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  • Louisvillekid1
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-17-07
    • 52143

    #1
    Single biggest edge in handicapping horse racing ...
    This is hands down #1 for me

    it’s generated from following a specific meet

    Im not saying forget times , connections , %’s, or any of the other hundreds of factors that goes into my own handicapping

    but simply knowing the horses by name , when you look to the right of the running lines

    and what they did going forward

    is what I feel separates the above average / good handicapper , into the upper echelon

    I can’t tell you how many winners I get shipping from NY ( especially now) that I can simply recall the field

    your as good as your competition, sometimes 2.5 lengths could be 5-6

    I’m dabbling in gulfstream lately and doing well, Tampa also

    and yeah I like to drink and have fun when I’m at OTB, betting cross country

    nothing wrong with that small

    but to simply answer all questions

    pick one circuit , you will known how to counter punch the dead money

    have a plan going in

    don’t chase

    I’m well rounded

    but just like a NCAAF or ncaabb sport

    focus on a conference first

    best places i go to eat specialize in one thing

    Succeed @ that first

    then dabble

    Those result running lines , are crucial too me , and is my biggest edge
  • Louisvillekid1
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-17-07
    • 52143

    #2
    Think about this

    everybody looks an nfl game

    and sees they lost to , Carolina , Nola , Atlanta

    is this sport , that might read like this MybabyBlue , Liwheezy, julio’s game


    and have no clue who those horses are

    thats truly knowing the past performances
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    • littlekona
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-19-15
      • 5242

      #3
      When I was a young lad out in AZ I followed Greyhound racing played every day Phx and Southland Park. I would know the dogs by name running styles & grade memorized so much I would not even need a program at times. Knowing the dogs - horse in a circuit is a huge advantage ! All have personalities!!!
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      • Louisvillekid1
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-17-07
        • 52143

        #4
        Hands down, plus you know how the track was favoring that day

        you know the tote board

        you know the connections tendencies

        and it’s still extremely difficult

        but man when you know the Caliber of competition by name

        it’s crucial for me
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        • Louisvillekid1
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-17-07
          • 52143

          #5
          It allows you to properly grade the race

          because there are countless races at these same levels

          this allows you to separate
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          • littlekona
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 11-19-15
            • 5242

            #6
            back in the day like 25 year ago No full card simulcast. you had to focus on the local tracks. I miss those days of Driving to Arlington park on Saturday for day card then driving to city for Sportsman Park or Maywood Harness for nite card...those where fun times
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            • harthebar
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-09-11
              • 15699

              #7
              Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
              This is hands down #1 for me

              it’s generated from following a specific meet

              Im not saying forget times , connections , %’s, or any of the other hundreds of factors that goes into my own handicapping

              but simply knowing the horses by name , when you look to the right of the running lines

              and what they did going forward

              is what I feel separates the above average / good handicapper , into the upper echelon

              I can’t tell you how many winners I get shipping from NY ( especially now) that I can simply recall the field

              your as good as your competition, sometimes 2.5 lengths could be 5-6

              I’m dabbling in gulfstream lately and doing well, Tampa also

              and yeah I like to drink and have fun when I’m at OTB, betting cross country

              nothing wrong with that small

              but to simply answer all questions

              pick one circuit , you will known how to counter punch the dead money

              have a plan going in

              don’t chase

              I’m well rounded

              but just like a NCAAF or ncaabb sport

              focus on a conference first

              best places i go to eat specialize in one thing

              Succeed @ that first

              then dabble

              Those result running lines , are crucial too me , and is my biggest edge
              Lk1. Do you ever get into watching replays. I know it's very time consuming.... it's hard to handle more then one track ..
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              • Louisvillekid1
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 10-17-07
                • 52143

                #8
                Honestly on the ny circuit ( Florida currently ) I watch all the races and make notes

                so I don’t really watch too many

                on big days at unfamiliar tracks such as hot springs lately

                I’ll find myself watching more

                also with horses shipping in to ny that I’m unfamiliar with, I will as well

                I think the biggest edge for me is sticking to one one circuit

                ROI goes up, you don’t start chasing other places

                have a plan each day and if it doesn’t work , then oh well

                my bankroll thanks me for that

                also I spend a lot of time , it’s difficult to follow many circuits

                -side note , I never liked poly track or California racing
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                • str
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-12-09
                  • 11563

                  #9
                  Great points Kid and Kona and Har.

