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  • James D
    SBR MVP
    • 01-03-13
    • 2040

    #36
    Originally posted by kevin101
    Ill just place a few bets and learn as the game goes on and if the casino hustles me then so be it. Seems like the easiest way to learn
    Easiest way is bet pass line and then the odds on whatever point shows up that's it. The fancier bets you will learn in time, some you will Learn quickly.

    Look at it this way on Super Bowl Sunday a novice just bets the spread and enjoys the game. We as sports bettors look at totals half times proposition bets etc etc etc. in craps you are a novice so do what I recommended. Pass line and the odds and just root for your number 4/5/6/8/9/10. Whichever number it is, and root against the 7. Nothing else mattters
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    • tony_come
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-31-10
      • 21695

      #37
      Stretch those wrists before throwing
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      • zacher
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 12-05-13
        • 588

        #38
        Originally posted by tony_come
        Stretch those wrists before throwing
        Yeah don't wanna end up like Tony with carpal tunnel lol


        But craps is the absolute funniest game in the casino also the most exciting where the dealers get into it as well because really your not playing against them actually 90% will help you out without a care and you can help them out by letting them "play with you" on a small side bet

        Like James said stick with the pass line nothing else to start, last time I went to Vegas I only had $10 in my pocket and the rest was on card id need to get from the ATM... Stopped at the craps table in the morning on the way up to my room..... $10 turned into $1850 on the plane ride home... And I was paying for drinks by the pool all day, all the meals at night, took the girl shopping got her a few nicer things.......NEVER ONCE TOUCHED MY CARD.... That is a successful 4 days in the city right there.
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388189

          #39
          Pass line and back it up ..no other way. or don't pass line and back it up
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          • oldscho0led
            SBR MVP
            • 01-18-11
            • 1407

            #40
            Fukk, never thought craps was this complicated.
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            • vividjohn45
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 11-21-10
              • 6331

              #41
              Tj coutlier is a wsop poker champ anBusted out craps player. Stay away from casino games and slots if u want to win long term. Sports betting and poker are safest bets.
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388189

                #42
                Of course your going to bust out playing casinos games but good action game and you can get lucky and make scores more than sports
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                • Sledge187
                  SBR MVP
                  • 04-25-08
                  • 3722

                  #43
                  Lots of great info in this thread!
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                  • Sam Odom
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-30-05
                    • 58063

                    #44
                    3x or 1000x odds does NOT affect the -EV of craps
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                    • byronbb
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-13-08
                      • 3067

                      #45
                      Man my friends and I have gone on some incredible runs playing craps. It's truly a miracle when the whole table is basically a team burying the house (until they don't).
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                      • Sam Odom
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-30-05
                        • 58063

                        #46
                        Thoughts from a past post...


                        Originally posted by Sam Odom

                        Money Management is key and being properly Bankrolled -- You have to be at the table when a hot roll begins , so don't bust-out... Might take 2 or 3 or 4 hrs , then again it might be the 1st roll when you buy-in

                        At minimum you need 10x the amount of $$ you'll have on the table in action at the same time... Say you do $5.00 Pass + $25 Odds then Place two #s for $30 each. Total of 90.00 dollars. $90 x 10 = $900.00 -- Personally I would want $1,200.00

                        Ok , say you do that ^ -- Do NOT increase your exposure until you have collected 3x from same shooter then Place one more number or do a 1/2 Press. Never Press twice in a row. Collect one FULL hit then 1/2 press. So it would be, Collect , 1/2 press , Collect , 1/2 press , Collect , 1/2 press , Collect , 1/2 press ...

                        There is nothing you can do to FORCE a hot roll. Some idiots believe if they raise their bet amounts and/or press too fast they can force a hot roll

                        Those are just a few thoughts...
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388189

                          #47
                          hard to get 5x or 10x odds

                          I am pumped feeling like playing online now
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                          • Sam Odom
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-30-05
                            • 58063

                            #48
                            Originally posted by jjgold

                            I am pumped feeling like playing online now




                            Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
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                            • broadway6
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-14-09
                              • 13337

                              #49
                              the best game on the planet
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                              • oldscho0led
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-18-11
                                • 1407

                                #50
                                Originally posted by vividjohn45
                                Tj coutlier is a wsop poker champ anBusted out craps player. Stay away from casino games and slots if u want to win long term. Sports betting and poker are safest bets.
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                                • stefan084
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-21-09
                                  • 1490

                                  #51
                                  just run the "iron cross" for a bit, pressing once or twice, then start to come down off your bets to insure profit and ride whats left till you bust. last long enough to get a few free drinks so you forget that you're losing your ass the longer you stay there. OR... you could do what my buddies and I did and practice at our home table for a month before going on our first trip to AC. strut in with your piddly 300 bucks thinking you're gonna go on a rainman like run and lose 90% of your roll in 15 minutes. then try to get 80 bucks back by betting that you would run into the ocean (in march w/ no other clothes)---finally resigning to the 1/2 pot limit tables to try to make it to the end of the day before losing your money (oh and trying to get drunk on free watered down booze in a dixie cup) (oh and getting sucked out on in 1/2 every hand by a chinese guy who called everything who we affectionately nicknamed "kung pow"......ahh good times
                                  Last edited by stefan084; 01-17-14, 12:28 AM.
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                                  • Cuse0323
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 12-09-09
                                    • 30169

