Horse Racing INFO

**davidchong** · 02-07-12, 11:56 PM

what track your looking for?, what kind of bets you usually makes?.

**CanuckG** · 02-08-12, 12:10 AM

Looking tomorrow for

Aqueduct
Beulah Park
Turf Paradise
Portland Meadows

**Roadtrip635** · 02-08-12, 12:16 AM

Checkout Brisnet.com, tons of horse racing info. Their Ultimate PP's are the best, also just noticed they will have free PP's Feb. 23-29. They have a live customizable tote board where you can keep up with live betting at several tracks at the same time. They also have a cool stable alert system where you can keep track of any horses next start. If there are any horses or horse you want to get notified on their next starts, just enter the name and you'll receive an email ahead of time. Their daily Handicappers Edge section usually helps breakdown the next day's and upcoming days races.

**Lockitup1x** · 02-08-12, 12:36 AM

Guys gotta make a livin huh?

**wtf** · 02-08-12, 02:21 AM

been betting horses for 20 years

only wager on races covered by exchanges

goto www.drf.com for info

**CanuckG** · 02-08-12, 02:33 AM

Originally posted by wtf

been betting horses for 20 years

only wager on races covered by exchanges

goto www.drf.com for info

**Dark Horse** · 02-08-12, 02:39 AM

Bris forms you can often get for free. http://www.horse-races.net/library/l...ances.htm#free
For DRF, the only outlet for Beyer figs, you have to pay.

Any tips in general about horse betting? Read str's Q&A thread in the horse forum. You'll learn more there than from any books on the subject.

**nyplayer33** · 02-08-12, 04:12 AM

bet the 2nd to 4th fav or choice most of the time. Betting favs all the time..u won't win..betting the longest shot is like a fat guy gettin a hot girl..stick to 2nd to 4th choice in my view...

**jjgold** · 02-08-12, 06:30 AM

Any worthwhile horse info is not free
Only basic entries and results are free

**davidchong** · 02-08-12, 06:55 AM

Aqueduct:
R1: 4-7
R2: 5
R3: 7
R4: 3-6-2
R5: 5-8-7
R6: 7-5-2
R7: 9
R8: 7-8-5
R9: 3-6

**str** · 02-08-12, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Any worthwhile horse info is not free
Only basic entries and results are free

Mine is JJ.

**davidchong** · 02-08-12, 11:36 AM

Early Pick 4 at Aqueduct is a Daily Double

Today's Race 2 and 3 at Aqueduct, two horses alone in your pick 4.
i like it 100% to win....

Race 2, No. 5
Race 3, No. 7

Good luck to you and me.

**jjgold** · 02-08-12, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by str

Mine is JJ.

str??

What exactly are you saying???

**CanuckG** · 02-08-12, 02:29 PM

Beulah Race #5 this old guy next to me says 8-4-3 he seems sharp

**YorkHunt** · 02-08-12, 03:00 PM

canuck anything else?

**CanuckG** · 02-08-12, 03:04 PM

I'm a novice at this I'm staring at sheets of info that I have no idea how to even use to my advantage.

**str** · 02-08-12, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

str??

What exactly are you saying???

I am saying that knowledge is power and all the info that I have posted too date and any further questions that are answered will be info that is worthwhile and free.
At least, it is intended too be worthwhile.

**CanuckG** · 02-08-12, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by str

I am saying that knowledge is power and all the info that I have posted too date and any further questions that are answered will be info that is worthwhile and free.
At least, that is my intent.

I read your thread with people asking questions regarding your experience with this and I have to say that it was one of the top threads at SBR

**str** · 02-08-12, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by CanuckG

I'm a novice at this I'm staring at sheets of info that I have no idea how to even use to my advantage.

Can I help you with something?

Happy too try.

**str** · 02-08-12, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by CanuckG

I read your thread with people asking questions regarding your experience with this and I have to say that it was one of the top threads at SBR

Thanks man.

Very kind words.

**CanuckG** · 02-08-12, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by str

Can I help you with something?

Happy too try.

Well I have all these sheets with Win Pct% and the % of when the horse comes 1st, 2nd or 3rd. Also shows the trainers/owners/jockeys stats and I also look at the race track itself and see if it suits any of the horses but after that I'm clueless. Should I be looking at something else? What do you recommend betting as well? Exacta's, Superfecta's, Trifecta's or anything else?

Also York that Beulah race went 4-8-6....

**str** · 02-08-12, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by CanuckG

Well I have all these sheets with Win Pct% and the % of when the horse comes 1st, 2nd or 3rd. Also shows the trainers/owners/jockeys stats and I also look at the race track itself and see if it suits any of the horses but after that I'm clueless. Should I be looking at something else? What do you recommend betting as well? Exacta's, Superfecta's, Trifecta's or anything else?

Also York that Beulah race went 4-8-6....

