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**chico2663** · 06-16-16, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Brace yourself for major tax increases in the near future.. Only way to deal with that huge debt.. Cutting back on welfare and other freebies will never happen under the Obama/Hillary administration..

Damn shame that Bush started 2 unfunded wars. Now they call social security an" entitlement" or a "ponzi scheme" but they had no trouble stealing 2.7 trillion dollars from it for their pet projects.I had a paper route in 1975 at age of 12 that they started taking money out of it and have worked my whole life except football and baseball season in high school. Even worked in college because Reagan stopped paying for military benefits for school. It is bullshit that when my generation is hitting where we can use it that they want to take it away.

**d2bets** · 06-16-16, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

and you are an expert? How so?

You do realize Trump got more votes in the primaries than any republican in history? Running against 16 others and several with and experienced political staff and "ground game".

Despite all that, he won. Big. With a small efficient staff and a fraction of the cost as his competitors. Isn't that what you want from a president? You have been sadly duped into believing things that aren't true.

You continue to underestimate him which is fine with me but calling him a total amateur just makes you look ~~silly~~ sillier.

Primaries:General Election as Little League:Major League Baseball

**DwightShrute** · 06-16-16, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

Primaries:General Election as Little League:Major League Baseball

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**chico2663** · 06-16-16, 03:00 PM

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General Election: Trump vs. Clinton	Rasmussen Reports	Clinton 44, Trump 39	Clinton +5
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton	Reuters/Ipsos	Clinton 41, Trump 32	Clinton +9
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein	Reuters/Ipsos	Clinton 39, Trump 29, Johnson 6, Stein 4	Clinton +10
Virginia: Trump vs. Clinton	PPP (D)	Clinton 48, Trump 45	Clinton +3
Virginia: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein	PPP (D)	Clinton 42, Trump 39, Johnson 6, Stein 2	Clinton +3

**chico2663** · 06-16-16, 03:01 PM

You really think the republican part is gonna put up with the orangatan?

**eidolon** · 06-16-16, 03:39 PM

people aren't going to vote this year. Will be the lowest showing in 50 years.

I personally can't, and won't, choose between a Douche and a Turd.

**mikewlgm** · 06-16-16, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by eidolon

people aren't going to vote this year. Will be the lowest showing in 50 years.

I personally can't, and won't, choose between a Douche and a Turd.

**chico2663** · 06-16-16, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by eidolon

people aren't going to vote this year. Will be the lowest showing in 50 years.

I personally can't, and won't, choose between a Douche and a Turd.

Well don't be mad when we are flushed. The choices are bad.

**Kermit** · 06-16-16, 05:03 PM

Nothing like using a tragedy to make it all about your cause.

**PittsburghPlayer** · 06-16-16, 07:03 PM

this is "classic"

to those that believe I support the kunt...

think twice...

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**bettilimbroke999** · 06-16-16, 07:06 PM

Originally posted by chico2663

Damn shame that Bush started 2 unfunded wars. Now they call social security an" entitlement" or a "ponzi scheme" but they had no trouble stealing 2.7 trillion dollars from it for their pet projects.I had a paper route in 1975 at age of 12 that they started taking money out of it and have worked my whole life except football and baseball season in high school. Even worked in college because Reagan stopped paying for military benefits for school. It is bullshit that when my generation is hitting where we can use it that they want to take it away.

We'd have just borrowed the money from China anyway and SS is a ponzi scheme....just telling ppl oh it's funded well that's half-true its funded with US debt but that's like me borrowing 10 million dollars and saying don't worry your money is safe as can be it's totally funded bc you got a 10 million IOU from me...but at the same time I'm in debt for a 100 million to everyone else and spending 10 mil a year more than I make! We're running a 2 trillion dollar deficit and we OWE 20 trillion already...I mean the interest payment on that debt even at the historically low rates of today is 500 billion a year AND we pay that 500 billion WHILE BORROWING 2 TRILLION each year...which means we really have a 1.5 TRILLION deficit and have to borrow another 1/2 a TRILLION to pay the INTEREST on our past debts.

