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    statdude
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    Math Guys? Multi-Bet Moneyline Calculation

    Hey all,
    not sure if there is a term for it. I'm trying to calculate how to split a single outcome into mutiple moneylines.

    Say a single outcome has multiple possible variations, each with a moneyline, say:

    A: +250
    B: +650
    C: +1500

    What would be the way to calculate what to bet for each outcome to create a single moneyline?

    So, if you won any of the three outcomes, you'd "win" an equal amount?

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    So you want the amount to bet on each to hit have the same output:

    1$ on 1500, 2.30 on 650 and 6 on 250.

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    Thanks Water,
    The problem here is the cost of the other bets you lost, makes your "net" winnings unequal... wit those staking numbers, you'd win $15 for each outcome. However, if A happend, you'd have to pay 3.3, but be 7 to pay for A and C, and C would be 8.3 to pay for A & B.

    Event ML Bet Win? Minus Net
    A 250 6 15 3.307 11.7
    B 650 2.307 15 7 8.0
    C 1500 1 15 8.307 6.7

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    It is somewhere around 7.51,3.51 and 1.645 off half a cent
    Last edited by Waterstpub87; 02-08-13 at 04:31 PM.

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    The hard way is to solve a system of three linear equations in three unknowns (the stakes for each bet), with the desired winnings and the odds as given. The easy way is to use a website like http://arbcruncher.com or write up a formula in excel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterstpub87 View Post
    So you want the amount to bet on each to hit have the same output:

    1$ on 1500, 2.30 on 650 and 6 on 250.
    This is the best way to do it IMO; compare the sum of your bets with the known output to determine whether an arbitrage exists.

    As VLR mentioned, you can set up 3 linear equations and solve for the allocations, but I prefer waterstpub's simpler, slightly more intuitive approach (I used to do it the hard way as well).

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    I think you are speaking about Dutching.

    if so, here's a tool to work it out for you: http://www.oddschecker.com/betting-t...alculator.html

    You can get +109 overall dutching the 3 prices you quoted.
    Last edited by Optional; 02-21-13 at 06:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by statdude View Post
    Hey all,
    not sure if there is a term for it. I'm trying to calculate how to split a single outcome into mutiple moneylines.

    Say a single outcome has multiple possible variations, each with a moneyline, say:

    A: +250
    B: +650
    C: +1500

    What would be the way to calculate what to bet for each outcome to create a single moneyline?

    So, if you won any of the three outcomes, you'd "win" an equal amount?
    Assuming you were to bet k units on outcome A, you'd need to bet k × dA/dB units on outcome B, where dX represents the decimal odds on outcome X.

    So in the example above, given a 1-unit wager on outcome A, you'd wager 3.5/7.5 units on outcome B and 3.5/16 units on outcome C, reflecting net decimal odds of (3.5*7.5*16)/(3.5*7.5+3.5*16+7.5*16) ≈ 2.077 (~ +107.7 US).

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    Oh my god he's still here

    Edit: BTW, what do you think of Conquering Risk? MDC didn't seem to think much of it, but what about you?

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