Breaking: Pinny420 exposed for blatant dishonesty , enlighten us Pinny

[Vinnie Paz]

In regards to this higher element thing... He is a third party record tracker, correct? He received (what he believes to be) a bogus play, and followed up accordingly. Is this the jist of it all?

[GUMMO77]

In regards to this higher element thing... He is a third party record tracker, correct? He received (what he believes to be) a bogus play, and followed up accordingly. Is this the jist of it all?

Correct. A non-profit record tracker at that.

[SlowNsteady]

If he was just a poster,
none of this would have happend. You are a zombie drug addict. Fortunately, you can still follow his plays. I am sure one of the minions will soon send you a pm, telling you how to find him. A poster pm'd me this, but wished to remain anonymous:

"the thread is being used as a marketing technique to line up the lemmings...seems there's a few guys now "working the door" to send out little "you like the thread...you'll love the "even better" paid service" pm's on his behalf...has that homespun "underground" feel to it, but seems quite well orchestrated"

He's not here just to help, he's here to drum up business.

How is "druming up business when your a proven winner" not helping people? Im sure you are aware pinny charges peanuts, freaking lunch money for a months service.

[High3rEl3m3nt]

I keep a detailed excel sheet. I still have the sheet and it was posted on my site. I agreed to take it down if Pinny admitted that he lied. He did the best "come clean" that you would expect from a tout.

[High3rEl3m3nt]

In regards to this higher element thing... He is a third party record tracker, correct? He received (what he believes to be) a bogus play, and followed up accordingly. Is this the jist of it all?

7 bogus plays that do not exist...as in he gave out 7 plays that are false. The 8th play he gave out, was Twolves -3 -110 8.8 to win 8 on Sunday, November 10. I also track SJ55 via twitter time stamps. A part of my tracking is identifying market reaction--if any, and his performance against the closing line. SJ55 gave -3 -110 on SATURDAY, November 9. The market had moved off 3 well before Sunday, midday, which is when Pinny released the play. He spotted himself at -110 over a point. These 8 plays are only the obvious ones that I have identified, without putting a lot of effort into it.

I want to make something clear, if you are a dishonest tout and you have me track you, I will be your worst nightmare.

[mid10]

Higher I think you have some other motives involved. "could be wrong, but don't think so" You talk about what SBR doesn't want him to do. Let sbr do something about it then. Now you really sound ridiculous when you give ultimatums like say sorry and I will take it down. The whole thing is childish bro. If he lied give him a bad review on your site. End of story. Why come here and banter back and forth. Really seems like you are trying to promote yourself

[High3rEl3m3nt]

also, the straw that broke that camel's back and the reason Pinny is leaving, is because his personal friend contacted me and told me that Pinny is a liar. Pinny said something to me in an email, and I responded, here's a gift. Forwarded pinny the email from his close friend. When a close friend, and someone who many of you respect, vouches to my testimony and does not know me outside of the handle "high3rEl3m3nt," what does that tell you all? Chew on that.

[High3rEl3m3nt]

Higher I think you have some other motives involved. "could be wrong, but don't think so" You talk about what SBR doesn't want him to do. Let sbr do something about it then. Now you really sound ridiculous when you give ultimatums like say sorry and I will take it down. The whole thing is childish bro. If he lied give him a bad review on your site. End of story. Why come here and banter back and forth. Really seems like you are trying to promote yourself

I did and he threatened with a lawsuit. He is the reason that my site's Hall of Shame has been rectified to now include "Pinny420" offences. Do you guys realize, that amidst all of this, I have honored the loophole that Pinny is using to keep his name out of the Hall of Shame? He using the rules to a T, to keep his name out of the Hall. I don't agree with it, but I ruled on his side and have made changes, which required me to PM every advisor that I track and have them agree to the rule changes.

[Fidel_CashFlow]

if you are correct on these Higher....then ill admit I can see why you put this shit on blast.
I guess I just saw that thread and all the good vibes in it.
Seemed like a lot of ppl were winning and coming together as one unit .
Hardly ever do you see a thread anywhere that people are not being negative in.....
but in all honesty I did not follow that thread meticulously enough to state my opinion.
That along with the fact that I would never pay for plays of any kind...
makes the tout thing not as big of a deal to me as others,
Sorry for calling you a hater though.

[pinnacle420]

also, the straw that broke that camel's back and the reason Pinny is leaving, is because his personal friend contacted me and told me that Pinny is a liar. Pinny said something to me in an email, and I responded, here's a gift. Forwarded pinny the email from his close friend. When a close friend, and someone who many of you respect, vouches to my testimony and does not know me outside of the handle "high3rEl3m3nt," what does that tell you all? Chew on that.