Look there's 2 ways the government makes money (REMEMBER THE GOVERNMENT DESPITE ALL ITS EMPLOYEES IS NOT A BUSINESS!!!!)...they either take it directly away from the American ppl in the form of taxes or they borrow it by issuing bonds....that's it...very simple...when we inevitably default that's going to eliminate one of the 2 ways we pay for our ridiculously out of control budget...the federal government takes in 3.3 trillion a year in taxes and currently BORROWS 2 trillion MORE per year....we borrow 60% as much as we collect in taxes....you would have to raise federal income taxes 60% JUST TO STAY 20 TRILLION IN DEBT! At some point you just gotta be reasonable and say hey we cant spend 2 trillion more than we take in folks...we can raise taxes a little but Congress is clearly not going to agree to a psychotic 60% raise in taxes....well California might but no other state is that retarded.

Trump is a necessary evil...we gotta get these bland corporate puppets out of Washington and get ppl in there who will give you the straight dope and not be politically correct bc politically correct means you dont offend ppl and telling them this country will default on its debt and SS has been plundered and has no funding whatsoever is going to make them mad....that could cost you votes bc most of the American public is blind due to all this "politically correct" bullshit...sometimes you need ppl to tell you how things really are instead of just bullshitting you while they make millions from their corporate owners and lobbyists.

We are going to have to significantly increase taxes AND get the federal budget under control to deal with the overspending by GWB and the INFUCKINGSANE overspending by Obama which tripled the national debt in 7 years in the 2000s....continuing along the current path will prove disastrous.

**JIBBBY** · 06-16-16, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by chico2663

Damn shame that Bush started 2 unfunded wars. Now they call social security an" entitlement" or a "ponzi scheme" but they had no trouble stealing 2.7 trillion dollars from it for their pet projects.I had a paper route in 1975 at age of 12 that they started taking money out of it and have worked my whole life except football and baseball season in high school. Even worked in college because Reagan stopped paying for military benefits for school. It is bullshit that when my generation is hitting where we can use it that they want to take it away.

That's exactly what Trump said and was preaching from the very start....

If you're gonna do battle in a foreign Country the least you can do is get paid in oil or money for your efforts.. You liberate the Country and get trillions in debt, how stupid is that?.. Now you have Isis on top of that... What a waste!!!!..

By the way Isis takes over land then taxes the people and takes the oil.. They got money coming out of their asses now and are able to pay for more Isis soldiers because of it.... Just saying... This entire middle east crap makes me upset thinking about it..

Guarantee Russia isn't going in debt sticking their noses in Syria..

**bettilimbroke999** · 06-16-16, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

That's exactly what Trump said and was preaching from the very start....

If you're gonna do battle in a foreign Country the least you can do is get paid in oil or money for your efforts.. You liberate the Country and get trillions in debt, how stupid is that?.. Now you have Isis on top of that... What a waste!!!!..

By the way Isis takes over land then taxes the people and takes the oil.. They got money coming out of their asses now and are able to pay for more Isis soldiers because of it.... Just saying... This entire middle east crap makes me upset thinking about it..

Guarantee Russia isn't going in debt sticking their noses in Syria..

Amen...look Iraq and the Muslim world hates your guts and wants to kill you anyway...if you spend 5 trillion and destroy those terrorists take 20 trillion from them...to the victor go the spoils...if you are willing to go to war with a country and destroy them then take that oil...dont just leave it for ISIS. Do you think Rome just annihilated places and then left broke...penetrate NO they walked out with everything of value that country had

**PittsburghPlayer** · 06-16-16, 08:03 PM

saying...

if we were an organized terrorist nation...

USA

we could defeat these cokksukkers...

but, it is ten or twenty years too late, so...

here we are...

**PittsburghPlayer** · 06-16-16, 08:07 PM

by "organized", I mean that they should have told us the truth.

