how the hell is the Baylor line dropping and how can you not take them?

[Lockitup1x]

baylor is dead in the water tonight.. line says it all


-stash

Line isn't that off according to kenpom - projects a 1pt Kansas win.

[Thehusker]

It's Kansas; better recruits, more rings, more of everything. Taylor has first pick talent. Robinson first pick talent. Look at the Coaches. KU 1 seed damn near everyyear. KU ATS lose by 1 if at all.

[stevenash]

Jim Dunkel says:

Game 559-560: Kansas at Baylor (7:00 p.m. EST)
Dunkel Ratings: Kansas 73.517; Baylor 76.572
Dunkel Line: Baylor by 3; 149
Vegas Line: Baylor by 1 1/2; 143 1/2
Dunkel Pick: Baylor (-1 1/2); Over

Jeff Sagarin says the game is a pick.

I'll play the over, Dunkel says the total is off six, Dunkel's totals are usually (not always) money

[zoo youk]

I've made my point about Baylor before and will say it many more times I am sure before they inevitably blow a game in the tournament they should win ... Scott Drew is a terrible Xs and Os coach. He is indeed the Mack Brown of basketball. Superior recruiter, but terrible game coach. Baylor's defense is the best part of this team IMO. If you had a coach in here who installed some sort of offensive system for Baylor, this team would be nearly unstoppable. Instead, they've got a very lazy system of picks and standing around waiting for someone to individually do something more often than not. Any good coach with time to prepare for Baylor should be able to devise some sort of game plan to have their team in position to win.

The BU offense looks more NBA-like than anything and while individual talent can win you many a game against many inferior opponents, as someone mentioned above - KU is by far the better "coached" team. Doesn't mean they will win tonight, but Self's system works with the players he recruits. Drew recruits the players and doesn't really install them into anything. Amazes me that coaches won't admit their weaknesses and at least have an assistant on the club who could be the offensive "genius" ... but that's why so many of these guys let their egos run them out of jobs.

Drew is certainly evolving when it comes to Xs and Os and game management. take a look at all the close games Baylor has closed out on the road this year. on the top of m y head I can count at least 5-6 on the road where it resulted in a 4-6 point win. the most important thing about this team is THEY KNOW HOW TO FINISH AND CLOSE GAMES OUT.

if Drew wasn't evolving as a coach all those 4-5 point road wins would be losses. bad coaches teams do not finish and lose the close games or the final possessions cost them game. this is certainly not the case this year with Baylor.

[zoo youk]

It's Kansas; better recruits, more rings, more of everything. Taylor has first pick talent. Robinson first pick talent. Look at the Coaches. KU 1 seed damn near everyyear. KU ATS lose by 1 if at all.

you just proved my point entirely about how this line is based on school name reputation with that post.

this is not nearly as a dominate Kansas team as you see year in and year out. not even CLOSE. this is one of the weakest teams they have put on the floor in the long time. sure at Lawrence they look awfully good....but when Taylor is disinterested they are certainly suspect.

and on the road.........well...even more suspect.

[naslax13]

would be shocked if baylor blows them out by DD.. should be a close game I'm on kansas and teasing them up to +9 as well

[zoo youk]

Completely fkn crumbled folded like a bunch of big pussies. Dominated early on looked like they coule run em out the gym than take a lil jab in the mouth by ku run b4 the half and never get up off mat and respond.

Just lifeless and pathetic.

[RITZ]

Kansas B-ball clinic! wow!

[teaserpleaser]

Completely fkn crumbled folded like a bunch of big pussies. Dominated early on looked like they coule run em out the gym than take a lil jab in the mouth by ku run b4 the half and never get up off mat and respond.

Just lifeless and pathetic.

unreal how bad they came out at half missing lay ups

[EaglesPhan36]

Drew is certainly evolving when it comes to Xs and Os and game management. take a look at all the close games Baylor has closed out on the road this year. on the top of m y head I can count at least 5-6 on the road where it resulted in a 4-6 point win. the most important thing about this team is THEY KNOW HOW TO FINISH AND CLOSE GAMES OUT. if Drew wasn't evolving as a coach all those 4-5 point road wins would be losses. bad coaches teams do not finish and lose the close games or the final possessions cost them game. this is certainly not the case this year with Baylor.

Beating average teams like OSU & A&M is one thing, tonight is another example ... team is falling apart and he has no idea what to do to fix it. This team has zero offensive discipline and until he implements better game plans and finds the ability to adjust better against good coaches, Baylor is going to find it tough to beat teams that they are probably more talented than ... but are better organized and coached than they are.

[UNCGQ]

By my math, Baylor is currently down by 20.

Will this at least slow down the constant 'nobody knows how good Baylor is' threads for at least a week?

[UNCGQ]

Beating average teams like OSU & A&M is one thing, tonight is another example ... team is falling apart and he has no idea what to do to fix it. This team has zero offensive discipline and until he implements better game plans and finds the ability to adjust better against good coaches, Baylor is going to find it tough to beat teams that they are probably more talented than ... but are better organized and coached than they are.

this.

