Never heard of Asian Handicapping, until I called the Book offering like -1/2, -1 +112 on tonight's game. I did read the wager type description as they suggested, but that didn't really clarify the pro and/or cons verse just using a normal ML, PL or just buying/selling a half goal. What's most confusing to me, is minus half a goal in playoff NHL is useless, as is impossible for game to end in a tie. Would appreciate any input on verse normal lines, what benefit is this Asian Handicapping thing is (if any).
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4seesSBR Wise Guy
- 12-29-17
- 567
#1Asian HandicappingTags: None -
hotcrossSBR Hall of Famer
- 08-04-17
- 7934
#2its called Asian "Handicap"
its a form of alternative spread
mostly used for Soccer, but also see it for Hockey, maybe other sports I don't follow
I don't know where to start. Recommend you do a basic search online for a description of it. I'm sure SBR has some posts in the Handicapper Think Tank section dealing with Asian Handicap odds - probably in relation to soccer.
Last time somebody brought up this topic in relation to hockey, he was mis-stating the situation, or either we didn't understand each other. So like I said, do some basic reading on the topic, then if you have specific questions, maybe I/someone can help.
The part you said a half goal in hockey is useless...well it depends on the context. Sometimes they are "regulation time only" odds. Or another way is let's say you're looking at a line that DOES include overtime. -1/2, -1 +112 means if you bet the favorite and they win by exactly 1 goal, you push the -1 portion, but you win the -1/2 portion. So half of your stake gets returned as the push, and half of your stake wins on the -1/2 goals line. Do you follow that? If your team wins by 2 or more goals, you win the entire stake at +112 odds.
You'll also see -1/4 goals lines. -1.25 goals. OK -1.25 goals means your bet is -1, -1.5 goals at the stated odds maybe +140 for example. So if the team wins by exactly 1 goal, you push half your stake at -1 goals, then you lose half your stake at -1.5 goals.
Why would someone bet this way? It opens up the opportunity to push half the stake.Comment -
4seesSBR Wise Guy
- 12-29-17
- 567
#3HOT: Thanks for the reply. I did read about the wager type as stated, so kind of understood how it works. Just couldn't figure out why I would use it, verse betting a normal line. Your last line did again clarify for me how it works, however, the why you choose to do this is still a mystery. Why open the opp for a push, verse just risking half in the first place on a normal line, if you don't want to assume all the risk that your 1 play doesn't win?
This was not a 3-way line that includes the draw/excludes OT. The -1/2 is identical to the Money Line, isn't it? So, if you're trying to win money on this game, why not just bet 1 line, and win or lose? I realize this Asian thing allows you to not just win or lose it all, but also enables having a draw, (on I guess half your risk amount), but to me you have now created 2 lines on the same game. Always easier to win 1 pick, than having to now win 2, isn't it? That's why I say a teezer virtually always is a sucker bet. Yea, you get extra points, however, whatever the points you still now have to win both picks to make the same money had you just had 1 pick that won. Book isn't stupid.Comment -
hotcrossSBR Hall of Famer
- 08-04-17
- 7934
#4The -1/2 is identical to the Money Line, isn't it?
>YES
So, if you're trying to win money on this game, why not just bet 1 line, and win or lose?
>AGREED
Also agree with your thinking on teasers, but some people do well with them...but still have to pick winners, either way right?
I'd rather SELL points for +plus odds on a bet, rather than BUY points and paying higher juice for what looks like a "sure bet"
That's off the topic. Neither of us are very familiar with Asian Handicaps, while some guys are. Just a guess, but maybe they are popular in Soccer because those are generally low scoring games, and 0-0 draws are somewhat common.
Back to the point, anyone using these lines to bet should make sure to be well-versed in the variations and if he sees "value" in the odds, then it stands to reason someone like that would use them.Comment
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