Honestly, I would focus on win betting and maybe exacta betting. I would stay away from the tri's and supers as well as Pick 3s, 4s,and 6's and even Daily Doubles for now.They are fun but the % of takeout is very high. For a new player, don't try and take on too much at once. Win betting puts the most money back in the bettor's pockets because it typically has the least % of takeout. Being new to the game, I would stay with that for now. If you get a race down to 2 or 3 horses and just can't like one more than another, maybe box those 2 or 3 horses in an exacta. But boxing 3 speeds or 3 deep closers rarely makes sense. As you have probably read, try and set the race up at least somewhat as to how many horses are in each category. That will give you a sense as to the pace.

Being old school, it will always be DRF.com for me. I have always read the standard PPS .DRF Ultimate PPs might be better but whatever.
Do you think it would help if I posted a tutorial video on what I look for when setting a race up and how I read the form?
One of my kids just did this for some software company . Maybe he could help me do it. Using a pointer on a screen do you think that might help you or others?

P.S. some of that info that you have might help in the grand scheme of things but it is really not much help for someone just learning.

**CanuckG** · 02-08-12, 03:39 PM

Yes it would help a lot!

**str** · 02-08-12, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by CanuckG

Yes it would help a lot!

I will see if he can set that up .

If so, I will add it to my thread.

Holler in my thread if you need anything.

Happy to help anytime.

**cecil127** · 02-08-12, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Any worthwhile horse info is not free Only basic entries and results are free

heres some PP's for Standardbreds. couldnt ask for much more for free....and they're everyday but only cover 4 races per track (the races involved in the pick 4)

http://www.trackmaster.com/usta/

fridays at the meadowlands however is free for the whole card:

Page not found - Meadowlands Racing & Entertainment

http://thebigm.com/content.aspx?id=3357

Meadownloads Theme

and racing from north of the border ALWAYS has free PP's for the whole card. They know how to take care of the bettor up there....

http://www.woodbineentertainment.com/Woodbine/Racing/Pages/FreeProgramDownloads.aspx

(they have a quick explanation of the Past Performance (PP) sheet if your not familiar with it)

if thats not enough reason to bet the sulkys i dont know what is

bol

**jjgold** · 02-08-12, 06:33 PM

Horses are so tough.. in usa they play games at smaller tracks and also some of the bigger tracks at times
Its so hard to win, you might be able to beat a few races on a card but you cannot beat the races
Also if you do not make scores its hard to stay in the game

**john230** · 02-08-12, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Horses are so tough.. in usa they play games at smaller tracks and also some of the bigger tracks at times
Its so hard to win, you might be able to beat a few races on a card but you cannot beat the races
Also if you do not make scores its hard to stay in the game

**cecil127** · 02-08-12, 06:52 PM

ive been known to hang out at the local barn and recently heard, "ask him(the driver) to not Win this week with "him" (horse). get second or third. i dont want him forced to step up (class) and get his ass handed to him next week...."
that my friends is one hard angle to cap IMO.
i think these slot enhanced purses are really keeping the drivers from fixing too many races. $25,000 purse or a $35 exacta? you tell me what they want more. not saying shenanigans dont occur (cause they do) but not at the clip most believe.

**Roadtrip635** · 02-08-12, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by CanuckG

Well I have all these sheets with Win Pct% and the % of when the horse comes 1st, 2nd or 3rd. Also shows the trainers/owners/jockeys stats and I also look at the race track itself and see if it suits any of the horses but after that I'm clueless. Should I be looking at something else? What do you recommend betting as well? Exacta's, Superfecta's, Trifecta's or anything else?

Horse racing can definitely be information overload, when you first start looking at those PP's. The best advice I can give is to stay patient and try not to bet too many races. With 9+ races per card and 5+ tracks running it's easy to get carried away.

I read a couple really good books early on, which helped a lot, Betting Thoroughbreds by Steven Davidowitz and Picking Winners by Andrew Beyer. Both have solid strategies on the basics of handicapping.
str thread has a lot of great info as well.

GL

**frankiehiball** · 02-09-12, 11:30 AM

u should also look at workout times and last workout......if dropping in class or distance.........

**str** · 02-09-12, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by frankiehiball

u should also look at workout times and last workout......if dropping in class or distance.........

Hi Frankie,

I saw your comment and want to try and help out.

Please read in my questions and answers thread post # 5 and #53. There might be others that speak on the subject but those 2 might help on this subject.
If those are not of help to you , let me know and I will further explain.
Best of Luck.

**aggieshawn** · 02-09-12, 05:28 PM

Bet the Gray Horses.

**str** · 02-09-12, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by aggieshawn

Bet the Gray Horses.

On mud and turf for sure !

And there is a very real reason behind that.

**harthebar** · 02-09-12, 06:10 PM

euibase.com
drf.com
try those equibase lets you look at chats from indivdual hoses,but you to keep clicking back and forth ...twinspires.com they give you live races what track you looking for