derby future pool 2

[JBEX]

#7 greatest honour (50-1)


you are imo getting ml value because he didn't break his maiden till his 4th start..on the other hand proven at route distances and was pace compromised (closing into slow)..solid figures..nice stalking running style..classy route pedigree,homebred by tapit and out of a street cry mare..trained by shug ,one of the best horsemen around


opens noon tomorrow and closes at 6pm sunday

[JBEX]

https://www.kentuckyderby.com/wager/future-wager/derby-pool-2

[BOA12]

#7 greatest honour (50-1) Lucky 7, 2 Y/O memory. Did you ever play greatest honour, to your memory? BOL J, sounds Greaaat!


you are imo getting ml value because he didn't break his maiden till his 4th start..on the other hand proven at route distances and was pace compromised (closing into slow)..solid figures..nice stalking running style..classy route pedigree,homebred by tapit and out of a street cry mare..trained by shug ,one of the best horsemen around


opens noon tomorrow and closes at 6pm sunday

Lucky #7, 2 Y/O memories. U ever play greatest honour, to your memory? BOl on the future, as gift 2you, in the present.

[JBEX]

Lucky #7, 2 Y/O memories. U ever play greatest honour, to your memory? BOl on the future, as gift 2you, in the present.

thanks..I never did ..when I look at these types of bets it's almost always without a horse in mind ..just look at the pp's like I'm capping a race..my biggest concern is he was sitting off extremely slow paces..a fast pace like the derby may leave him pretty far back..on the other hand closing into slow makes an effort that much better..cup half full or empty depending on how you view it

[BOA12]

thanks..I never did ..when I look at these types of bets it's almost always without a horse in mind ..just look at the pp's like I'm capping a race..my biggest concern is he was sitting off extremely slow paces..a fast pace like the derby may leave him pretty far back..on the other hand closing into slow makes an effort that much better..cup half full or empty depending on how you view it

I believe, Ability Times, made down the stretch. Separates them, from the pack. Going W/,what #7 has given. NICE.

[JBEX]

I believe, Ability Times, made down the stretch. Separates them, from the pack. Going W/,what #7 has given. NICE.

thanks b o a ..gotta have some luck but fun to take an early position

[JBEX]

https://www.kentuckyderby.com/wager/...r/derby-pool-2

real time odds updates also i believe

[JBEX]

closed @ 53-1 with $73k in the pool..betting goes till sunday at 6pm..of all the horses that didn't run (all besides caddo river who blew them away in the southwest stakes) he went off percent-wise closest to his morning line..all went off above their's except the afforementioned caddo river

[JBEX]

closed @ 53-1 with $73k in the pool..betting goes till sunday at 6pm..of all the horses that didn't run (all besides caddo river who blew them away in the southwest stakes) he went off percent-wise closest to his morning line..all went off above their's except the afforementioned caddo river

was very close in what I said but #11 went off at exactly his ml and #15 (30-32) actually just barely closer than him

[BOA12]

closed @ 53-1 with $73k in the pool..betting goes till sunday at 6pm..of all the horses that didn't run (all besides caddo river who blew them away in the southwest stakes) he went off percent-wise closest to his morning line..all went off above their's except the afforementioned caddo river

Check the machine at OTB 2day, making 2 separate tickets, $2Win; one 4me, one 4U. The honourable thing 2DO.

[JBEX]

Check the machine at OTB 2day, making 2 separate tickets, $2Win; one 4me, one 4U. The honourable thing 2DO.

very nice of you..guessing he might show up in the holy bull next week although I think that's back at a mile vs 1 1/16..would mean he's going back to one turn vs running 2 turns his last two races..not sure if shug will want to do that..we'll see

[JBEX]

running in the holy bull @ gulfstream ..be no great bargain today although he's the only one to run big races in 2 turn dirt routes..experience edge

R11 #7 (5-2)

[Easy-Rider 66]

running in the holy bull @ gulfstream ..be no great bargain today although he's the only one to run big races in 2 turn dirt routes..experience edge

R11 #7 (5-2)

easy winner good call.

