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  • BettingWizard
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-28-09
    • 6522

    #1
    Bet Runline on Road Favs, ML on Road Dogs?
    There's a common perception, in some circles, that it is better value to take a Runline -1.5 on a road team, because 80% of the time, the road team wins by 2+, if they do end up winning.


    However, I think this is only smart to do with the Favorites. 2 Reasons why.


    1. The favorite is more likely to be a part of the group that wins 80% of the time. I would bet that if you take dogs out of the equation, it is probably 85%, or slightly more.

    2. Example: A team is -130 on the ML, but +120 on the RL. They lose outright. You lose 100 instead of 130. This helps offset the times they do only win by 1 run.



    Why I think it is smarter to bet the Dog ML instead of the Alternate Runline.

    1. Like I said before, A dog team is more likely to be a part of the 20% of games that the road team wins by one. They are just less likely to blow out a team compared to the favorites.

    2. You are already getting Plus Money, so why get greedy? Example: +130 ML vs +180 ALT -1.5.

    In this example, a one run win is a negative $230 swing for a $100 bettor

    ML bettors +130

    ALT line bettor -100


    Any arguments?
  • rfr3sh
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-07-09
    • 10229

    #2
    80% of the time they win by 2+ eh
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    • kingchunny
      SBR High Roller
      • 04-22-11
      • 201

      #3
      Originally posted by rfr3sh
      80% of the time they win by 2+ eh
      My sentiments exactly
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      • Insoluble
        SBR Hustler
        • 05-29-10
        • 71

        #4
        Where are you getting 80% from? The books have done better math than you're giving them credit for.
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        • BettingWizard
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 11-28-09
          • 6522

          #5
          well according to this it is 77.4% total and and practically no difference between the % rate of dog and favs winning by one run, on the road.

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          • Inspirited
            SBR MVP
            • 06-26-10
            • 1788

            #6
            on RL
            HD - 1.9% ROI
            HF - 1.2% ROI
            AD -3.0% ROI
            AF -3.2% ROI

            on ML
            HD +1.9% ROI
            HF -2.0% ROI
            AD -2.4% ROI
            AF -5.0% ROI

            HD on ML
            HF on RL
            AD on ML
            AF on RL

            overall

            F on RL
            D on ML
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            • trevlyn1983
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 05-25-09
              • 940

              #7
              I ahve for this season a Road Favorite wins by 2+ 13.25% of the time .
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              • LegitBet
                Restricted User
                • 05-25-10
                • 538

                #8
                Originally posted by trevlyn1983
                I ahve for this season a Road Favorite wins by 2+ 13.25% of the time .
                The OPs distinction Is an important one. That IF the road fav wins, it's likely to be by 2 or more.
                Thoughts?
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                • trevlyn1983
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 05-25-09
                  • 940

                  #9
                  My Bad .. I have if the away team wins and is the favorite, they cover the 1.5 , 83% of the time this year .
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                  • immy5150
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 04-28-11
                    • 198

                    #10
                    bookies know this, no secret, so they do adjust accordingly when they feel the need and it is called for...just sayin
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                    • bztips
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 06-03-10
                      • 283

                      #11
                      Regardless of whether it's 80% or 85% or something else, OP's entire argument is bogus because it's not based on EV, (ie, his method doesn't even consider what the specific line is). Frankly, it's a "system" that doesn't belong in the Tank.
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                      • wtt0315
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-18-07
                        • 8037

                        #12
                        you lose a half inning in some of the cases taking run line on home team if they are up by 1 at middle of ninth
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                        • ZetaPsi808
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 09-18-08
                          • 12119

                          #13
                          OP, i agree here pal
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                          • Salmon Steak
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-05-10
                            • 2110

                            #14
                            If you are a real wizard just use magic to win the games.
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                            • Philphan
                              Restricted User
                              • 08-19-10
                              • 260

                              #15
                              Where are you getting this 80% number from?
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                              • BettingWizard
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 11-28-09
                                • 6522

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Philphan
                                Where are you getting this 80% number from?
                                It's actually 77.4%
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                                • thefonzo
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 03-10-10
                                  • 671

                                  #17
                                  I'm an idiot, so let me try to get this straight. If a road team is favored and wins, they cover the -1.5 line three-fourths of the time?

                                  So being an idiot, I'm going to go ahead and bet the road fave on the -1.5 and the dog on the money line. My guess is I'll win, hypothetically, $5 three times, and then lose $16 once, so it's not profitable.
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                                  • trevlyn1983
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 05-25-09
                                    • 940

                                    #18
                                    Of all the games this year i only have the away favorite winning only 16.37% of the time .. not counting today .
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                                    • goblue12
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-08-09
                                      • 1316

                                      #19
                                      No "Systems" in the Think Tank please

                                      Originally posted by Justin7
                                      A system is any type of betting that doesn't care what the spread or money line is. If you follow this, you will lose. Please don't clutter up the Think Tank with losing systems.
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