SBR Lines Are Blowing Away Competiton

**Trouble Maker** · 09-24-05, 12:32 PM

I keep getting a JIT error with the G & J service, can anyone help me? Is it my computer? If I just leave it open, it crashes.

**Bill Dozer** · 09-24-05, 12:33 PM

I am watching GJ and SBR screens. It appears we have a jump on them, at least on the college games I'm watching.

Nice job fellas.

**jjgold** · 09-24-05, 12:39 PM

Billy see my other thread

We need a shake up with tech guys

**GJMike** · 09-24-05, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by Bill Dozer

I am watching GJ and SBR screens. It appears we have a jump on them, at least on the college games I'm watching.

Nice job fellas.

Bill, no way. I just now tracked and every move I saw we had you by 10-15 seconds minimum. I was watching College Football. I setup my screen to have the 10 books you had and beat it to every move.

As far as the JIT error, I will help you out, email me gjupdate@gjupdate.com with the details and we will have it straightened out.

**Trouble Maker** · 09-24-05, 02:02 PM

I dont know, they look right on top each other to me. I like being able to see the come back on both sides of the line. Seems like this free version is going to cause problems for the pay services.

**GJMike** · 09-24-05, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by Trouble Maker

I dont know, they look right on top each other to me. I like being able to see the come back on both sides of the line. Seems like this free version is going to cause problems for the pay services.

I dont believe the free services will be any trouble for the pay services. An island or a bookmaker cant work just off a free lines screen. There is so much more invovled. Also, if you are looking at both (its tough because theirs isnt in rotation order) you will see them miss updates and be slower on the rest. It is close, and its a great free product.

Like I said, the biggest compliment I can give to them is to release my own free service which is all but completed.

Also, the Hollywood on SBRLines is actually Allworld, not hollywood.

**jjgold** · 09-24-05, 02:09 PM

It is so close it is amazing right now

SBR is very very quick

**Bill Dozer** · 09-24-05, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by GJMike

Bill, no way. I just now tracked and every move I saw we had you by 10-15 seconds minimum. I was watching College Football. I setup my screen to have the 10 books you had and beat it to every move.

As far as the JIT error, I will help you out, email me gjupdate@gjupdate.com with the details and we will have it straightened out.

Hey Mike. How goes it?

Yea, I wouldn't lie to ya. SBR is not in front on all games but I'm seeing it. #345 ND game for one and TCU is what I was watching earlier. I'm using Dave's acct. login.

**GJMike** · 09-24-05, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by Bill Dozer

Hey Mike. How goes it?

Yea, I wouldn't lie to ya. SBR is not in front on all games but I'm seeing it. #345 ND game for one and TCU is what I was watching earlier. I'm using Dave's acct. login.

I havent been able to see one yet where SBR is in front, but hard to track because rotation numbers out of whack. Also, you see my comment about hollywood?

**Agent Smith** · 09-24-05, 02:25 PM

Thats not true. I just got off with Hollywood and here is a cut and paste from the chat.

BJ - Hollywood says:
I'm going to go into our system like a phone clerk and compare lines with our holly system and the sbrlines thing
BJ - Hollywood says:
i'm looking at mlb and i can't find any discrepancies
BJ - Hollywood says:
let me go to nfl
BJ - Hollywood says:
nfl lines are matching up exactly
BJ - Hollywood says:
tell them that I logged into the account and the lines are the same

ps. we are using holly's -107 lines? Are yours -110?

**jjgold** · 09-24-05, 02:29 PM

Good Work Smitty

**GJMike** · 09-24-05, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by Agent Smith

Thats not true. I just got off with Hollywood and here is a cut and paste from the chat.

BJ - Hollywood says:
I'm going to go into our system like a phone clerk and compare lines with our holly system and the sbrlines thing
BJ - Hollywood says:
i'm looking at mlb and i can't find any discrepancies
BJ - Hollywood says:
let me go to nfl
BJ - Hollywood says:
nfl lines are matching up exactly
BJ - Hollywood says:
tell them that I logged into the account and the lines are the same

ps. we are using holly's -107 lines? Are yours -110?

As far as I know Hollywood/Allworld same thing except Allworld is reduced juice. So technically you are using Allworld lines.

**Agent Smith** · 09-24-05, 02:33 PM

FYI,

https://www.Hollywood107.com

Other way around bud. Hollywood is the big Daddy, Allworld copies Hollywood.

**GJMike** · 09-24-05, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by Agent Smith

FYI,

www.Hollywood107.com

Not where your banner links.

**Agent Smith** · 09-24-05, 02:36 PM

http://www.hollywoodsportsbook.com/index.cfm?ref=sbrlines

"Lay 107 everyday"

**jjgold** · 09-24-05, 08:18 PM

I see no flaws in program now

Ran perfect today for 14 hrs and hit every number

**Brick Tamland** · 09-24-05, 10:23 PM

can someone explain how the injury reports work? I figure if there is some real good info that betcris will already have it and the line will have moved before I can use it.

