Betroyal is cheating with bonus

**BAUS** · 09-27-05, 11:04 PM

What country are you from ?

BAUS

**Trouble Maker** · 09-27-05, 11:12 PM

Your not Dutch are ya fixxer?

**Bill Dozer** · 09-28-05, 02:55 AM

Fixxer,

Please send your account details to assistance@sportsbookreview.com so that we may inquire on your behalf. It would be helpful if you could include your location, the date you deposited and the rule in question. Hopefully management will be available this morning to address you issue.

**pags11** · 09-28-05, 04:10 AM

didn't know they could specify bonuses to people from different countries...sounds a little weird to me...

**natrass** · 09-28-05, 08:07 AM

There's a bit of a scene in Europe where basically the bookies do not like to trade with East Europeans.

I have never found out why ... but its routine for them to be accused of cheating. We're not talking the odd case or the odd bookie .. its routine.

As I say, I make no judgement because I dont know what they know, etc but if the OP is from Eastern Europe it wouldnt suprise me. (I believe betonstars-ensnare-me was from Eastern Europe ... typically, he never answered my question about where he is from).

I wish I knew th WHOLE story.

**THESCOUT** · 09-28-05, 08:24 AM

good luck

**Terris** · 09-28-05, 11:24 AM

so when will Royal finally collapse, and stiff all the remaining players?
Wouldnt surprise me if it would be as early as tomorrow, tbh

**fixxer** · 09-28-05, 12:32 PM

Hello!

Sorry for the late reply, I wasn't near a computer.

I am from Hungary.

I will send the details to Mr Dozer, thank you in advance for the help

**fixxer** · 09-28-05, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by natrass

There's a bit of a scene in Europe where basically the bookies do not like to trade with East Europeans.

I have never found out why ... but its routine for them to be accused of cheating. We're not talking the odd case or the odd bookie .. its routine.

As I say, I make no judgement because I dont know what they know, etc but if the OP is from Eastern Europe it wouldnt suprise me. (I believe betonstars-ensnare-me was from Eastern Europe ... typically, he never answered my question about where he is from).

I wish I knew th WHOLE story.

I don't think that if somebody is from an Eastern European country, that means he is a cheater....Many casinos and bookies restrict for example Danish and Turkish customers etc...

**fixxer** · 09-28-05, 12:54 PM

Many bookie restricts the countries valid for bonus, and there are many bookies with country specific bonuses. There isn't any problem with this, but to change the rules afterwards, and apply it to "before" requests is not fair....

**fixxer** · 09-28-05, 01:00 PM

Sorry, I didn't include in my first post, that the bonus (which is still offered with country restrictions) is a "No-deposit bonus" for new customers.

AK · 09-28-05, 01:17 PM

just received 4 spam letters within 3 minutes from Royal.

**fixxer** · 09-28-05, 01:23 PM

I received this "4 spam letters" in 24 hours, which is not bad, but I guess to receive them in 3 mins is far more fun

**magnavox** · 09-28-05, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by fixxer

Sorry, I didn't include in my first post, that the bonus (which is still offered with country restrictions) is a "No-deposit bonus" for new customers.

There is a big problem with those kind of bonuses, many scammers seem to set up mutliple aco****s for such offers.

I beleive the 'standard' deposit bonuses are still valid for you?

**fixxer** · 09-28-05, 01:57 PM

You cannot create multiply accounts with them, because you have to download a software and register in the software to receive the bonus, and I think it only lets you to do this once. (no, I didn't try to register more than one account)

It's always a silly thing to register multiply accounts, and lose all because of this....

Yes, the standard bonuses are valid for me.
For example they offer 100% cash bonus for deposits of max 100 USD, which sounds really great, but after they change rules afterwards, I rather not deposit money to Betroyal

AK · 09-28-05, 01:57 PM

Magna, I have 7 accounts with Royal and they don't care.

There not solid anymore

**fixxer** · 09-28-05, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by AK

Magna, I have 7 accounts with Royal and they don't care.

There not solid anymore

7? LOL not bad

**magnavox** · 09-28-05, 02:05 PM

AK, how's IRAQ? Do you play from there? LOL

**ego74** · 09-28-05, 02:09 PM

why people still post up and bet at Royal is beyong me

AK · 09-28-05, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by magnavox

AK, how's IRAQ? Do you play from there? LOL

Im the guy that hides behind enemy lines and plays blackjack online all day.

remember to always hit on 12 no matter what the dealer is showing.

**BuddyBear** · 09-28-05, 02:56 PM

Why do people still bother with Royal....It seems that all stuff about Royal is negative. In my opinion, stay away from that book regardless of how good the bonus seems.

**pags11** · 09-28-05, 03:51 PM

exactly buddybear...I haven't read anything positive on these guys...

**Illusion** · 09-28-05, 08:52 PM

I would be amazed if I ever saw a possitive thread about Royal.

**fixxer** · 10-01-05, 08:53 PM

Hello!