The USA was "founded" by terrorism...

some of you fukks are pathetic, thinking we can bring this dump back!!

**JIBBBY** · 06-16-16, 11:11 PM

^^^Voting for Trump and not Hillary would be a good start..

Trump keeps it simple in speech and runs his mouth in hard truth at times which helps and hurts.. Frightens alot of voters with what he says...

I actually don't think Trump is gonna beat out Hillary unless he really pulls the rabbit out of the hat down the stretch here.. The Anti Trump media blitz with all that Democratic funding is about to start..

Bottom line though is this -

Trump wants Mexico to pay for the wall and limit illegal immigration and terrorist threats and that's not a bad thing, he wants to straighten out China and have fair trade which is not a bad thing, Trump wants America to get compensated in warfare which is a great thing, he wants a temporary ban on Muslims coming into America which is a safe thing, he wants to make America great again like we all want..

Vote trump or your taxes will go way up in the future or this Nation will fold in debt.. Hillary I don't think can straighten out these things I'm posting about..

Remember Trump wasn't raised and or groomed to be a politician and won't ever talk like one..... That helps and hurts him...

**The Kraken** · 06-16-16, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

^^^Voting for Trump and not Hillary would be a good start..

Trump keeps it simple in speech and runs his mouth in hard truth at times which helps and hurts.. Frightens alot of voters with what he says...

I actually don't think Trump is gonna beat out Hillary unless he really pulls the rabbit out of the hat down the stretch here.. The Anti Trump media blitz with all that Democratic funding is about to start..

Bottom line though is this -

Trump wants Mexico to pay for the wall and limit illegal immigration and terrorist threats and that's not a bad thing, he wants to straighten out China and have fair trade which is not a bad thing, Trump wants America to get compensated in warfare which is a great thing, he wants a temporary ban on Muslims coming into America which is a safe thing, he wants to make America great again like we all want..

Vote trump or your taxes will go way up in the future or this Nation will fold in debt.. Hillary I don't think can straighten out these things I'm posting about..

Remember Trump wasn't raised and or groomed to be a politician and won't ever talk like one..... That helps and hurts him...

Trump has less than a 20% chance of winning, why waste a vote on him?

Vote for Hilary, join the winning side JIBBY

**DwightShrute** · 06-16-16, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

^^^Voting for Trump and not Hillary would be a good start..

Trump keeps it simple in speech and runs his mouth in hard truth at times which helps and hurts.. Frightens alot of voters with what he says...

I actually don't think Trump is gonna beat out Hillary unless he really pulls the rabbit out of the hat down the stretch here.. The Anti Trump media blitz with all that Democratic funding is about to start..

Bottom line though is this -

Trump wants Mexico to pay for the wall and limit illegal immigration and terrorist threats and that's not a bad thing, he wants to straighten out China and have fair trade which is not a bad thing, Trump wants America to get compensated in warfare which is a great thing, he wants a temporary ban on Muslims coming into America which is a safe thing, he wants to make America great again like we all want..

Vote trump or your taxes will go way up in the future or this Nation will fold in debt.. Hillary I don't think can straighten out these things I'm posting about..

Remember Trump wasn't raised and or groomed to be a politician and won't ever talk like one..... That helps and hurts him...

you have the gift of critical thinking. Congrats.

America called 911 and Trump answered the phone.

**JIBBBY** · 06-16-16, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by The Kraken

Trump has less than a 20% chance of winning, why waste a vote on him?

Vote for Hilary, join the winning side JIBBY

Well they said that when Trump first started running also. Trump proved everyone wrong and won the Rep Nom.. Trump is a wild card and I'm sure he will give Hillary a solid run for her money in the end....

Trump gets my vote sorry pal... I voted for Obama and am not happy with how weak he is as our commander and chief.. Really soft and walks on egg shells... Hillary is tougher then Obama but I don't think she is up for the job like Trump is..