                  There is no question in my mind that knowing every moving part of one circuit is a HUGE edge over the others participating within that pool.

                  It's not even close.
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                  • harthebar
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-09-11
                    • 15699

                    #10
                    I never liked Calif. Myself thought it was over rated . Your right. It's almost impossible to follow more then one track. With any success unless its recreational......if you write notes to the races . It's like watching replays . A year back I wrote tvg about there stable format. That they should have a area where you can leave notes or some kind of app for now I just use WORD ..
                    Remember it's not how much h you win .its how much you dont lose .. .
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                    • harthebar
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 12-09-11
                      • 15699

                      #11
                      Been watching a lot of the Hong Kong replays. It's only two nights it's very interesting .....
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                      • JBEX
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-02-12
                        • 23091

                        #12
                        I don't watch replays but agree it's probably the biggest edge you can have if you're willing to do the work..doing that along with a good set of past performances you've got a definite edge ..but the replays trump the pp's imo
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                        • JBEX
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-02-12
                          • 23091

                          #13
                          Originally posted by harthebar
                          Been watching a lot of the Hong Kong replays. It's only two nights it's very interesting .....
                          I think you're going to come up with some great horses to follow there hart..we've been discussing this lately
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                          • harthebar
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 12-09-11
                            • 15699

                            #14
                            Originally posted by JBEX
                            I think you're going to come up with some great horses to follow there hart..we've been discussing this lately
                            Think I already did. ...
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                            • harthebar
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-09-11
                              • 15699

                              #15
                              We shall see ....
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                              • Jowframs
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 08-10-09
                                • 5124

                                #16
                                Great stuff Kid,Thanx
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                                • harthebar
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-09-11
                                  • 15699

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                  This is hands down #1 for me

                                  it’s generated from following a specific meet

                                  Im not saying forget times , connections , %’s, or any of the other hundreds of factors that goes into my own handicapping

                                  but simply knowing the horses by name , when you look to the right of the running lines

                                  and what they did going forward

                                  is what I feel separates the above average / good handicapper , into the upper echelon

                                  I can’t tell you how many winners I get shipping from NY ( especially now) that I can simply recall the field

                                  your as good as your competition, sometimes 2.5 lengths could be 5-6

                                  I’m dabbling in gulfstream lately and doing well, Tampa also

                                  and yeah I like to drink and have fun when I’m at OTB, betting cross country

                                  nothing wrong with that small

                                  but to simply answer all questions

                                  pick one circuit , you will known how to counter punch the dead money

                                  have a plan going in

                                  don’t chase

                                  I’m well rounded

                                  but just like a NCAAF or ncaabb sport

                                  focus on a conference first

                                  best places i go to eat specialize in one thing

                                  Succeed @ that first

                                  then dabble

                                  Those result running lines , are crucial too me , and is my biggest edge
                                  Dont want to sound ignorant. Ha ha. But when you say look to the right. Your referring to the names of the horses. That particular horse ran against. . Odds
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                                  • Louisvillekid1
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 10-17-07
                                    • 52143

                                    #18
                                    Yeah im saying having a better understanding of the race the horses came out. Knowing what the other horses in previous race came back to perform
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                                    • harthebar
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 12-09-11
                                      • 15699

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                      Yeah im saying having a better understanding of the race the horses came out. Knowing what the other horses in previous race came back to perform
                                      Bingo. Ha ha. That's one biggest tools using that. Method. I just use it in replays. But as you said .you really need to know the horses. And the stay at one track or circuit. I really helps me the most in MSW Races at Belmont or the spa ..I call it "follow the leader"...I find it works the best when a heavy favorite wins the MSW... I reaLLY keep track of the rest of the field. If that Makes sense .....
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                                      • Louisvillekid1
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-17-07
                                        • 52143

                                        #20
                                        Drf Formulator trainer stats are great also
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