Originally posted on 10/30/2015:

Quote Originally Posted by muldoon View Post
#1 - There is ZERO large sample evidence that beating the shit out your kid turns them into law abiding great citizens. Anecdotal sure. Plenty of overweight degenerate gamblers who will claim that having their parents tan their hide turned them into these fantastic members of society.

The one thing that's been repeatedly proven to work when disciplining kids of all ages - is loss. Ie: Remove them from situations they want to be in, technology you can control, money that you give them access to etc.

Bitch about the generation raising them. What a cop-out to blame things like laws etc. The idea that children somehow just become deviants without the complicity of the generation above is laughable. Very few teens or younger can afford the gaming consoles, cell phones etc on their own. Are GenX and GenY such pussies that they can't say no to their kids?

You blame the law and society. Give me a fuckin break.

FYI - most parents DON'T do a good job. If they did, you wouldn't see skyrocketing obesity numbers in CHILDREN, dropping core scholastic skills, and overall poor stewardship of our own communities.

So the law prevents you from properly feeding your kids, making them work for big ticket electronics, and grounding/restricting their access to things like TV and internet? Crazy laws.
Shut up Muldoon,you get on my nerves.