warned...
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          • Haute-Savoie
            SBR Rookie
            • 01-15-19
            • 42

            #40
            Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
            if you need to ask this question you have nothing to worry about being banned

            Agreed! Proved by yours truly who pretends they welcome winners Pinnacle SportsBook! What a crock of shit that slogan is like who on earth would believe that?...
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            • Alfa1234
              SBR MVP
              • 12-19-15
              • 2722

              #41
              Originally posted by Haute-Savoie
              Pinnacle who so called welcomes winners will not ban you they just wont let you withdrawal your winnings. They will reverse withdrawals (even when you followed their dumb withdrawal rules), and then they will happily put the withdrawal amount back into your Pinny account in hopes that you will lose it so they dont have to pay you out! Of course they lie and make excuses like they told me my bank refused my 3 withdrawals which was a bold face lie (talked to my bank there were no wire transfer attempts!). Just because Pinnacle sends you a email saying your withdrawal has been processed it has not! They just use that email to make themselves look professional. They are going downhill fast. When a sportsbook starts to use lying, stalling or consistently reversing withdrawal requests they are most likely in financial trouble! Be warned...
              Stop whinging and get your own house in order. Pinnacle always pays without skipping a beat, they don't care if you won even if it was a few hundred k.
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              • eaglesfan371
                SBR MVP
                • 01-08-19
                • 4079

                #42
                I’m curious to see what will happen to my account soon in the West Virginia app. I was up $2000 before this week, now up $3700. Each $400 bet I placed this week moved their line 5-10 cents unlike before. They rejected a $300 bet I attempted to place. They review all wagers over $200 and with West Virginia being one of the poorest states, I don’t imagine they take many big bets.

                Hoping they keep taking my action to help them learn the industry better. I asked for a supervisor to email me their overnight limits, he responded “were not open during the night”. He had no idea what I was talking about.

                The company who runs the book is a real estate company, what the heck are they doing in linesmaking.

                Found three arbs just this week of 10 cents or more.
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                • Microphone
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-08-08
                  • 2950

                  #43
                  Originally posted by bettingman6
                  Baseball is the sport that's easiest to beat. In part because so few people bet on it, so sportsbooks don't always do a great job at setting the lines.

                  Anyway, I've never bet on baseball before, but I plan to once the baseball season starts.
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                  • Barrakuda
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 02-28-18
                    • 786

                    #44
                    Originally posted by danshan11
                    here is my current NBA record

                    <style type="text/css"><!--td {border: 1px solid #ccc;}br {mso-data-placement:same-cell;}--></style>
                    W L P Win % CLV CLV + CLV -
                    2/2/2019 92 98 3 48.42% 0.75% 82 58
                    Sides 46 40 1 53.49% 1.13% 34 22
                    Totals 46 58 2 44.23% 0.50% 48 36
                    its about 61% on sides and about 58% overall, I have about 20 or so games I have not checked the value yet but this gives you an idea. and as you can see this does not guarantee success because of sample size AKA variance
                    How are you measuring CLV? Are all your CLV+ games ones that you could have bought back for a profit?
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                    • Barrakuda
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 02-28-18
                      • 786

                      #45
                      Bovada's quick hook is legendary. This from a few weeks ago:

                      We're writing this message to inform you our Book Managers, after careful deliberation and investigation, have decided to adjust your wagering limits which may vary from market to market. We assure you we didn't make this decision in haste. Should this decision mean we do not meet your needs as a Sportsbook, please contact our Customer Service Department and we'll be happy to process a withdrawal for your current balance.




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