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by stefan084
                                    just run the "iron cross" for a bit, pressing once or twice, then start to come down off your bets to insure profit and ride whats left till you bust. last long enough to get a few free drinks so you forget that you're losing your ass the longer you stay there. OR... you could do what my buddies and I did and practice at our home table for a month before going on our first trip to AC. strut in with your piddly 300 bucks thinking you're gonna go on a rainman like run and lose 90% of your roll in 15 minutes. then try to get 80 bucks back by betting that you would run into the ocean (in march w/ no other clothes)---finally resigning to the 1/2 pot limit tables to try to make it to the end of the day before losing your money (oh and trying to get drunk on free watered down booze in a dixie cup) (oh and getting sucked out on in 1/2 every hand by a chinese guy who called everything who we affectionately nicknamed "kung pow"......ahh good times
                                    that's how things really go right there
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                                    • James D
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-03-13
                                      • 2040

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                      3x or 1000x odds does NOT affect the -EV of craps

                                      I hope this is a joke, because it is 100% inaccurate.
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                                      • chipper
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-07-10
                                        • 1994

                                        #54
                                        Stick with the pass line. Jump right into the fire, find a $5 table, put a nickel on the line and wait to see if the dealer gives you another or takes it. The fastest way to learn is when you have a little skin in the game. you'll pay much better attention.
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                                        • DiggityDaggityDo
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 11-30-08
                                          • 81454

                                          #55
                                          I love crAps.

                                          they say it's the best odds in the casino.

                                          I've gone on some incredible runs turning my cash 10 times in a few minutes, yet also lost it all in a few minutes. It's a crazy game.

                                          I always bet max odds on pass and 6 & 8, then go with the flow on a good roll.

                                          you win some, you lose some. but it's better on a good rolling street.

                                          And when you are rolling good it's awesome to see other players yelling out "$5 Yo for the roller!"
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                                          • Sam Odom
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-30-05
                                            • 58063

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Sam Odom

                                            3x or 1000x odds does NOT affect the -EV of craps
                                            Originally posted by James D

                                            I hope this is a joke, because it is 100% inaccurate.

                                            Not joking...

                                            If you are seriously interested I'll explain
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                                            • DiggityDaggityDo
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 11-30-08
                                              • 81454

                                              #57
                                              1000x odds

                                              Would be awesome!!!
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                                              • Albert Pujols
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 06-01-10
                                                • 1670

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                3x or 1000x odds does NOT affect the -EV of craps
                                                Sure it does. The more you can bet on odds the less the house edge on the total money wagered. Still -ev but not by much at 100x odds.
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                                                • James D
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-03-13
                                                  • 2040

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                  Not joking...

                                                  If you are seriously interested I'll explain

                                                  Did not see your reply until this morning. Very interested to hear your thoughts, thanks.
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                                                  • Sam Odom
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 10-30-05
                                                    • 58063

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by James D

                                                    Did not see your reply until this morning. Very interested to hear your thoughts, thanks.

                                                    Cool...

                                                    let's make sure of what was said: "3x or 1000x odds does NOT affect the -EV of craps"


                                                    Odds are a 2nd (passline 1st) independent bet with zero House/Player edge. If simulated to <big>∞ </big>it is break-even

                                                    If you agree to that ^ ... Ask yourself how can a zero edge bet influence a previously established 1.41% House edge wager ?
                                                    Last edited by Sam Odom; 01-20-14, 01:52 PM.
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                                                    • MrHalftime
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 01-15-14
                                                      • 162

                                                      #61
                                                      This is no more addicting casino games then craps. When you play the absolute thrill exceeds any other game
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                                                      • allabout the $$$
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 04-17-10
                                                        • 9843

                                                        #62
                                                        harrahs philly 10x odds on thursdays
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                                                        • Killer_Demo
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 06-15-08
                                                          • 8409

                                                          #63
                                                          Pass line, place 6 & 8, 5 bucks on the fire-bet to win 5k....odds-bet on points 4 & 10 with 2 to 1 payout
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                                                          • Kaabee
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-21-06
                                                            • 2482

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                            Cool...

                                                            let's make sure of what was said: "3x or 1000x odds does NOT affect the -EV of craps"


                                                            Odds are a 2nd (passline 1st) independent bet with zero House/Player edge. If simulated to <big>∞ </big>it is break-even

                                                            If you agree to that ^ ... Ask yourself how can a zero edge bet influence a previously established 1.41% House edge wager ?
                                                            your statement is wrong. you should have said it does not affect the -EV of the pass line wager.
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                                                            • Sam Odom
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 10-30-05
                                                              • 58063

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Kaabee

                                                              your statement is wrong. you should have said it does not affect the -EV of the pass line wager.

                                                              So which wager/bet on the Craps layout is affected Plus or Minus by an Odds bet ?

                                                              Cause there are NO +EV options
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                                                              • Kaabee
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-21-06
                                                                • 2482

                                                                #66
                                                                your statement was this: "3x or 1000x odds does NOT affect the -EV of craps"

                                                                craps is a game not a wager or bet. you are saying that 3x or 1000x does not affect the EV of the game. clearly not true.
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                                                                • Sam Odom
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-30-05
                                                                  • 58063

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Kaabee
                                                                  craps is a game not a wager or bet.

                                                                  It is a series of bets NONE are +EV

                                                                  We should all know that a combination of any -EV bets cannot = Positive expectation : same goes for a 0/EV and any -EV combination
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                                                                  • Kaabee
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-21-06
                                                                    • 2482

                                                                    #68
                                                                    it's just semantics. the -ev is affected in that it's reduced. it's not affected in that it's still negative. we'll leave it at that.
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                                                                    • Sam Odom
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 10-30-05
                                                                      • 58063

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Are you (anyone) saying...

                                                                      A 0/EV wager makes a previous -EV wager less Negative ?
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                                                                      • Kaabee
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-21-06
                                                                        • 2482

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                                        Are you (anyone) saying...

                                                                        A 0/EV wager makes a previous -EV wager less Negative ?
                                                                        no, it makes the overall game less negative.
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