I don't think we're appreciating how good Lebron really is

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  • Ballerholic
    SBR MVP
    • 01-16-13
    • 2767

    #1
    I don't think we're appreciating how good Lebron really is
    The guy just scored 44 points against the supposedly best defensive team in the league. They literally threw every defensive scheme is way and he still managed 44 points, It wasn't like he was getting wide open layups. He's a freak of nature and it is a joke that he doesn't win MVP every year. It is literally Lebron against the Warriors, but he can still salvage the series. Della will bring a more defensive mentality and he will improve the defense. Della, Shumpert, Lebron, Thompson, Mozgov. It'll be to drive against them. Now Lebron is going to need to play an even bigger role here, but if his shooters can actually make a few shots then we've got a series. I mean c'mon J.R went 3-13, and the Warriors won the 1st game on their own court...

    Series isn't over
  • The Giant
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-21-12
    • 21480

    #2
    Lebron is an absolute beast, and anyone that says otherwise simply doesn't want to see him succeed. I'm a little worried that Dellavedova might be a matchup problem for Cleveland, it's strange that he only got 9 minutes in the first game. He might not be able to keep up with Golden State's guards. There is a very good chance this ends up like Cleveland's run to the finals in 2007. They just don't have enough ammunition.
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    • yydouble
      SBR MVP
      • 05-30-11
      • 1240

      #3
      Blatt is just terrible. He contributes nothing.
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        They played him one on one and let him score a lot of points

        It worked but barely...strategy was not too leave other guys open
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        • klemopixx
          SBR MVP
          • 10-02-14
          • 3807

          #5
          They may take two out of three in Cleveland but all it takes is one off night from LeBron to sink them now. He's got to get help if they are to have a chance. Mozgov trade was a mistake, not worth a first rounder.
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          • Chi_archie
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-22-08
            • 63165

            #6
            Cavs have no bench and no other offensive threats unless jr smith gets hot

            golden state too deep
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #7
              Originally posted by Chi_archie
              Cavs have no bench and no other offensive threats unless jr smith gets hot

              golden state too deep

              of course...its going to be sad tonight watching the destruction
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              • LAx12
                SBR Rookie
                • 05-19-15
                • 37

                #8
                Best player in the league and its not close.

                Literally took a bunch of scrubs and Kyrie to the finals.
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                • Vegas39
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 09-22-11
                  • 30686

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Chi_archie
                  Cavs have no bench and no other offensive threats unless jr smith gets hot

                  golden state too deep
                  Need JR to show up rest of series. he is streaky shooter so possible
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                  • Jeffie
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-06-12
                    • 3428

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ballerholic
                    The guy just scored 44 points against the supposedly best defensive team in the league. They literally threw every defensive scheme is way and he still managed 44 points, It wasn't like he was getting wide open layups. He's a freak of nature and it is a joke that he doesn't win MVP every year. It is literally Lebron against the Warriors, but he can still salvage the series. Della will bring a more defensive mentality and he will improve the defense. Della, Shumpert, Lebron, Thompson, Mozgov. It'll be to drive against them. Now Lebron is going to need to play an even bigger role here, but if his shooters can actually make a few shots then we've got a series. I mean c'mon J.R went 3-13, and the Warriors won the 1st game on their own court...

                    Series isn't over
                    No actually the Warriors literally let him shoot anytime he wanted and he can't make a jumper to save his life. Lebron is a beast and it's a shame he won't take it to the hoop more. Btw he took like 38 shots so I would hope he scores atleast 40..
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                    • lakerboy
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 04-02-09
                      • 94379

                      #11
                      Could care less about a running back.
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                      • R.P. McMurphy
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 06-15-12
                        • 9654

                        #12
                        People who know the game and appreciate greatness certainly do. If you just wanna hate like a blind fool or compare him to Jordan at every step (which again means you have no clue) then I got nothin for ya
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                        • pavyracer
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 04-12-07
                          • 82669

                          #13
                          Michael Jordan was playing with scrubs his whole career and won 6 out of 6.

                          Only time Lebron won a title was when Wade was carrying him in Miami. Wade is the MVP and not Lefraud.
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                          • meader99
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-30-10
                            • 4223

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jeffie
                            No actually the Warriors literally let him shoot anytime he wanted and he can't make a jumper to save his life. Lebron is a beast and it's a shame he won't take it to the hoop more. Btw he took like 38 shots so I would hope he scores atleast 40..
                            Its funny to me that people don't see this. Lebron is the best player in the world today, BUT there are a ton of guys in this league that could score 44 on 38 shots.
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                            • nelsonrc24
                              SBR MVP
                              • 04-02-13
                              • 1578

                              #15
                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                              Michael Jordan was playing with scrubs his whole career and won 6 out of 6.

