Official Scalping and Middling Thread

[blix177]

Matchbook SMU -128 Pinny College +131

[Fishhead]

Matchbook SMU -128 Pinny College +131

Matchbook is just the nuts............

Had a 27 cent scalp yesterday on the Blue Jackets hockey game thanks to the good folks at MB.


Matchbook is simply one of the greatest resources any sportsbettor can have............


Congrats on your scalp, however small...................but don't ever underestimate the power of grinding.

Keep up the good work,
FH

[Dunder]

Is there a way to do it so the sports books don't know what you're doing?
Could you bet at a casino and an online sportsbook to hide your strategy?

No, not really. There are 10-12 websites that flag up arb opportunities when they arise. As such when executing an arbitrage you are generally going to be part of a brief flood of money.

It does not take long for the books to catch on to this.

Bear in mind that of the two side of an arb, normally only one will be +EV. As such, even though you still have the issue of being limited, you get far more bang for the buck when identifying which one and playing only that side.

[Johnny 55]

Of these 10-12 websites, how many even help Americans, probably zero, since we cant get into the Euro and Aussie books. Identifying the plus EV side can also be done on a lesser scale in an arb in order to decrease volatility. I think most people have trouble with the concepts of utililty and what might be a tremendous bet for someone with a huge bankroll is a horrible bet for someone with a lesser bankroll and poor money management skills, kind of like the sports betting version of the rich getting richer. I would love to see SBR increase the amount of books they offer in SBR Lines and I understand the sponsors that pay get offered in the lines. If I were a sportsbook I would get on SBR Lines, I know I would never post up with someone who was not on SBR Lines.

Also, MintyBetMachine, the arb you posted earlier on the Chargers-Titans is one that would lose you money when you factor in Matchbook's commission structure.

[mintybetmachine]

Also, MintyBetMachine, the arb you posted earlier on the Chargers-Titans is one that would lose you money when you factor in Matchbook's commission structure.

"Chargers +3 -103 @ MB vs Titans +105 @ Jazz Sports or Loose Lines"

Pay $103 at MB + 1% of lesser amount ($100) = $104 to win $100 vs.
Pay $100 to win $105.

[mintybetmachine]

Celtics +5 -110 @ 5dimes vs Magic -2 -110 @ Greek, Bet-phoenix, Pinny

EDIT: Magic seems like a great bet as it seems people are forgetting that Pierce is out to go along with Daniels and Davis and KG is hurt.

[Johnny 55]

Oh Minty- You are a man among boys.

No book has the Magic at -2, you are using outdated info, it is 5, 5.5 everywhere.

As for your scalp scenario,

Bet #1: $100 to win $105 at Loose Lines

In order to scalp, run it through Arb calculator for Matchbook at -103

Bet #2 should be $104.01 to win $100.98

1 % of $100.98 is rounded up $1.01

The arb you put forth is worth $.99 and the commission at Matchbook is $1.01, so this is a minus arb, you will lose 2 cents if you place these two bets.

[mintybetmachine]

Oh Minty- You are a man among boys.

No book has the Magic at -2, you are using outdated info, it is 5, 5.5 everywhere.

As for your scalp scenario,

Bet #1: $100 to win $105 at Loose Lines

In order to scalp, run it through Arb calculator for Matchbook at -103

Bet #2 should be $104.01 to win $100.98

1 % of $100.98 is rounded up $1.01

The arb you put forth is worth $.99 and the commission at Matchbook is $1.01, so this is a minus arb, you will lose 2 cents if you place these two bets.

So you do this:

Pay $103 at MB + 1% of lesser amount ($100) = $104 to win $100 vs.
Pay $100 to win $105.

Win or push, sounds good to me.

[swisher33]

Take Chargers +150 ml now and wait for the Tennessee line to drop.

The line has moved. How much value do I get by hitting Tennessee at at -141 moneyline or -3 +107

[Fishhead]

Going to pick up quite a bit tonight scalping this SMU game.........

Been manuvering all day at Matchbook........been very fun.

I enjoy the crap out of this stuff.

[IrishTim]

Fishhead, been doing some of the same stuff at MB. You must be the bastard eating up all the funds just before I can get my bet in. Why does the liquidity suck so much on the live betting? After key points in the game such as the first TD and failed 4th point conversion, I see offers for like $29. What good does that do anyone? Then the best is how it drops to $26. Did you someone really just bet Nevada ML for $3?

[Fishhead]

Fishhead, been doing some of the same stuff at MB. You must be the bastard eating up all the funds just before I can get my bet in. Why does the liquidity suck so much on the live betting? After key points in the game such as the first TD and failed 4th point conversion, I see offers for like $29. What good does that do anyone? Then the best is how it drops to $26. Did you someone really just bet Nevada ML for $3?