[JBEX]

easy winner good call.

thanks..amazing timing as I was just going to post a link

https://youtu.be/GUlRypAmhH0

[Easy-Rider 66]

[JBEX]

good deal..thanks

[Easy-Rider 66]

good deal..thanks

[JBEX]

final odds on him pool 2 were 40-1

[JBEX]

final odds on him pool 2 were 40-1

pool 3 final odds 9-1 (3rd individual entry choice..favorites are 7-1 and 8-1)

[Easy-Rider 66]

Courtlandt Farms' Holy Bull Stakes (G3) winnerGreatest Honour is scheduled to return in the$300,000 Fasig-Tipton Fountain of Youth Stakes (G2)Feb. 27 at Gulfstream Park.The Shug McGaughey-trained son of Tapit broke hismaiden in his fourth career start Dec. 26 at Gulfstreambefore rallying from seventh to draw away by 5 3/4lengths under Jose Ortiz in the 1 1/16-mile Holy BullJan. 30. He will return at that same distance in theFountain of Youth.

[JBEX]

Courtlandt Farms' Holy Bull Stakes (G3) winnerGreatest Honour is scheduled to return in the$300,000 Fasig-Tipton Fountain of Youth Stakes (G2)Feb. 27 at Gulfstream Park.The Shug McGaughey-trained son of Tapit broke hismaiden in his fourth career start Dec. 26 at Gulfstreambefore rallying from seventh to draw away by 5 3/4lengths under Jose Ortiz in the 1 1/16-mile Holy BullJan. 30. He will return at that same distance in theFountain of Youth.

thanks..figured that's where he'd be next but wasn't aware it was next week

[JBEX]

running in the fountain of youth saturday..

R14 #8 (9-5)


looks like a fair pace which he needs to close on..no value and just rooting for him to move forward

[JBEX]

here's a good recap

https://www.paulickreport.com/news/triple-crown/greatest-honour-closes-with-a-rush-to-win-fountain-of-youth/

[Easy-Rider 66]

[JBEX]

thanks easy

[Easy-Rider 66]

thanks easy

yeah good to have it documented on the trail to 1st Sat of May. devastating turn of foot today by your horse. impressive victory to say the least.

[JBEX]

yeah good to have it documented on the trail to 1st Sat of May. devastating turn of foot today by your horse. impressive victory to say the least.

I thought he was done when papetu flew by him early on the far turn..really amazed at what he did

[Easy-Rider 66]

In addition to sharing a great sire, these two colts both were bred by their owners and share some other qualities that assist the colt's chances in the coming classics. They have a sufficiently tractable nature that allows them to be placed somewhat in racing; they have finishing speed that makes them dangerous at any distance; and they have a dominant personality that makes them want to win.
They are not, however, identical by any means.
Greatest Honour is a bay, and Essential Quality is a gray. Those are superficial differences, but more importantly, each is his own type. Greatest Honour is a big, rangy colt who is clearly growing and strengthening; his best days are ahead of him, and both his trainer and jockey believe that distance is his friend.
In contrast to the colt who is only now coming to his proper form, Essential Quality is more typical of his famous sire in size and muscularity and is a much more finished racehorse. He won his first Grade 1 last fall in the Breeders' Futurity at Keeneland, and he won the divisional championship with a smooth and professional victory over Jackie's Warrior and others in the Breeders' Cup Juvenile, the colt's second Grade 1.
The bay Greatest Honour looks more powerful in forecasting what he should be able to do, compared to what he can do now, and is the sort of colt who promises to become a genuine classic colt. The greatest barrier to that may be his paternal half-brother, Essential Quality, whose greatest asset is his speed and ability to quicken away from his competition.
Along with contrasting physiques, these two colts also have some differences in their families. Greatest Honour is out of a mare by Street Cry, whose son Street Sense won the Kentucky Derby, and that mare is a half-sister to a pair of Belmont Stakes winners: Rags to Riches (A.P. Indy) and Jazil (Seeking the Gold). This is about as stamina-rich a pedigree as we can find in America.
There can be no doubt that Essential Quality has more speed in his family. His broodmare sire is the remarkably fast Elusive Quality, and the second dam is by Storm Cat, the third dam by Fappiano. Those are high-quality speed influences, and yet each of those sires had a classic winner. Essential Quality's family breaks more toward the speed side of its heritage, however.
The dam of the champion juvenile colt is a stakes-placed half-sister to champion 2-year-old filly Folklore (Tiznow), and the third dam is a graded stakes winner whose speed and durability were her greatest assets. Yet even among the speed in this high-quality family of Essential Quality, there is evidence of stamina, including Japan's champion Contrail (Deep Impact), who is out of a half-sister to the dam of Essential Quality.
In summary, the athleticism and competitiveness of these two colts make them serious classic contenders. Will those qualities help them play Alydar and Affirmed, or Easy Goer and Sunday Silence, through the Triple Crown season? The possibility of that is enough to quicken the pulse of any racing fan.

