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  • MatI
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-17-11
    • 5200

    #71
    Originally posted by 5mike5
    U have a point joe. I posted earlier any and every team will try crazy strategy even at tracks that want usually considered strategy tracks. Not to mention might see a wreck or 2 of the leader on purpose late on short tracks from longshots. I always take longshots every week so I don't mind. As long as that's only difference.
    Yeah agreed. We will see a lot more drivers/teams taking risks. Guys will be more willing to gamble on strategy if it can get them a win as there is not as big of a downside to the gamble failing.

    And a driver will be more willing to go for that do or die last lap lunge on JJ for the win, especially when you know JJ already has a win and won't hurt his championship chances.
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    • rickie65
      SBR MVP
      • 08-27-07
      • 2894

      #72
      what a f*cked up idea. So Jimmie could win every chase race and get caught up in a Timmy Hill spin at Homestead and not be champion.


      Originally posted by Vegas39
      yes will be like hitting lottery for teams like say Mears or Nemechek

      Nemechek.....

      I don't care what the format is I think it's safe to leve old Joe out of the chase conversation lol
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      • 5mike5
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 09-21-11
        • 51814

        #73
        My god ruetimann would have made chase a few years ago. LMAO. Embarrassing
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        • Vegas39
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 09-22-11
          • 30686

          #74
          Originally posted by rickie65
          what a f*cked up idea. So Jimmie could win every chase race and get caught up in a Timmy Hill spin at Homestead and not be champion.





          Nemechek.....

          I don't care what the format is I think it's safe to leve old Joe out of the chase conversation lol
          Was trying to think of a severely underfunded team who even 3 chase races would make year a huge deal
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          • Jmac926
            SBR Sharp
            • 02-20-10
            • 251

            #75
            Originally posted by MatI
            I'm with everyone else here, don't like this change at all. But hey, I hate the previous chase system and wish we went back to every race counting equally.

            Since these changes are all about trying to keep Nascar relevant during the NFL season, and in the long run, will not work. I wish they would just bite the bullet and reduce the the season to 26 races. IMO this is the only long term fix that will keep nascar viable, but no way tracks will want to give up a date and no way nascar will be willing to reduce the tv contracts like that.
            Come on now, that would be 10 less money making opportunities
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            • 5mike5
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 09-21-11
              • 51814

              #76
              Yeah I can't agree with just 26 races either Mati just for my $ making would take a 33% hit probably. No way to know just an example. my wallet can't handle that. I just came off the best chase I've ever had profit wise. Lol. Usually my weak point in the season though
              Last edited by 5mike5; 02-01-14, 08:36 PM.
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              • Vegas39
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                • 09-22-11
                • 30686

                #77
                Yeah with tracks depending on 2 races ( if only we had a 2nd) . Don't see it happening
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                • rob
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-23-06
                  • 3007

                  #78
                  Regarding the new format applied to 2013...

                  Eleven of the 13 winners would have qualified for the Chase. Stewart and Vickers would not since they didn't attempt to qualify for every race.
                  The five drivers making the Chase on points would have been Earnhardt, Bowyer, Kurt Busch, Gordon and McMurray.
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                  • Vegas39
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                    • 09-22-11
                    • 30686

                    #79
                    Originally posted by rob
                    Regarding the new format applied to 2013...

                    Eleven of the 13 winners would have qualified for the Chase. Stewart and Vickers would not since they didn't attempt to qualify for every race.
                    The five drivers making the Chase on points would have been Earnhardt, Bowyer, Kurt Busch, Gordon and McMurray.

                    Truex would've as he has a win and wouldn't of needed Bowyer spin
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                    • Optional
                      Administrator
                      • 06-10-10
                      • 60707

                      #80
                      Originally posted by rob
                      Regarding the new format applied to 2013...

                      Eleven of the 13 winners would have qualified for the Chase. Stewart and Vickers would not since they didn't attempt to qualify for every race.
                      The five drivers making the Chase on points would have been Earnhardt, Bowyer, Kurt Busch, Gordon and McMurray.
                      Have you read the part where it's at NASCAR discretion if a driver has not attempted to qualify for every race. So if the chase field does not suit NASCAR they will just change it.
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                      • Vegas39
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                        • 09-22-11
                        • 30686

                        #81
                        So now penalties are ranging from P1-to P6 . if assesed a P6 and were race winner. win doesn't count towards chase
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                        • Optional
                          Administrator
                          • 06-10-10
                          • 60707

                          #82
                          Originally posted by Vegas39
                          So now penalties are ranging from P1-to P6 . if assessed a P6 and were race winner. win doesn't count towards chase
                          Oh gawd... seriously, these fukkers don't give a rats ass about racing. Real racing. Just manufacturing some more interest any way they can, for right now.

                          Basically what they are saying is, just like the at NASCAR discretion drivers who didnt attempt every race can still be in chase, this shit is simply to allow whatever decison suits the PR dept on the day to be enforced.
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                          • Crony
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 02-24-13
                            • 113

                            #83
                            2nd segment in the chase - Kansas/Charlotte/Talladega looks like the key to me. Could easily see the years dominant driver without a win at Kansas/Charlotte and get taken out of the chase at Talladega.
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                            • uncle vinny
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 08-02-13
                              • 385

                              #84
                              But with 8 moving on after dega, think top dogs should be good. But, i agree thats where the drama of dega gets tested. I think you sed a 200mph parade thats keeps the top5 safe and a non winner going all out for the win. Guys 8 thru 12 without a win could be in play as race winner
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                              • Crony
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 02-24-13
                                • 113

                                #85
                                8 move on after Dega, but you could easily have 3 different chase winners in the 3 races.
                                3 + 5 out of 9 move on from Talladega.

                                Any driver who wrecks at Talladega and does not have a win somewhat likely to finish in the bottom half of the 9 who did not win a race in the segment.
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                                • yisman
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 09-01-08
                                  • 75682

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by Vegas39
                                  ok was just reading under this new system had it been in place last year your champ would've been Dale jr

                                  http://nascarnomics.com/appendix-points/

                                  If you needed more evidence that the new system sucks, this is it.
                                  [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                  [/quote]

                                  [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                  • uncle vinny
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 08-02-13
                                    • 385

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by Crony
                                    8 move on after Dega, but you could easily have 3 different chase winners in the 3 races.
                                    3 + 5 out of 9 move on from Talladega.

                                    Any driver who wrecks at Talladega and does not have a win somewhat likely to finish in the bottom half of the 9 who did not win a race in the segment.
                                    agree, however if jj, denny and harvick get thru could be lights out for the rest..those next 3 tracks are easily those 3 in the final
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