                              Only time Lebron won a title was when Wade was carrying him in Miami. Wade is the MVP and not Lefraud.
                              LMAO no one can touch your childhood hero? Smh
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                              • CWD
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-22-12
                                • 7665

                                #16
                                think its clear now he isnt jordan, he has had enough game winning/buzzer beater chances and come up empty

                                he keeps losing titles he is going to give jim kelly and the bills a run for their money
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                                • R.P. McMurphy
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 06-15-12
                                  • 9654

                                  #17
                                  Yeah cause Pippen, Rodman were such scrubs Pavy lol....fukking idiot! Bron rebuilt that Miami team and got broken down Wade a couple more rings don't fool yourselves kiddos If Bron had arrived in Miami a few years earlier and been with a younger /healthier Wade then yeah that team probably could have won 4/5 at least.
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                                  • pavyracer
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 04-12-07
                                    • 82669

                                    #18
                                    How many buzzard beaters did Rodman and Pippen had?

                                    Answer: The same as Lebron.
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                                    • jtoler
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 12-17-13
                                      • 30967

                                      #19
                                      Gonna be an uphill battle.for GS tonight, just don't see it.
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                                      • R.P. McMurphy
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 06-15-12
                                        • 9654

                                        #20
                                        How many did your Airness have? Kerr and some other guys were getting big shots as well. And didn't Bron just have ANOTHER game winner a couple weeks back when he over ruled the coach and hit a trey from the corner with a sec to go? I get it your a fanboy and very biased but don't let that blind you. MJ also had same coach , and a good nucleus of returning role players for that stretch in 90's. Pippen was huge don't kid yourself he could ball and was named top 50 all time. Worm was never there to hit a gm winner he did the dirt work, grabbed boards, and got in peoples heads which again was absolutely big and every team needs that scrappy , hustler doing the dirt work that was his role not hitting buzzer beaters. What's next we gonna talk shit on Moses Malone from not being a clutch jump shooter in final seconds? Lol
                                        Last edited by R.P. McMurphy; 06-07-15, 03:35 PM.
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                                        • raiders72001
                                          Senior Member
                                          • 08-10-05
                                          • 11084

                                          #21
                                          Bulls 62-20, won the title as #1 seed

                                          Jordan 34 yrs old, played all 82 games.
                                          Rodman 36, played 66 games.
                                          Pippen 32, played 44 games.
                                          Harper 34
                                          Longley
                                          Kukoc



                                          Cle 53-29 #2 seed

                                          Irving 22
                                          Love 26, rated 7th best player in the NBA preseason by SI.
                                          Thompson 23,
                                          J.R.Smith 29 - was 6th man of the year for the Knicks two years ago averaging 18.1 pts/gm
                                          Shumpert 25
                                          Mozgov 28
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                                          • raiders72001
                                            Senior Member
                                            • 08-10-05
                                            • 11084

                                            #22
                                            Lebron quote last year on SA series
                                            They actually didn't focus on me last year. They didn't guard me. I didn't make shots. ... It wasn't much of a game plan, they didn't guard me.
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                                            • pavyracer
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 04-12-07
                                              • 82669

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by R.P. McMurphy
                                              How many did your Airness have? Kerr and some other guys were getting big shots as well. And didn't Bron just have ANOTHER game winner a couple weeks back when he over ruled the coach and hit a trey from the corner with a sec to go? I get it your a fanboy and very biased but don't let that blind you. MJ also had same coach , and a good nucleus of returning role players for that stretch in 90's. Pippen was huge don't kid yourself he could ball and was named top 50 all time. Worm was never there to hit a gm winner he did the dirt work, grabbed boards, and got in peoples heads which again was absolutely big and every team needs that scrappy , hustler doing the dirt work that was his role not hitting buzzer beaters. What's next we gonna talk shit on Moses Malone from not being a clutch jump shooter in final seconds? Lol
                                              Jordan has only a few buzzer beaters because he played well enough to win the game without needing one.
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                                              • pinchegringo
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 03-15-14
                                                • 734

                                                #24
                                                LBJ is awesome, MJ was awesome, Kobe is really good.


                                                GS basically pulled a Pistons on Kobe when they let him take what he wants. It works a lot better on Kobe because he is half the player LBJ is but it still worked. LBJ needs to be more efficient if they play that way, well more so he needs his D and 3s to hit 3s. LBJ not taking 3s would probably help his effiecency too but he probably does that for balance so the D has to respect it...but he has to make them for them to need to respect it and he could shoot half as many and they still have to respect it.


                                                LBJ needs to play better for them to get a game if they take that strategy, which then I think was the best strategy to take. Now that he has less help I would probably double him more.
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                                                • MoMoneyMoVaughn
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 05-08-14
                                                  • 14988

                                                  #25
                                                  Lebron just needs to do this all game.

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                                                  • R.P. McMurphy
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 06-15-12
                                                    • 9654

                                                    #26
                                                    Raiders love the avi and name! Think things turning for us this year and moving forward I hope Your stat is meaningless though considering Irving banged up and now out, Love out (2 best players aside from Bron). Rest are just role players who were nobodies honestly until Bron made them accountable and better. Let's not also forget this is year 1 with this new heap , half of which (Moz, Smith, Schump) thrown together on fly during season.