**habitualwinning** · 06-17-16, 01:15 AM

I don't support either candidate but to say Trump has zero chance to win is asinine. This election, like most of them, will come down to a handful of swing states. Whoever wins the bulk or right combination of major swing states as Pennsylvania, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin and Colorado, wins the election. That's all there is to it, it's not that complicated. If it were purely based on popular vote, then Hillary might run away with it but since we have the Electoral College it's going to be close. I have a feeling this election in particular will be very close with possibly less than three remaining swing states deciding the outcome.

**chico2663** · 06-17-16, 02:18 AM

Originally posted by bettilimbroke999

We'd have just borrowed the money from China anyway and SS is a ponzi scheme....just telling ppl oh it's funded well that's half-true its funded with US debt but that's like me borrowing 10 million dollars and saying don't worry your money is safe as can be it's totally funded bc you got a 10 million IOU from me...but at the same time I'm in debt for a 100 million to everyone else and spending 10 mil a year more than I make! We're running a 2 trillion dollar deficit and we OWE 20 trillion already...I mean the interest payment on that debt even at the historically low rates of today is 500 billion a year AND we pay that 500 billion WHILE BORROWING 2 TRILLION each year...which means we really have a 1.5 TRILLION deficit and have to borrow another 1/2 a TRILLION to pay the INTEREST on our past debts.

Look there's 2 ways the government makes money (REMEMBER THE GOVERNMENT DESPITE ALL ITS EMPLOYEES IS NOT A BUSINESS!!!!)...they either take it directly away from the American ppl in the form of taxes or they borrow it by issuing bonds....that's it...very simple...when we inevitably default that's going to eliminate one of the 2 ways we pay for our ridiculously out of control budget...the federal government takes in 3.3 trillion a year in taxes and currently BORROWS 2 trillion MORE per year....we borrow 60% as much as we collect in taxes....you would have to raise federal income taxes 60% JUST TO STAY 20 TRILLION IN DEBT! At some point you just gotta be reasonable and say hey we cant spend 2 trillion more than we take in folks...we can raise taxes a little but Congress is clearly not going to agree to a psychotic 60% raise in taxes....well California might but no other state is that retarded.

Trump is a necessary evil...we gotta get these bland corporate puppets out of Washington and get ppl in there who will give you the straight dope and not be politically correct bc politically correct means you dont offend ppl and telling them this country will default on its debt and SS has been plundered and has no funding whatsoever is going to make them mad....that could cost you votes bc most of the American public is blind due to all this "politically correct" bullshit...sometimes you need ppl to tell you how things really are instead of just bullshitting you while they make millions from their corporate owners and lobbyists.

We are going to have to significantly increase taxes AND get the federal budget under control to deal with the overspending by GWB and the INFUCKINGSANE overspending by Obama which tripled the national debt in 7 years in the 2000s....continuing along the current path will prove disastrous.

I never asked the govt. to take social security out of my first check in 1975. I never asked to be paying 7500 a year each year for the last25 years. When you are self employed you pay both companies and your taxes. For you to call it a ponzi schem shows HOW STUPID YOU ARE. If you put money in the bank does the bank get to tell you sorry we spent all your money. Let some dipshit tell our seniors that they have paid into something but are not going to get the benefit from it. Now if you buy a house or car or bubblegum than you have to pay for it. w is the first president in the history of the U.S.A that went to war without. asking for money from congress. His father asked congress for money. the money appropriated for the military in the budget is for a free standing service that is not at war.Bullets cost money. Where do you think that money came from. It was the surplus money that they have taxed most people on. Butwhat about the people who pay into social security that have no children and die? Where does that money go? Paul ryans dad was dead so he got his social security but now wants to cut it. go figure when he grew up they received social security until they graduated from college but that loophole has closed.

**chico2663** · 06-17-16, 02:19 AM

Upon receiving his father's Social Security, his focus on academics became much stronger and he used the finances to pay his way through college. But the significance of Paul Ryan's relationship with his father is not solely defined by his death. Ryan said that while growing up, he wasn't particularly close to his father, especially during the last two years of his life. In a 2014 interview with the Associated Press, he said that his father struggled with alcoholism, an addiction that affected the entire family.