[Easy-Rider 66]

Hey JBEX: good article on Tapit's 2 sons on derby trail your horse Greatest Honour and the gray Essential Quaility.

[JBEX]

Hey JBEX: good article on Tapit's 2 sons on derby trail your horse Greatest Honour and the gray Essential Quaility.

yeah good stuff on the pedigree..eq more speed oriented female family while gh as stamina oriented as you can get..I would never knock a horse by tapit with speed on the bottom for the derby though..as I have discussed with str (his observation) the pedigree of gh could come more into play for the belmont..couldn't be any better bred for it than gh with the tapit line doing very well in it and his dam being a half to two belmont winners ..should be entertaining and hopefully I at least get a good florida derby performance out of him

[Easy-Rider 66]

The unbeaten Into Mischief colt Life Is Good, who was the favorite for the Kentucky Derby in the latest Future Wager pool, is off the Triple Crown trail after coming out of a six-furlong breeze on Saturday morning “a little off behind,” according to his trainer, Bob Baffert.
Baffert originally said Life Is Good would be forced to miss the April 3 Runhappy Santa Anita Derby, but Daily Racing Form subsequently reported that the horse will not compete in the Triple Crown. He will be sent from his base at Santa Anita in Arcadia, Calif., to Rood and Riddle Equine Hospital in Lexington, Ky., where noted equine surgeon Dr. Larry Bramlage will conduct a thorough examination, according to DRF.com.
“It's nothing obvious but he cooled off a little off behind,” Baffert told the Paulick Report. “So he's going to miss the Santa Anita Derby and we've got to do some tests on him. The timing is not good.”
Baffert does not believe the setback will be career ending.

[JBEX]

The unbeaten Into Mischief colt Life Is Good, who was the favorite for the Kentucky Derby in the latest Future Wager pool, is off the Triple Crown trail after coming out of a six-furlong breeze on Saturday morning “a little off behind,” according to his trainer, Bob Baffert.
Baffert originally said Life Is Good would be forced to miss the April 3 Runhappy Santa Anita Derby, but Daily Racing Form subsequently reported that the horse will not compete in the Triple Crown. He will be sent from his base at Santa Anita in Arcadia, Calif., to Rood and Riddle Equine Hospital in Lexington, Ky., where noted equine surgeon Dr. Larry Bramlage will conduct a thorough examination, according to DRF.com.
“It's nothing obvious but he cooled off a little off behind,” Baffert told the Paulick Report. “So he's going to miss the Santa Anita Derby and we've got to do some tests on him. The timing is not good.”
Baffert does not believe the setback will be career ending.

yeah that's definitely good news for everybody else..he's one of the biggest, if not the biggest,derby future's favorite there has been since the bet has been available

[JBEX]

yeah that's definitely good news for everybody else..he's one of the biggest, if not the biggest,derby future's favorite there has been since the bet has been available

with him out will make mine about 4-1..I think that's ridiculous but I have him @ 10x that

[Easy-Rider 66]

with him out will make mine about 4-1..I think that's ridiculous but I have him @ 10x that

yeah your horse looks like he will be one of the favs most likely.

[JBEX]

yeah your horse looks like he will be one of the favs most likely.

florida derby this saturday..looking forward to see him run