Book With Most Line Changes

**mad** · 10-01-05, 01:39 PM

Yep have to agree with you there, good book old Pinny.

**raiders72001** · 10-01-05, 01:59 PM

ASAP by far

**OldeTymePlaya** · 10-01-05, 02:03 PM

Pinnacle

**SBR_John** · 10-01-05, 02:40 PM

Pinnacale close to kickoff is moving a penny or two every few seconds. Its actually a bit annoying. Maybe I will try the order form and try to shave a few cents.

**d2bets** · 10-02-05, 08:51 AM

The mad scientists at Pinnacle move constantly, and by the penny. Nobody else does this. They must be doing something right.

**raiders72001** · 10-02-05, 09:33 AM

d2bets-ASAP moves lines much more than Pinny.

**d2bets** · 10-02-05, 09:33 AM

Never played at ASAP -- they any good?

**raiders72001** · 10-02-05, 09:36 AM

CS horrible but great lines for football and basketball. They play with the lines. May move a point or 2 but change vig. May also move a point with same vig. ML hold very small.

They are under CRIS but different linesman.

**Mudcat** · 10-02-05, 09:40 AM

I'd say Pinnacle

**Illusion** · 10-02-05, 12:05 PM

From the books I have played with, Pinnacle hands down.

**d2bets** · 10-02-05, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

CS horrible but great lines for football and basketball. They play with the lines. May move a point or 2 but change vig. May also move a point with same vig. ML hold very small.

They are under CRIS but different linesman.

How are they for payouts -- time and cost for NT? Thanks.

**jjgold** · 10-02-05, 04:28 PM

Greek moves them too as does Bowmans

**Brick Tamland** · 10-02-05, 05:47 PM

CRIS has to up there for actually moving the line. I dont consider those 1 cent moves a line move. I think those 1 cent moves are a way for pinnacle not to take millions on a single play. it tightens up the bottle kneck.

**jjgold** · 10-02-05, 06:16 PM

Yeh I forgot Cris, they seem to move also

**slash** · 10-03-05, 03:47 AM

Originally posted by raiders72001

d2bets-ASAP moves lines much more than Pinny.

LMFAO!!!!

**jjgold** · 10-03-05, 05:54 AM

Pinnacle changes are about 65% of all total line changes for any given day

**raiders72001** · 10-03-05, 09:40 AM

Slash- I think you are losing it. First of all you gave a ton of bad information out about Mansion and now you don't know a thing about ASAP

ASAP
Oct 03 233 GREEN BAY +7-111 o41½-127 +282
6:00 PM 234 CAROLINA -7-109 u41½+107 -301

Pinny
Mon 10/3 233 Green Bay Packers +7.5 -113 +280 OVER 43 -109 Props
06:00 PM 234 Carolina Panthers -7.5 +105 -310 UNDER 43 -101

On the ML ASAP has a better price on both GB and Car. Their hold is the best in the biz. Take a look at the lines at ASAP and watch them bounce around.

**jjgold** · 10-03-05, 11:49 AM

ASAP does have different lines compared to the average book

**Heysosamakeamove** · 10-03-05, 07:12 PM

ASAP, flash Gordon line moves!

**raiders72001** · 10-03-05, 10:38 PM

Hey- Thanks for jumping in to confirm.

Slash - You reading this?

**Brick Tamland** · 10-03-05, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Slash- I think you are losing it. First of all you gave a ton of bad information out about Mansion and now you don't know a thing about ASAP

ASAP
Oct 03 233 GREEN BAY +7-111 o41½-127 +282
6:00 PM 234 CAROLINA -7-109 u41½+107 -301

Pinny
Mon 10/3 233 Green Bay Packers +7.5 -113 +280 OVER 43 -109 Props
06:00 PM 234 Carolina Panthers -7.5 +105 -310 UNDER 43 -101

On the ML ASAP has a better price on both GB and Car. Their hold is the best in the biz. Take a look at the lines at ASAP and watch them bounce around.

Do their lines move faster than they did before they got their asses bailed out by cris??? (serious question although Raiders will probably post something irrelevant like why cream cheese is better than butter)

**raiders72001** · 10-03-05, 11:50 PM

Brick- I find it useless to give any info to an idiot like you. I do find it amusing to read your posts.

The one about comparing teasers to parlays was just brilliant. You showed that if you made four $100 bets at -110 and went 50/50 that you would lose $20. Thanks Captain Obvious.

Then you went on to say, ah I think but I don't know value teasers but 6 points ah ah parlay 13-5 parlay 13.5-5 I think 6 no better.

That crap was brilliant. I was thinking that we should take that post and put it in a time capsule. They would think that people from our era are the missing link.

**pags11** · 10-04-05, 03:22 AM

pinnacle definitely...

**mad** · 10-04-05, 04:01 AM

Pinnacle changing frequently, i can understand. They operate on large volume, low margins. However ASAP (SBR rated: C) seems to me they can't make up their minds. Multiple line changes is not necessarily a good sign.

**slash** · 10-04-05, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Slash- I think you are losing it. First of all you gave a ton of bad information out about Mansion and now you don't know a thing about ASAP

ASAP
Oct 03 233 GREEN BAY +7-111 o41½-127 +282
6:00 PM 234 CAROLINA -7-109 u41½+107 -301

Pinny
Mon 10/3 233 Green Bay Packers +7.5 -113 +280 OVER 43 -109 Props
06:00 PM 234 Carolina Panthers -7.5 +105 -310 UNDER 43 -101

On the ML ASAP has a better price on both GB and Car. Their hold is the best in the biz. Take a look at the lines at ASAP and watch them bounce around.

Ok, now I feel insulted. Are you saying I gave misinfo about Mansion? (and no I won't ask you to point me to any of my posts as I simply won't waste even a second of my time commenting your bs). If you stand by that statement, I will put you on my permanent ignore list, as that's probably the most (and you have posted soooo much bs) ridicolous you've ever posted.

I won't even waste more time commenting on your ASAP bs. Thanks.

**raiders72001** · 10-05-05, 04:05 AM

slash- Please don't put me on your permanent ignore list. LMAO You gave out bad info on Mansion. We argued on who pays fees on exchange. You said both winners and losers. Will you finally admit that you are wrong. Your posts still have no substance. You are wrong about both Mansion and ASAP.

**jentude** · 10-05-05, 05:41 AM

have to agree about the greeks line movements, i havent used pinn that much but the greek does move a lot

**slash** · 10-05-05, 06:12 AM

jentude, you will find that Pinnacle moves the lines way more than oly.

**slash** · 10-05-05, 06:14 AM

What a relief: This message is hidden because raiders72001 is on your ignore list.

**pags11** · 10-05-05, 01:21 PM

these guys are amazing with the way they change the lines and the juice...

**jjgold** · 10-05-05, 02:20 PM

Pinny line changes are automated