**chico2663** · 06-17-16, 02:21 AM

PIECE OF SHIT got the govt to pay his college for poor people and lived off social security. He graduated from where i did and friends kid was his r.a.

**chico2663** · 06-17-16, 02:26 AM

Originally posted by bettilimbroke999

We'd have just borrowed the money from China anyway and SS is a ponzi scheme....just telling ppl oh it's funded well that's half-true its funded with US debt but that's like me borrowing 10 million dollars and saying don't worry your money is safe as can be it's totally funded bc you got a 10 million IOU from me...but at the same time I'm in debt for a 100 million to everyone else and spending 10 mil a year more than I make! We're running a 2 trillion dollar deficit and we OWE 20 trillion already...I mean the interest payment on that debt even at the historically low rates of today is 500 billion a year AND we pay that 500 billion WHILE BORROWING 2 TRILLION each year...which means we really have a 1.5 TRILLION deficit and have to borrow another 1/2 a TRILLION to pay the INTEREST on our past debts.

Look there's 2 ways the government makes money (REMEMBER THE GOVERNMENT DESPITE ALL ITS EMPLOYEES IS NOT A BUSINESS!!!!)...they either take it directly away from the American ppl in the form of taxes or they borrow it by issuing bonds....that's it...very simple...when we inevitably default that's going to eliminate one of the 2 ways we pay for our ridiculously out of control budget...the federal government takes in 3.3 trillion a year in taxes and currently BORROWS 2 trillion MORE per year....we borrow 60% as much as we collect in taxes....you would have to raise federal income taxes 60% JUST TO STAY 20 TRILLION IN DEBT! At some point you just gotta be reasonable and say hey we cant spend 2 trillion more than we take in folks...we can raise taxes a little but Congress is clearly not going to agree to a psychotic 60% raise in taxes....well California might but no other state is that retarded.

Trump is a necessary evil...we gotta get these bland corporate puppets out of Washington and get ppl in there who will give you the straight dope and not be politically correct bc politically correct means you dont offend ppl and telling them this country will default on its debt and SS has been plundered and has no funding whatsoever is going to make them mad....that could cost you votes bc most of the American public is blind due to all this "politically correct" bullshit...sometimes you need ppl to tell you how things really are instead of just bullshitting you while they make millions from their corporate owners and lobbyists.

We are going to have to significantly increase taxes AND get the federal budget under control to deal with the overspending by GWB and the INFUCKINGSANE overspending by Obama which tripled the national debt in 7 years in the 2000s....continuing along the current path will prove disastrous.

But then again you use the site but can't afford to help it out by donating $100. Which is tax deductible is you are using long form but I doubt you do.

**chico2663** · 06-17-16, 02:32 AM

Trump has bankrupt more little businesses by not paying them what he ordered from them BUT he is gonna make us great.
Trump hasn't paid personal taxes in ever.But he is gonna make us great
Trump has sued or been sued 350 times but he i.g.m.u.g
Trump has had to buy atlantic city casinos because he needed the companies portion of the pension plan to keep his company afloat.But he i.g.m.u.g.a.
Trump admitted he loves the uniformed and stupid. If you are on here rooting for him I would have to assume you qualify.

**chico2663** · 06-17-16, 02:37 AM

**chico2663** · 06-17-16, 02:40 AM

**chico2663** · 06-17-16, 02:41 AM

**TheMoneyShot** · 06-17-16, 03:14 AM

Originally posted by habitualwinning

I don't support either candidate but to say Trump has zero chance to win is asinine. This election, like most of them, will come down to a handful of swing states. Whoever wins the bulk or right combination of major swing states as Pennsylvania, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin and Colorado, wins the election. That's all there is to it, it's not that complicated. If it were purely based on popular vote, then Hillary might run away with it but since we have the Electoral College it's going to be close. I have a feeling this election in particular will be very close with possibly less than three remaining swing states deciding the outcome.