Sounds like aol when the sales lady tells me I still need it for the "special features" I cant get anywhere else. Different ways to package the same internet...

**Senator7** · 09-24-05, 10:45 PM

I don't think any line service is going to give you an advantage against CRIS, Pinnacle, or Olympic, but it could certainly give you an advantage against some other good books. I would assume that most of the sportsbooks subscribe to either GJ or DB, so they're getting the same info the player is at the same time the player is getting it.

Senator 7

**SBR_John** · 09-24-05, 10:45 PM

We have some fun but I appreciate Mike's comments. SBR does not want to compete with Mike's service or DonBest, both of which are very expensive. Their product offers lines that are probably a little faster and also includes real-time injury updates. The SBR product is geared towards everyday players and instead of injury feeds offers the best handicapping stats and quick login ability.

The SBRLines product is the working mans DonBest/G&J and will always be FREE. Its not a tease product to upsale players down the road. Its the real deal, its real fast and its real FREE.

We want to build the best FREE line service bar none with only the best books.

**Senator7** · 09-24-05, 10:47 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

We want to build the best FREE line service bar none with only the best books.

Two thumbs up and a pat on the back for a job well done so far!

Senator 7

**Brick Tamland** · 09-24-05, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by Senator7

I don't think any line service is going to give you an advantage against CRIS, Pinnacle, or Olympic, but it could certainly give you an advantage against some other good books. I would assume that most of the sportsbooks subscribe to either GJ or DB, so they're getting the same info the player is at the same time the player is getting it.

Senator 7

well thats what I was thinking too. I have tried a lot of the books and the only ones worth tracking are the ones that the other books are copying. I would like to see Grandes lines.

SBR does not want to compete with Mike's service or DonBest, both of which are very expensive. Their product offers lines that are probably a little faster and also includes real-time injury updates.

The pay services must have seen this as inevitible. I think some people to use sbrllines are former customers. got to be

**Senator7** · 09-24-05, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

SBR does not want to compete with Mike's service or DonBest, both of which are very expensive.

For not wanting to compete with them, you sure are doing a good job!

Senator 7

**jjgold** · 09-25-05, 07:28 AM

I think the paid services are very worried right now as it wil be hard to get new customers in the future.

**GJMike** · 09-25-05, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

I think the paid services are very worried right now as it wil be hard to get new customers in the future.

I will answer this question the best I know how:

The guys that are willing to pay $250/$550 know why they are paying it, and know the reasons why they cant use a free service. I really dont see G&J or DB losing current customers to a free service. What we might lose is the occasional guy that is a smaller bettor, that would have otherwise tried our product and been sucked in. For awhile, he may think that a free service will do.

Now, on the other side of that, SBR Free Lines et al, will actually help G&JUpdate/DB in the long run. Just like casinos offer 'play' accounts, we should too. The best way for us to get customers is to teach people how to use a line service. Believe it or not there are still so many people out there that dont even know what a line service is, or how it can help them. The more people we teach, the bigger our customer base gets. So the free services are actually breeding new customers daily.

This free idea actually should have been thought about by GJUpdate/DB and put into play awhile ago. Why it wasnt I dont know, but I can assure you this, both companies will have one sooner than later. Not for competition, but for the reasons I stated above.

**jjgold** · 09-25-05, 11:35 AM

Mikey good post but I do not beleive you will be able to charge for your beta product you are working on (Web based version)

**Trouble Maker** · 09-25-05, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by GJMike

This free idea actually should have been thought about by GJUpdate/DB and put into play awhile ago.

I think he is saying its free. Don Best and GJ are both great services, they both offer 100 times the options that SBRlines does.

SBRlines is a good product for squares but IMO it does not offer the extra things that make a DB or GJ worth the money.

GJMike is 100%, SBRlines will eventually teach the squares and get them on board with a complete package.

**jjgold** · 09-25-05, 05:15 PM

SBR is coming out with a ton of features soon

You wait and see

**Trouble Maker** · 09-25-05, 05:34 PM

regardless, SBR offers 10 books. DB and GJ offer close to 50.

you can put as many bells and whistles on 10 books as you would like. But that could never compatre to the options on a JG or DB.

**jjgold** · 09-25-05, 05:38 PM

TM..............Does it matter to you that the majoirty of books are really useless on a line screen because the lines are jsut copied from the top books that SBR has??

10 is just as good as 50 and just as effective

**Trouble Maker** · 09-25-05, 05:46 PM

well duh, thats exactly why I want more books. Then I can see who moves slowest and when I see a number I want to hit I have a selection of slow movers. You must agree that yes the books do copy one another but some do it slower than others and for this reason the more books you can look at the better off you are.

Thats why a professional would have the need to pay for a service and a square would not.