Originally posted on 08/27/2020:

Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
Yeah, but there will always be the bad cops and there are institutional issues in some places.

But even then, why the hell is there absolutely no discussion about how to behave when a cop has a gun pulled on you?

It seems like everyone, including a ton of people at SBR, want the phrase "stop or I'll shoot" to be a bluff.

I advocate situations where they don't have to say that at all, but that's not where we are now. So in light of that, why is there no discussion on how to behave now. It's pretty clear, injustice or not, excessive or not, the a common thread of resisting arrest and putting the police in dangerous situations is never, ever addressed.

There isn't even a common thread from the police perspective. There's little evidence of racism in any of these videos. Floyd wasn't racism, this recent jacob shooting wasn't racism. Sometimes it's a power tripping cop, sometimes it's a situation that never should have been, sometimes it's outright self defense for the cop. Sometimes it's jsut the cops fault, sometimes it's shared responsibilty, and sometimes it's a shootout.

But it's almost always resisitng arrest. The few situations where it is not are even more horrible, even more tragic, and even more avoidable.

So what the fuk? Even the black community, including pro athletes, have given up on black men, completely given up. No fatherly advice on how to watch out for cops, no education on how the constitution works, nothing.

They've left there own people for dead.

So sad.
For the same reason we don't have the conversation about touching hot stoves, or poisonous snakes, or doing backflips off the roof of your house... Because it's common sense. When did common sense require a college course? Even a foreigner for whom English isn't their native tongue would understand the tonal cues and body language of an officer not wanting you to move, much less fight back or enter your vehicle.

There's no need for kid gloves. We're talking about adults with blatant disregard for authority, both in the history of their actions in the community and their interactions with law enforcement that lead to sensational outcomes like the Blake incident. He knew what the officers were demanding of him and made the conscious decision to do the exact opposite. Nobody demonstrated a lower value on the life of Jacob Blake than Jacob Blake himself.