Ok funk I sat out and watched for as long as I can
1) that Minnesota was -3.. I booked it Saturday and sent it to my customers on Saturday just because you didn't get it til Sunday don't mean shit I sent you my plays last because your rink a dink tracking site was on the bottom of my priority list
2) I'm not leaving sbr I'm taking a break because I get tired of negative mormans like you being a dick
3) I don't know why "my friend" Said that does he see my screen and know my bets in Indiana? Or does he book action with my local I believe he doesn't!!
4) how would I lure people to a pay site? Not 1 time have I said the name of the place I do picks at here.. So it's kinda hard to find a website without a address right?
And 5th and final.. My real name is gabe Mcintosh you twat!! You posted my real fuking name
On here you fool!! That's not allowed here period!! And that fact your acct isn't banned is shocking!! And also you are not allowed to
Post links to sites or sportsbooks which you and roxy did numerous times yesterday so how your both not banned is a head scratcher.. I maned up said sorry for my awful
Comment and maned up and said the. Teaser bets was wrong.. So go enjoy your Saturday the weather is beautiful out and get a life bro

[High3rEl3m3nt]

nice try. You told several people that you made up the last name Mcintosh.

And my name is Brian.

[SlowNsteady]

I keep a detailed excel
sheet. I still have the sheet and it was posted on my site. I agreed to take it down if Pinny admitted that he lied. He did the best "come clean" that you would expect from a tout.

As much as you seem to be obessed with being right here this is the Internet . You are no more believable than any other poster on this site . Let's say for example, that you work for 5d and created a tracking searching for successful touts in order to smear their names? You say you created this site out of the goodness if your heart, just wanting to spend hours of ypur time helping mankind. Both stories might be true but again this is the internet. The place you can be whatever you want to be. You seemed believable for a while but as you continue to post i tend to believe you have some hidden motives. Acting like everyone should automatically trust you seems silly to me

[High3rEl3m3nt]

you are such a liar. You send me early sunday plays, and then you send me plays in an email titled "added plays"

[pinnacle420]

you are such a liar. You send me early sunday plays, and then you send me plays in an email titled "added plays"

I sent that because I didn't want to have you miss any plays to bad mouth me!! I had forgot a couple I sent out being these are added plays I forgot to send to you I did it quite often cause I would forget about games that I sent out that I didn't want you to miss dude

[High3rEl3m3nt]

So it's a coincidence that each of the "added plays'" start times are after the early morning supercard? Nice try

[High3rEl3m3nt]

I have every single email between you and I. This won't go well.

[High3rEl3m3nt]

Correction. Added plays started at the same time or later.

[High3rEl3m3nt]

The pattern of you releasing plays early and then adding them the day of is something that I can show over and over and over again in emails between us.

[High3rEl3m3nt]

Also, you could easily discredit me by taking a screenshot of when you sent you Twolves play.

[High3rEl3m3nt]

Or you could do one better and post a screenshot of your ticket.

[High3rEl3m3nt]

I am done here. Meaning, I am not going to respond to any more nonsense. If anyone is curious, re-read the thread. Finished.

[allabout the $$$]

i have played some of pinnys picks and yes his thread does have good vibes. element is running his site trying to be a real monitor to tracking sports touts. everyone always says tracking sites suck because they arent legit now we have a guy doing this not taking a penny from anyone at all so there is no conflict of interest what so ever and he is getting bashed. does pinny win yes so far he has proven he is a very decent capper on non major sports soccer tennis darts cricket. but what he is accused of doing can make his 54% look like 57% but no one can get those plays at 110 juice anywhere so he is playing a game with his #s which would be false advertisement.

[Minnesota Niice]

You queers need to get a life honestly.. Especially you higher element.. watch your own bobber pal

[jjgold]

nobody cares

move on

[SlowNsteady]

I am done here. Meaning, I
am not going to respond to any more nonsense. If anyone is curious, re-read the thread. Finished.

Ah, finally. Lets see how serious you are about "values".

[allabout the $$$]

You queers need to get a life honestly.. Especially you higher element.. watch your own bobber pal

so minn if your paying for picks you dont think its dishonest business that your tout gives you wagers that arent available anywhere?

[allabout the $$$]

nobody cares

move on

who the fukk are you? the real jj gold cant stand touts

[sneakerhead]

This is new. People standing up for touts lol

[mid10]

I am done here. Meaning, I am not going to respond to any more nonsense. If anyone is curious, re-read the thread. Finished.

[Smoke]

so minn if your paying for picks you dont think its dishonest business that your tout gives you wagers that arent available anywhere?

[Minnesota Niice]

so minn if your paying for picks you dont think its dishonest business that your tout gives you wagers that arent available anywhere?

Mistakes happen dipshiit you guys are blowing shiit way out of proportion and are on a fukkin witch hunt for what? maybe you shouldnt be paying for picks in the 1st place and do your own handicapping.. Your taking the gamble to pay someone for your picks thats what you get.. the guy is not trying to fukk people over becasue you found 2 points on 7 teasers out of 800 picks... GET A FUKKIN LIFE

[Minnesota Niice]

Smoke, your nothing but a fukkin idiot. Nothing good comes out of your mouth

[mid10]

Where are the pissed off customers that are paying for these picks that don't exist

[sneakerhead]

Mistakes happen dipshiit you guys are blowing shiit way out of proportion and are on a fukkin witch hunt for what? maybe you shouldnt be paying for picks in the 1st place and do your own handicapping.. Your taking the gamble to pay someone for your picks thats what you get.. the guy is not trying to fukk people over becasue you found 2 points on 7 teasers out of 800 picks... GET A FUKKIN LIFE

The irony

[Minnesota Niice]

The irony

Havent paid a dime in my life for picks.. How are you the somehow all knowing? lol what a fukkin joke