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  • mcduggly
    SBR MVP
    • 01-22-12
    • 2489

    #1
    Expected value question.
    I was reading a sports betting book that ran through the concept of expected value. Is finding a positive expected value even doable for a point spread game, assuming that the probability of either side winning is 50%? This concept confuses me.
  • FourLengthsClear
    SBR MVP
    • 12-29-10
    • 3808

    #2
    Originally posted by mcduggly
    I was reading a sports betting book that ran through the concept of expected value. Is finding a positive expected value even doable for a point spread game, assuming that the probability of either side winning is 50%? This concept confuses me.
    That assumption is false and it is this that makes is possible to find +EV.

    Sports games and markets are not coin flips. Generally speaking, it is very difficult to beat closing lines and you have a much better chance of finding value in early lines/odds.
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    • john230
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 07-24-11
      • 721

      #3
      Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
      That assumption is false and it is this that makes is possible to find +EV.

      Sports games and markets are not coin flips. Generally speaking, it is very difficult to beat closing lines and you have a much better chance of finding value in early lines/odds.

      That's why it's good to have a shop that posts early lines. You have more control that way.
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      • mcduggly
        SBR MVP
        • 01-22-12
        • 2489

        #4
        Thank you guys. So then how do I find positive expected value for the point spread games?
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        • FourLengthsClear
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          • 12-29-10
          • 3808

          #5
          Originally posted by mcduggly
          Thank you guys. So then how do I find positive expected value for the point spread games?
          It isn't easy. Some reading on the concepts/methods used might be a good starting point.

          "Sharp Sports Betting" - Stanford Wong; and
          "Conquering Risk" - Elihu D. Feustel
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          • mcduggly
            SBR MVP
            • 01-22-12
            • 2489

            #6
            Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
            It isn't easy. Some reading on the concepts/methods used might be a good starting point.

            "Sharp Sports Betting" - Stanford Wong; and
            "Conquering Risk" - Elihu D. Feustel
            I've actually read that book not too long ago, and that is where this question derives from. I have read it over and it doesn't make sense to me if you don't know the winning/losing percentage of either team.
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            • FourLengthsClear
              SBR MVP
              • 12-29-10
              • 3808

              #7
              Originally posted by mcduggly
              I've actually read that book not too long ago, and that is where this question derives from. I have read it over and it doesn't make sense to me if you don't know the winning/losing percentage of either team.
              Try "Conquering Risk" too as well as "Mathletics".

              Both books have quite a lot which I don't agree with but will give you an idea of how to begin to apply statistical data to derive your own percentages.
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              • mcduggly
                SBR MVP
                • 01-22-12
                • 2489

                #8
                Originally posted by FourLengthsClear

                Try "Conquering Risk" too as well as "Mathletics".

                Both books have quite a lot which I don't agree with but will give you an idea of how to begin to apply statistical data to derive your own percentages.
                Alright, thank you very much for the help!
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