Should sbr be reponsible in reimbursing players?

**Kindred** · 12-18-12, 01:03 PM

Maybe when covers reimburses beted scam victims

**CanuckG** · 12-18-12, 01:06 PM

Put em to jail

**playersonly69** · 12-18-12, 01:07 PM

Not at all.

sbr had nothing to do with it

**No coincidences** · 12-18-12, 01:07 PM

Yeah, good luck with that.

**darkhat** · 12-18-12, 01:08 PM

obviously not

**k13** · 12-18-12, 01:09 PM

You play at your own risk unfortunately.

**tblues2005** · 12-18-12, 01:10 PM

I would send funds out to members here if I was them from advertisements that they accepted funds from. That would be the right thing to do here on this issue. It is just a shock that this happened here.

**CanuckG** · 12-18-12, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by playersonly69

Not at all.

sbr had nothing to do with it

**mw00** · 12-18-12, 01:12 PM

you have a better chance of santa bringing you that money.

**CollegePro** · 12-18-12, 01:13 PM

sbr doesn't owe anyone.. I just wish they act little quicker and release everything they knew about this place since 3-4 weeks ago... instead, they kept it low and didn't say shit... where there were numerous thread being opened about betislands, nobody from SBR came in to make a comment.. so again, SBR does not owe us anything but they lost all the credibility... fukk sbr

**ApricotSinner32** · 12-18-12, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by playersonly69

Not at all.

sbr had nothing to do with it

Without sbr's touting of the book being a good/safe place to play they wouldn't have gotten 90% of their customer base.

**Bostongambler** · 12-18-12, 01:13 PM

Of course not.

**CanuckG** · 12-18-12, 01:14 PM

Business as usual.

**CollegePro** · 12-18-12, 01:14 PM

o..and i had a chance to get bailed out but SBR's stupid policy!! thanks SBR!

**King Mayan** · 12-18-12, 01:16 PM

I have a 00.01 balance at betislands..

I demand my money hijodeputas.

**VegasInsider** · 12-18-12, 01:16 PM

No.

**tblues2005** · 12-18-12, 01:17 PM

First thing that SBR should do is put out a video and explain the players of what happened here and then figure out what is fair to send out checks to people that had balances there from what they received in advertisements from them. I would do something like this to let everyone know that SBR is for the players when it comes to this and they got a bad advertiser.

**TheMoneyShot** · 12-18-12, 01:17 PM

It's unfortunate that SBR is in this spot. I've learned more here about sportsbooks than anywhere else. In fact, I only research data here. The people who are disappointed in SBR... take a step back and think about where you were before you came to this website? Chances are... you would of lost your funds to some chop shop. How can SBR insure you on your deposit or what you won from a book? They can't. SBR doesn't want to lose or ruin their own reputation.... they will do the best they can. It's all you can do.

**SamDiamond** · 12-18-12, 01:19 PM

SBR doesn't owe anyone cash.

They just needed to explain the situation, and do what they could in their power to get players paid.

**Darkside Magick** · 12-18-12, 01:19 PM

All sportsbooks are advertised as is

**crustyme** · 12-18-12, 01:20 PM

should nbc, cbs and abc be responsible for all those deaths in pintos and explorers since they advertised them?

the answer is no.

**str** · 12-18-12, 01:22 PM

Offshore has been buyer beware since it's inception.

SBR was created because it was a buyer beware market.

Before overreacting, let's give SBR time to look into this and let's see what they say as well as what happens.

Without this place, most would be completely lost when it comes to strength of book, and some would be lost period.

**tblues2005** · 12-18-12, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by SamDiamond

SBR doesn't owe anyone cash.

They just needed to explain the situation, and do what they could in their power to get players paid.

That is exactly what they should do. Your correct Sam. If they got suckered into a bad book knowing this then they should send a little bit out to the members there.

**tarheelfan72** · 12-18-12, 03:19 PM

SBR is in the same catch 22 as the rest of us. If you announce a book is in trouble you are going to save some people a deposit and you are going to lose everyone else their balances. Period.

Most books can barely survive a bad thread here, much less a news report from SBR announcing they are in trouble. Once the snowball starts you can say goodbye to the book. No new deposits = book is going to give up and close shop.

How long do you think BI would have survived without Jon coming on here for damage control every time something went wrong? How many of you would still be holding out hope right now if Jon was still on here playing the "processor" card. Jon may be a bullshit artist but he would not have been doing the people with large balances any favors to admit the book was on the edge of a cliff either. Whatever hope they had for the public to get destroyed one playoff weekend and BI to start recovering would have just been lost that much sooner.

