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  • stevenash
    Moderator
    • 01-17-11
    • 65371

    #1
    Mauer retires
    How close is he to the HoF?

    Frankly Mattingly is closer.
  • JayandCaitti
    SBR Sharp
    • 11-09-18
    • 315

    #2
    I'd say he's in.
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      Mattingly never

      Terrible clutch player and team
      Lost
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      • kingdom
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 07-25-10
        • 10099

        #4
        wasn't a fan of giving him mvp that year. they had him and tex over jeter. jeter best player in baseball but not a stat stuffer. should have won at least one mvp, but its all about the stats.
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        • Chi_archie
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-22-08
          • 63165

          #5
          greatest High School Athlete of the modern era


          not pro mlb hall of fame though
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          • El Nino
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 05-03-12
            • 18426

            #6
            Great player, not HOF though. I'll never forget that 2006 team. Morneau was the AL MVP, Mauer was the AL batting Champ, Santana the AL Cy Young. Liriano 3rd in AL Rookie of the Year voting, Nathan 5th in AL Cy Young voting as a closer and they were promptly swept by the Oakland Athletics.
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            • TommieGunshot
              SBR MVP
              • 03-27-12
              • 1596

              #7
              Similar games played, ops, OPS+ to Mattingly -- the Gold Glove catcher clearly had a better career.

              He is easily the best retired catcher not in the Hall-of-Fame, so he is definitely deserving, but probably won't make it.
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              • The Giant
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-21-12
                • 21480

                #8
                Was this guy a user?

                Strange career numbers.
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                • MinnesotaFats
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-18-10
                  • 14758

                  #9
                  Originally posted by The Giant
                  Was this guy a user?

                  Strange career numbers.
                  2 careers really.... in the dome and not in the dome. Numbers speak for themselves and that is why hes not HOF.

                  Probably the most leverage a guy will ever have that MVP season regarding his contract he never lived up to.

                  Had he stayed a catcher he'd be HOF but with 1/3 his games not behind the dish his .300 average isnt so special among the others out there.
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                  • Heltah Skeltah
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-05-17
                    • 3499

                    #10
                    It definitely helps him that his was a catcher when putting up good numbers. If he gets in I think that will have lot to do wth it
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                    • The Giant
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-21-12
                      • 21480

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                      2 careers really.... in the dome and not in the dome. Numbers speak for themselves and that is why hes not HOF.

                      Probably the most leverage a guy will ever have that MVP season regarding his contract he never lived up to.

                      Had he stayed a catcher he'd be HOF but with 1/3 his games not behind the dish his .300 average isnt so special among the others out there.
                      I know what you mean about a guy having two different careers. I'm an Angels fan, and suffering through watching the era of Albert Pujols...ugh. He's become completely irrelevant, I wish he would just retire.

                      I'm not sure about Mauer having no chance at the Hall of Fame. Plenty of pundits are saying the exact opposite. I haven't really delved into the numbers.
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                      • CWD
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-22-12
                        • 7665

                        #12
                        Originally posted by The Giant
                        I know what you mean about a guy having two different careers. I'm an Angels fan, and suffering through watching the era of Albert Pujols...ugh. He's become completely irrelevant, I wish he would just retire.

                        I'm not sure about Mauer having no chance at the Hall of Fame. Plenty of pundits are saying the exact opposite. I haven't really delved into the numbers.
                        Are u dodgers or angels fan ?

                        Plz dont say both
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                        • The Giant
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-21-12
                          • 21480

                          #13
                          Originally posted by CWD
                          Are u dodgers or angels fan ?

                          Plz dont say both
                          I want to see both teams in the World Series, with the Angels winning in game seven.
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                          • CWD
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-22-12
                            • 7665

                            #14
                            Originally posted by The Giant
                            I want to see both teams in the World Series, with the Angels winning in game seven.
                            well u got that in 02 im still not over that WS
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                            • The Giant
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-21-12
                              • 21480

                              #15
                              Originally posted by CWD
                              well u got that in 02 im still not over that WS
                              I was at game seven. And at game two. I missed game six.

                              You guys have won three since. Quit your crying.
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                              • CWD
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-22-12
                                • 7665

                                #16
                                Originally posted by The Giant
                                I was at game seven. And at game two. I missed game six.

                                You guys have won three since. Quit your crying.
                                i was at 5

                                those 3 titles mean dick to me but im over it now thx
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                                • The Giant
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-21-12
                                  • 21480

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by CWD
                                  i was at 5

                                  those 3 titles mean dick to me but im over it now thx
                                  Why don't they mean anything? Because you've gotten older and discovered gambling?
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                                  • stevenash
                                    Moderator
                                    • 01-17-11
                                    • 65371

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by CWD
                                    well u got that in 02 im still not over that WS
                                    Giants averaged like 7 runs a game that WS and still lost.