The problem is solved, Thanks to Mr Dozer!

Fixxer

**raiders72001** · 10-01-05, 09:04 PM

Since there is a lot of talk about the Europeans I'll add this.

Online casinos owned by Marty Jensen once banned the whole country of Denmark and confiscated all their funds.

I hate to make this generalization but this is what the book's point of view is on Europeans.

They say that there is a higher percentage of bonus abuse with Europeans compared to non- Europeans.

Whether this is true or not I have no idea.

**marc** · 10-01-05, 09:07 PM

I'm sure ROyal got swamped with bonus whores opening multiple accounts. I'm sure the more computer savvy players downlaoded the software, played enough hands to withdraw thier money (or scalped it to a friend), deleted all the files, and the downloaded the software again under a different name. My guess is, if they suddeny banned players from Hungry, they must have got hit hard, by Hungarian whores.

**tacomax** · 10-01-05, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Since there is a lot of talk about the Europeans I'll add this.

Online casinos owned by Marty Jensen once banned the whole country of Denmark and confiscated all their funds.

I hate to make this generalization but this is what the book's point of view is on Europeans.

They say that there is a higher percentage of bonus abuse with Europeans compared to non- Europeans.

Whether this is true or not I have no idea.

You're both right and wrong in your thinkings here.

A few years ago it was very easy to take advantage of casino bonuses - you stuck in $100, they gave you $100 and you had to make $200 worth of wagers. Obviously this not only attracted the gamblers but also the bonus hunters. Lots of people in lots of countries too advantage of this, Denmark specifically took this to another level. People there saw the financial opportunity and did the offers themselves, gained affiliate money by referring their family, their friends etc. Basically milking the offers for everything possible, and everyone was doing it. There were even links on TV showing how you could make $$$$$s from the online casinos.

Unfortunately the casinos didn't catch on - they foolishly thought that with all the sign-ups in Denmark that there was a massive untapped gambling market there. So they upped their advertising and got even more players. Who claimed even more bonuses. Then suddenly the casinos caught on - most of their players were milking the bonuses, leading to a blanket ban or much worse bonus rollover terms for the Danish.

Aside from the Danish, there are now bonus restrictions on a number of countries. Some of these are in the poorer East European countries, plus also countries like Iraq & Afghanistan. The reasoning behind this is that you're not going to attract a lot of high-rollers from Afghanistan (OK, maybe the Taliban), but you're going to attract people who milk the bonuses. And if you're living in Afghanistan and manage to milk $50 a month from a casino then it's a big deal. That could be a few months wages.

So, I don't think it's a case of Europeans being targetted. More a case of specific countries and/or poorer areas which are tagged for restrictions on their account.

**tacomax** · 10-01-05, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Online casinos owned by Marty Jensen once banned the whole country of Denmark and confiscated all their funds.

That's hardly fair. If a casino puts forward an offer which gets taken up by everyone and his wife, then they should be obliged to fulfill their end of the deal. If they've mis-judged the demand, then more fool them.

Unfortunately, it's dicks like AK who admit to 7 accounts at the Royal which makes them come down hard on innocent individuals. Rogue players are just as bad as rogue books.

**raiders72001** · 10-01-05, 09:44 PM

He also once banned a town. I think it was in South Dakota.

**tacomax** · 10-01-05, 09:49 PM

Banning a single town? I have to admit that's quite funny.

**Bill Dozer** · 10-01-05, 10:48 PM

Glad we could help Fixxer. GL on your plays!

**fixxer** · 10-02-05, 09:23 AM

Marc!

Nobody said that they only banned players from Hungary, and at least please write the country's name correctly. The promotion only includes a few countries now, but not any from Eastern Europe....so they banned many countries.....I am sure that there are more bonus whores in Europe....or not. It doesn't matter in this case, but please before accusing, read the posts carefully.

AK · 10-02-05, 12:16 PM

Unfortunately, it's s like AK who admit to 7 accounts at the Royal which makes them come down hard on innocent individuals. Rogue players are just as bad as rogue books.

But this is the catch Taco. They know I have 7 accounts and let me use any at any givin time.

Reminds me of the days apex let people use there "sisters" and "brothers" to get the great signup bonus.

**juuso** · 10-04-05, 07:00 PM

I think i and fixxer read about this promotion at the same forum. I'm from Finland and was able to get it immediately after sending my id by talking with the live support. I guess when more people read the post they were flooded with requests and decided to credit them within 24h. Next day i read at the forum they changed the rules that only residents of the U.S., U.K., Ireland, Australia, Germany, and Canada are eligible. A lot people were not given this bonus.

Anyway, i completed the wagering requirements in 2 days and was a bit skeptical but hopefull as other forum member already got his winnings by western union. I requested a neteller withdrawal and received $195 in less than 24h. i had $210 in my account and they took $15 for neteller transaction fees.

I've read the section in sportsbookreview about them and a few negative posts, but i have to say they we're very good for me. Winning $200 without making any deposit doesn't happend everyday.