This is an excellent post.

And in my opinion... judging how pissed off some Michigan folks are.... Trump could win Michigan. I can also see Trump winning Ohio and also Florida. If Trump can win all 3.... look out.

**manny24** · 06-17-16, 05:28 AM

if OJ simpson runs as independent it might pull the minorities and heisman votes away from Clinton

**ByeShea** · 06-17-16, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by chico2663

Not that you can find a video or document of him saying that or anything.

I'll also just add that Fox News became a widespread focal point of liberal ire only after the 2000 election, when they were desperate to pin Gore's loss on someone or something non-Democratic.

The more authentic sounding fictitious quote from the late 90s would have referenced talk radio or simply Rush Limbaugh, who was on all radars back then.

Oh yeah, this thread is also about the ISIS guy who murdered 49 people in Orlando. He had ties to Islamic fundamentalism and his father, not even one day later, told the public that gays deserved death according to the Koran.

I see some parallels between you talking Ryan & Social Security in this thread and Obama talking AR-15 bans (automatic weaponry not used in Orlandom btw) & Trump in the aftermath where a homegrown Islamic terrorist slaughtered innocents in a gay disco - diversionary talk to avoid some tough truths.

**ACoochy** · 06-17-16, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by ByeShea

Not that you can find a video or document of him saying that or anything.

I'll also just add that Fox News became a widespread focal point of liberal ire only after the 2000 election, when they were desperate to pin Gore's loss on someone or something non-Democratic.

The more authentic sounding fictitious quote from the late 90s would have referenced talk radio or simply Rush Limbaugh, who was on all radars back then.

Oh yeah, this thread is also about the ISIS guy who murdered 49 people in Orlando. He had ties to Islamic fundamentalism and his father, not even one day later, told the public that gays deserved death according to the Koran.

I see some parallels between you talking Ryan & Social Security in this thread and Obama talking AR-15 bans (automatic weaponry not used in Orlandom btw) & Trump in the aftermath where a homegrown Islamic terrorist slaughtered innocents in a gay disco - diversionary talk to avoid some tough truths.

Hey from recollection thats the 3rd time ive seen that meme of Trump so using Trump's own logic if you tell a lie and repeat 3 times then it becomes truth...

Sorry pal, going by your boys rules here...

**d2bets** · 06-17-16, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by ByeShea

Not that you can find a video or document of him saying that or anything.

I'll also just add that Fox News became a widespread focal point of liberal ire only after the 2000 election, when they were desperate to pin Gore's loss on someone or something non-Democratic.

The more authentic sounding fictitious quote from the late 90s would have referenced talk radio or simply Rush Limbaugh, who was on all radars back then.

Oh yeah, this thread is also about the ISIS guy who murdered 49 people in Orlando. He had ties to Islamic fundamentalism and his father, not even one day later, told the public that gays deserved death according to the Koran.

I see some parallels between you talking Ryan & Social Security in this thread and Obama talking AR-15 bans (automatic weaponry not used in Orlandom btw) & Trump in the aftermath where a homegrown Islamic terrorist slaughtered innocents in a gay disco - diversionary talk to avoid some tough truths.

I'm not going to look, but who would there be a video if it's People Magazine? Is it not in People Magazine? I have no idea and don't really care. Picture memes are routinely made up, so could be totally bogus.

**ByeShea** · 06-17-16, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by ACoochy

Sorry pal, going by your boys rules here...

What's next - you're going to vote?

**DwightShrute** · 06-17-16, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by chico2663

Bogus Meme Targets Trump - FactCheck.org

<cite class="_Rm" style="color: rgb(0, 102, 33); font-style: normal; font-size: 14px;">www.factcheck.org/2015/11/bogus-meme-targets-trump/</cite>
Nov 25, 2015 - Q: Did Donald Trump tell People magazine in 1998 that if he ever ran for president, he'd do it as a Republican because “they're the dumbest ...