**marcojuiceman** · 12-18-12, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by CollegePro

sbr doesn't owe anyone.. I just wish they act little quicker and release everything they knew about this place since 3-4 weeks ago... instead, they kept it low and didn't say shit... where there were numerous thread being opened about betislands, nobody from SBR came in to make a comment.. so again, SBR does not owe us anything but they lost all the credibility... fukk sbr

kind of like Lowvig

**Mikail** · 12-18-12, 03:26 PM

SBR owes players of Betislands who are being ripped off and explanation. It's safe to say that 95%+ of them here played there because of Sbr's approval of Betislands. Sbr's failure to communicate possible problems because of it's financial interest is nothing more than criminal behavior. If they was really the watchdog they claim to be I would think we'd of heard a statement regarding the stability of Betislands by sbr weeks ago. In the future I'd beware of the next book to "pop up" like BetOnline, Betislands, Betphoenix etc. Learn from the past and don't forget Sbr's part in this by being silent during the whole thing to this point other than a drop from "B" to "C" rating which occurred I believe yesterday. Very concerning.

**tto827** · 12-18-12, 03:27 PM

SBR owes nothing to anyone. As crusty pointed out, you are not responsible for those you allow to advertise. Also, SBR_John stated that they run a business here, and need to collect add revenue. Due to US laws, Coke, Pepsi, major corporations with well respected names are not going to advertise here. They get money from those who are willing to give it. Should their ratings be less directly tied to what portion of revenue that book provides, sure. But there is a lot of us with thousands of posts, so clearly this place is doing something right.

Hopefully they become more transparent in the future, but for now, unfortunately I think this is the best you are going to get.

**marcojuiceman** · 12-18-12, 03:30 PM

They couldnt even Afford to take $4000 bets.. There Promotion was a Scam just to bait more funds inn

**tto827** · 12-18-12, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by Mikail

SBR owes players of Betislands who are being ripped off and explanation. It's safe to say that 95%+ of them here played there because of Sbr's approval of Betislands. Sbr's failure to communicate possible problems because of it's financial interest is nothing more than criminal behavior. If they was really the watchdog they claim to be I would think we'd of heard a statement regarding the stability of Betislands by sbr weeks ago. In the future I'd beware of the next book to "pop up" like Betonline, Betislands, Betphoenix etc. Learn from the past and don't forget Sbr's part in this by being silent during the whole thing to this point other than a drop from "B" to "C" rating which occurred I believe yesterday. Very concerning.

Exactly what law would they be breaking in any jurisdiction making this "criminal" behavior? I agree that the pop up books are bad, hence why I am hesitant to go anywhere besides the CRIS books, bovada, and 5dimes. If SBR stated the issues, deposits stop coming in, and people have no hope of getting their money, sure its a tough call, but if the books have a good week, people get paid and the issue never arises. Not the most honest thing to do, but you could definitely argue it was in the best interest of the players. They obviously didn't have the funds 5 weeks ago, so hopefully you didn't deposit anymore there, don't see how it would have changed a damn thing. SBR risked its reputation to those who can't see the bigger picture, in hope that it would work out for the best.

**Deuce** · 12-18-12, 03:32 PM

**Naz18** · 12-18-12, 03:37 PM

SBR doesn't owe anybody shit....you as the gambler depositing money is assuming all the risk...SBR is here just as a guideline..

**tatommack** · 12-18-12, 03:42 PM

I feel sorry for guys with 50k balances but you should only be gambling offshore for funses. if you can afford to have that much in a sportsbook you are not a recreational player. you should have someone in Vegas making bets for you. hell Im a small time player and i have a guy in Vegas to place any bets over 1000.

**KGambler** · 12-18-12, 03:49 PM

SBR claimed, time and again, that they had confirmed that Betislands' ownership group was well funded and well respected in the industry.

They now need to tell us who these "established" "financially secure" industry insiders are. We need to know what other books they have been or are associated with.

SBR owes us at least that much.

**ApricotSinner32** · 12-18-12, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by Naz18

SBR doesn't owe anybody shit....you as the gambler depositing money is assuming all the risk...SBR is here just as a guideline..

Betislands blew up with clientele because of sbr's verbal backing. If sbr was a guideline they guided many off of a virtual gambling cliff

CHEERS WALKER!