I for the most part do not partake in LIVE wagering that much, only to to look for absurd numbers.......it's to risky with Matchbook because the screen can freeze up.

I focus on games 24+ hours in advance and attack weak numbers.

[hhsilver]

So you do this:

Pay $103 at MB + 1% of lesser amount ($100) = $104 to win $100 vs.
Pay $100 to win $105.

Win or push, sounds good to me.

you are wrong here --- if you accept at -103 at MB, with the 1% it becomes risk 104 to win 99. ( you pay $1 comm, win or lose)

[BubbleBobble]

Had a 27 cent scalp yesterday on the Blue Jackets hockey game thanks to the good folks at MB.

That's why you made the thread in the hockey forum i guess, you ****ing scammer.

[mintybetmachine]

you are wrong here --- if you accept at -103 at MB, with the 1% it becomes risk 104 to win 99. ( you pay $1 comm, win or lose)

Oh, thanks for explaining. I don't have an MB account yet but now I won't lose money in a few days when I finally do!

[Johnny 55]

I explained it you long ago my little friend. Dont bet Minty, just trust me, you will lose, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but you will get busted.

[mintybetmachine]

I explained it you long ago my little friend. Dont bet Minty, just trust me, you will lose, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but you will get busted.

What are you talking about? If don't have anything meaningful to say leave this thread.

[swisher33]

I took Charger +150 ml earlier this week.

I could take Tennessee -3 +114 or Tennessee -140. Which one has the better value

[mintybetmachine]

Ten ML def, -3 is a terrible option, 3 is a key number in NFL, one mistake when scalping can set you back weeks. Stick to the plan, money management and sticking to the plan are the most important things in this business. I have seen people go on hot streaks of around 45-5 and be down money.

[swisher33]

Ten ML def, -3 is a terrible option, 3 is a key number in NFL, one mistake when scalping can set you back weeks. Stick to the plan, money management and sticking to the plan are the most important things in this business. I have seen people go on hot streaks of around 45-5 and be down money.

Is there a betting tool or calculator that shows the advantage/disadvantage of taking 2 sides?

[mintybetmachine]

http://www.sbrforum.com/Betting+Tools/Half+Point+Calculator.aspx

[Johnny 55]

I explained it you in post 42. Minty, I am only trying to help you. No information you will ever receive on this forum is more valuable than my last post encouraging you to stop betting, you will save yourself a lot of money in the future.

[BigdaddyQH]

USC -6.5 at BetUS and others. Boston College +7.5 at Bodog. A 7 middle for anyone who wants to take it.

[durito]

USC -6.5 at BetUS and others. Boston College +7.5 at Bodog. A 7 middle for anyone who wants to take it.

no one posting in here is on the retard lineset at bodog still

[mintybetmachine]

USC -6.5 at BetUS and others. Boston College +7.5 at Bodog. A 7 middle for anyone who wants to take it.

You need both lines to be -110 or better, otherwise odds are against you since the push prob of 7 is 5%

[Fishhead]

I prefer to scalp the BC game personally.......not only this provide a better source of steady income, most times it is actually a better value.

Will be sitting in a very nice position on the BC game by the time the game kicks off.

Again, a highly funded($20,000+) Matchbook account is highly recommended.

Matchbook has many clients that leave up stale lines..........not that hard to capitalize.

[hhsilver]

Fishhead, a few weeks ago you alluded to big news coming at MB on the 15th. Did I miss something? anything more about that?

Thanks for your scalping advice , etc. Some clues as to how to decide which way lines might move is always appreciated - not necessarily for a specific game, but general things that might help.

Give a man a scalp and you get him a small profit, teach him how to anticipate them and he becomes...well, Fishhead.

[durito]

I prefer to scalp the BC game personally.......not only this provide a better source of steady income, most times it is actually a better value.

Care to demonstrate how?

[blix177]

Any value to middle this? Over 201 on Memphis -104, Under -201.5 +100

[durito]

no.

[Thremp]

no.

Rollover, or betpoints type promos. GOGOGOGOGOOGOGOGOGO.

[Brp27345]

Cal Riverside (-103) Matchbook
Long Beach State (+109) Pinnacle
If anyone was wondering I think this is a perfect example of wat all of u are talking about... Game tips at 10

[IrishTim]

Anyone make decent money scalping the live betting on Matchbook? Or not enough liquidity?

[DOMINATER]

guys is this when you get aline which is lets say 8 then another guy has it at 5 and one half you bet 550 to win 500 on both teams if the number is in the middle you hit both sides at the worst you lose 50 dollars? I DID THAT FOR A WHOLE SEASON NEVER WON AND GOT ONE BOOK REALLY PISSED BECAUSE HE WAS ALWAYS LOSING. sorry for the caps.

[Johnny 55]

You clearly did not dominate the classroom.