                                    Kind of like Maz and the Pirates beating the NYY
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                                    • CWD
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-22-12
                                      • 7665

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by The Giant
                                      Why don't they mean anything? Because you've gotten older and discovered gambling?
                                      thats why youre doctor phil

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                                      • GUMMO77
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 08-23-10
                                        • 9294

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by El Nino
                                        Great player, not HOF though. I'll never forget that 2006 team. Morneau was the AL MVP, Mauer was the AL batting Champ, Santana the AL Cy Young. Liriano 3rd in AL Rookie of the Year voting, Nathan 5th in AL Cy Young voting as a closer and they were promptly swept by the Oakland Athletics.
                                        Mauer made $400,000 that year and Morneau $385,000
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                                        • DroopyDog
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-03-16
                                          • 1255

                                          #21
                                          Just a truly overrated and vastly overpaid player.
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                                          • opie1988
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 09-12-10
                                            • 23429

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by The Giant
                                            I want to see both teams in the World Series, with the Angels winning in game seven.
                                            This is fukkin disgusting. How in the FUKK could anyone claim to be an Angels and a Dodgers fan?? Jesus.

                                            These hoes ain’t loyal. Fukk this clown.
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                                            • lonegambler23
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 06-22-16
                                              • 9760

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by DroopyDog
                                              Just a truly overrated and vastly overpaid player.
                                              droopy give us an update.
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                                              • MinnesotaFats
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-18-10
                                                • 14758

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by The Giant
                                                I know what you mean about a guy having two different careers. I'm an Angels fan, and suffering through watching the era of Albert Pujols...ugh. He's become completely irrelevant, I wish he would just retire.

                                                I'm not sure about Mauer having no chance at the Hall of Fame. Plenty of pundits are saying the exact opposite. I haven't really delved into the numbers.
                                                Yup... thou AP still hits hrs he just isnt on base much anymore. Very 1 dimensional.

                                                Since 2013 move to 1st base Mauer is about a .270 hitter, this represents 1/3 his career and 5 of the 6 seasons at Target Field.

                                                Prior, while in the dome and catching, he was a .340 hitter and had he maintained some semblance of OBP if not BA similar to those years he'd be a HOF however it is abundantly clear his style of hitting the ball on the ground and opposite field was greatly aided by the speed of the turf versus the grass.

                                                Really cant imagine another player outside of the bombers that come out of Colorado that are reliant upon a stadium for stats.
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                                                • brock
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-07-08
                                                  • 8169

                                                  #25
                                                  I watched him with anticipation in 2010 after a huge contact.
                                                  9 home runs. Disappointment.
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                                                  • El Nino
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 05-03-12
                                                    • 18426

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by GUMMO77
                                                    Mauer made $400,000 that year and Morneau $385,000
                                                    Mauer made $217 million for his career after 2006.

                                                    Morneau made $96 million for his career after 2006.

                                                    I'd say they both did alright.
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                                                    • GUMMO77
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 08-23-10
                                                      • 9294

                                                      #27
                                                      Indeed
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                                                      • MinnesotaFats
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 12-18-10
                                                        • 14758

                                                        #28
                                                        It might be safe to say that the Mauer contract ruined the Twins for a decade, maybe more.

                                                        I dont know if that plays into national sentiment but locally it's a sore subject.

                                                        Many pieces of that nucleus and many youngsters passed by, FA busts and mediocre records that mgmt just couldn't afford to pull off a late season trade for $$$ reasons....

                                                        Would MN have been a better club w Pyrszinski at catcher or Ramos??
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                                                        • Watergate
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-16-12
                                                          • 1261

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by DroopyDog
                                                          Just a truly overrated and vastly overpaid player.
                                                          Bingo!
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                                                          • stealthyburrito
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 05-12-09
                                                            • 21562

                                                            #30
                                                            No way a HoFer

                                                            Solid, not great career. Had 2 exceptional seasons.
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                                                            • gojetsgomoxies
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-04-12
                                                              • 4222

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                              greatest High School Athlete of the modern era
                                                              Ronald Curry
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                                                              • clockwise1965
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 10-01-13
                                                                • 6753

                                                                #32
                                                                Bobby Bowden said "Mauer is the best high school QB I've ever seen".

                                                                Mauer was a 5 star recruit in football. Absolutely he chose baseball.
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                                                                • pavyracer
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 04-12-07
                                                                  • 82624

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                  How close is he to the HoF?

                                                                  Frankly Mattingly is closer.
                                                                  He made it.
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                                                                  • DrunkHorseplayer
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 05-15-10
                                                                    • 7719

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Never again should anyone say "he has no chance" when talking about any player's chances for the HOF; the Hall is starting to turn into a participation trophy.
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