Which team would you take if they magically played each other on Saturday? Baylor or Duke?

Not even close.

[smoke a bowl]

Groids I tell ya.

[UpsetSpecial09]

Baylor shouldnt even be ranked...huge choke artists, how can you argue with this. have you seen the 2H...either someone is point shaving or they are really this bad and losing to Kansas AGAIN!

[crustyme]

kansas hasnt lost back to back games under bill self in over 6 years.

[5mike5]

kansas +120 looking mighty fine all ther sudden!!!!

[dondude]

Getting manhandled.

[zoo youk]

I def will not be playing this team against highly ranked opponents the rest of the year. lesson learned.

I have never saw a team start out with such confidence and explosiveness. and take a lil tiny jab KU goes on a small run to end the half and they went into the locker room like the game was over, come out second halve and throw up shots that a 6th grader would take. turned it off 5 min into 2nd half so gross.

[dondude]

They need that coach the lady's team has. I think his name is Kim mulkey

[zoo youk]

Shed fk them with a strap on than maybe theyd have a lil toughness

[dondude]

[Smoke]

Told you..

Books love guys like you

You're a fukkin bum

[Ambition]

This thread was honestly my deciding factor on fading Baylor and cashing with Kansas.

Also, the fact that Kansas hasn't lost back to back games in like 5 years!

[secretstash]

baylor is dead in the water tonight.. line says it all opened -1...went up to -2.. now down to -1.5 AT HOME.. meanwhile they are virtually ranked the same.. this game is for the top of big 12.. and line says kansas would be favored by 1 to 1.5 on neutral court and 4.5 + at home?? LOL come on people.. the revenge factor.. the home field.. etc are all already factored into the line and all they got out of it was -1.5? someone been smoking on something good.. pass it beyond all this.. when baylor loses at home.. it will setup baylor to beat misso on the road on saturday -stash

-stash

[INVEGA MAN]

Damn, I took Baylor. They didnt come to play. They have to learn to play with the big boys

[Br0nxer]

kansas was easy money

one of the easiest picks in college BB this year

anyone who had the bears should seriously consider retiring from gambling

[zoo youk]

dur hur hur

[opie1988]

Zoo Youk has posted lots of winners this b-ball season. More than most on here.

Don't be a dikk to the kid because his play lost. Who in this thread hasn't picked a loser?

Get 'em next time, Zoo.

[Br0nxer]

this isn't an across the board rule

but always take this into consideration

in college bb never ever and i mean ever bet a .5 point to 2 point home favorite

over the long haul it is a losing proposition. you will get buried

its either the road dog or no play for me every time

[zoo youk]

Zoo Youk has posted lots of winners this b-ball season. More than most on here.

Don't be a dikk to the kid because his play lost. Who in this thread hasn't picked a loser?

Get 'em next time, Zoo.

thanks op. you always seem to have my back. appreciate it

will bounce back strong.

[Br0nxer]

Wager Type : Spread (or run line)
Wager Status : WinRisk / To Win Amount : 312.00 / 288.89(USD)
Accepted : 2/8/2012 4:01PM - PST
Won : 288.89
Amount Paid : 600.89
Sport / Period : NCAA Basketball / Game
Selection : Kansas
Time : 2/8/2012 7:00:01PM - (EST)
Line : +2 -108
Game Notes : (ESPN2)

[zoo youk]

this isn't an across the board rule

but always take this into consideration

in college bb never ever and i mean ever bet a .5 point to 2 point home favorite

over the long haul it is a losing proposition. you will get buried

its either the road dog or no play for me every time

I understand that. whenever a home team is laying less than 2 points, the line makers feel that the home court is of no advantage and the line is def favoring the away team in most cases.
I honestly just believed this line was based on school name reputation, alone. BU folded like a cheap suit.

[Br0nxer]

Wager Type : Spread (or run line)
Wager Status : PendingRisk / To Win Amount : 300.00 / 277.78(USD)
Accepted : 2/8/2012 5:53PM - PST
Sport / Period : NCAA Basketball / Game
Selection : Seton Hall
Time : 2/8/2012 9:00:01PM - (EST)
Line : +1½ -108
Game Notes : (ESPN2)

obviously it aint gonna work every time

i got this pending

its always a no play for me or road dog every time

[Br0nxer]

I understand that. whenever a home team is laying less than 2 points, the line makers feel that the home court is of no advantage and the line is def favoring the away team in most cases.
I honestly just believed this line was based on school name reputation, alone. BU folded like a cheap suit.

i wouldn't say they folded

kansas is way better

baylor fed off the home crowd the first 16 minutes and the cream rose to the top like it usually does eventually

[cant call it]

pound pound pound baylor get that kansas ml up to 150 so I can tag it hard