Why is house edge smaller on big favs lines?

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  • noober
    SBR MVP
    • 10-23-09
    • 2012

    #1
    Why is house edge smaller on big favs lines?
    I noticed that the bookmaker's edge is much smaller when there is a big favourite involved.
    For example, when the odds are 1.001 for the fav and 63 for the dog the edge is 1.49%. On the other hand, if you have odds of 1.96 and 1.96 (which to me seems much more fair) the edge is 2.04%.

    Is there any explanation for that or am I confused? Thank you.
  • noober
    SBR MVP
    • 10-23-09
    • 2012

    #2
    Anyone? That queston has been bothering me for a while.
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    • BigdaddyQH
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-13-09
      • 19530

      #3
      I think your question needs clarification. Where did you come up with those numbers? What do they represent? I am having problems determining what you want answered.
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      • noober
        SBR MVP
        • 10-23-09
        • 2012

        #4
        If you have odds of 1.85 and 1.85 the overround (house edge) will be 1/1.85 + 1/1.85 = 8.1%. But as the spread between the favourite's line and the dog's line increase the overround will decrease as well. For odds of 1.1 and 7 the overround is 1/1.1+1/7 = 5.2%. For odds of 1.001 and 100 you have overround of only 0.89%. This makes me wonder if you are better off betting on lines with big spread.
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        • noober
          SBR MVP
          • 10-23-09
          • 2012

          #5
          In this thread Ganchrow defines theoretical hold to be the expected value of the line offered by the bookmaker.

          Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.


          So for the odds I mentioned, the theoretical hold will be:
          For 1.85 and 1.85: 7.5%
          For 1.1 and 7: 4.9%
          For 1.001 and 100: .88%

          Similarly, the theoretical hold decreases as the spread of the line increases and I have no explanation why that happens. Hopefully my question is clear now.
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          • Hybris
            SBR MVP
            • 07-22-09
            • 1023

            #6
            Nvm didnt understand your question. Someone smarter then me will have a better answer..
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            • RickySteve
              Restricted User
              • 01-31-06
              • 3415

              #7
              Unsophisticated bettors are generally put off by seemingly large absolute differences between back and lay prices. The bookmaker must balance this perception with maintaining her hold. A surprising number of bookmakers probably fail to completely grasp the concept of theoretical hold themselves.
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              • david.lee264
                SBR Rookie
                • 12-11-09
                • 3

                #8
                Because its better being small in this reason. So they are made smaller.
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                • noober
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-23-09
                  • 2012

                  #9
                  So do you think a bettor is better off developing strategies for bets with large absolute differences between back and lay prices? In this case, the expected value is approximately -1% compared to approximately -5% when the lay and back odds are very close. It seems easier to beat 1% than 5% but I haven't noticed a tendency of pro bettors focusing on bets with large absolute differences between back and lay prices.
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