                                                    Not trying to lick Brons nuts or make excuses just speaking objectively and fairly here. I'm a Magic guy that was my boy and greatest ever that I have ever watched to my eyes personally. But not afraid to admit LeBron is all around better player and more versatile if that makes sense?

                                                    Hes had some bad luck no doubt landing in Cleveland to begin with. But he made that dump of a team/city relevant again and with no help 1st rnd. Then goes to Miami with big 3....Wade always hurt good chunk of time, Bosh spice a complete gutless no show in several big games. Now back to Cavs and the man made of glass who plays no defense Kyrie, and Love both useless in finals. So what's he got to work with? Bunch of scrubs he's made respectable and playing to their limits. But let's not kid ourselves he does not have Worthy, Kareem, McHale, Pippen, Rodman , Ginobili, Parker , etc like so many other elites enjoyed for most his run.
                                                    Last edited by R.P. McMurphy; 06-07-15, 04:05 PM.
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                                                    • pinchegringo
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 03-15-14
                                                      • 734

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Ballerholic
                                                      The guy just scored 44 points against the supposedly best defensive team in the league. They literally threw every defensive scheme is way and he still managed 44 points, It wasn't like he was getting wide open layups. He's a freak of nature and it is a joke that he doesn't win MVP every year. It is literally Lebron against the Warriors, but he can still salvage the series. Della will bring a more defensive mentality and he will improve the defense. Della, Shumpert, Lebron, Thompson, Mozgov. It'll be to drive against them. Now Lebron is going to need to play an even bigger role here, but if his shooters can actually make a few shots then we've got a series. I mean c'mon J.R went 3-13, and the Warriors won the 1st game on their own court...

                                                      Series isn't over
                                                      Della may be a better overall defender than Kyrie but he hasn't had to play it for 40 minutes while and Kyrie is a better matchup for Curry than Della is because of quickness. Also not sure how you beat 2 blocks on Curry, and LBJ will have to play more on Curry so he will be more tired, their D isn't getting better even in a vacuum.

                                                      LBJ should win the MVP every year though and I do like the starting 5 but it shouldn't be enough.
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                                                      • smoke a bowl
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-09-09
                                                        • 2776

                                                        #28
                                                        16-5 is the main reason anyone from Chicago hates Lebron. I'll let you guys figure that one out.
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                                                        • pinchegringo
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 03-15-14
                                                          • 734

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by MoMoneyMoVaughn
                                                          Lebron just needs to do this all game.

                                                          If you looked at his 3p% you would assume he was

                                                          ok done, great player, awesome teams
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                                                          • R.P. McMurphy
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 06-15-12
                                                            • 9654

                                                            #30
                                                            Pavy break out one of these before I embarrass you anymore.....or you embarrass yourself with your lack of.....
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                                                            • Big Bear
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 11-01-11
                                                              • 43253

                                                              #31
                                                              agreed

                                                              Lebron is underrated
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                                                              • raiders72001
                                                                Senior Member
                                                                • 08-10-05
                                                                • 11084

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by R.P. McMurphy
                                                                Raiders love the avi and name! Think things turning for us this year and moving forward I hope Your stat is meaningless though considering Irving banged up and now out, Love out (2 best players aside from Bron). Rest are just role players who were nobodies honestly until Bron made them accountable and better. Let's not also forget this is year 1 with this new heap , half of which (Moz, Smith, Schump) thrown together on fly during season.

                                                                Not trying to lick Brons nuts or make excuses just speaking objectively and fairly here. I'm a Magic guy that was my boy and greatest ever that I have ever watched to my eyes personally. But not afraid to admit LeBron is all around better player and more versatile if that makes sense?

                                                                Hes had some bad luck no doubt landing in Cleveland to begin with. But he made that dump of a team/city relevant again and with no help 1st rnd. Then goes to Miami with big 3....Wade always hurt good chunk of time, Bosh spice a complete gutless no show in several big games. Now back to Cavs and the man made of glass who plays no defense Kyrie, and Love both useless in finals. So what's he got to work with? Bunch of scrubs he's made respectable and playing to their limits. But let's not kid ourselves he does not have Worthy, Kareem, McHale, Pippen, Rodman etc like so many others enjoyed for most his run.
                                                                Nothing more fun to watch than Magic and the Show Time Lakers. I pulled against them but no doubt a great team. LeBron doesn't have much now but I think the team is loaded for the future.
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                                                                • meader99
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 10-30-10
                                                                  • 4223

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by smoke a bowl
                                                                  16-5 is the main reason anyone from Chicago hates Lebron. I'll let you guys figure that one out.
                                                                  Cavs fans probably have similar feelings towards MJ. Just sayin.
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                                                                  • smoke a bowl
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-09-09
                                                                    • 2776

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by meader99
                                                                    Cavs fans probably have similar feelings towards MJ. Just sayin.
                                                                    Absolutely. Knicks fans maybe more so.
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                                                                    • R.P. McMurphy
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 06-15-12
                                                                      • 9654

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Pacer fans maybe more than Knicks or certainly Cavs lol
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