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  • tbiala
    SBR Rookie
    • 05-06-09
    • 14

    #1
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    ok im sure this is on here somewhere4 but i figured would be easier to just repost.

    i am quoting this from another post



    Originally Posted by LT Profits
    Brady,

    I am afraid it is not that simple. Using an average midpoint ONLY works for Pick'ems (-104/+104, -105/+105, -110/+110).

    In this particluar case, the No Vig Price is calclated as follows:

    Cubs implied -148 = 59.68% (148/248)
    Marlins implied +128 = 43.86% (100/228)

    So:

    59.68/(59.68+43.86) = 57.6%
    43.86/(59.68+43.86) = 42.4%

    No Vig Line = 57.6/42.4 = +/-136.1

    (How was that Ganch? )






    how do you figure this out????? is there a formula for excel that will do it no matter what the juice is?? where does the 59.68% come from and where does the 42.4% come from. how do you calculate this???
    Last edited by SBRAdmin3; 07-26-14, 11:28 AM.
  • LT Profits
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-27-06
    • 90963

    #2
    Originally posted by tbiala
    where does the 59.68% come from and where does the 42.4% come from. how do you calculate this???[/I]
    Actually, the conversion is given in my post.

    A -148 favorite should win 148 out of 248 times, so 148/248 = 59.68%
    A +128 dog should win 100 out of 228 times, so 100/228 = 43.86%

    As for doing it in Excel, it is very simple for a head-to-head match with only two options (i.e., no Draw option).

    Lets use cells A1 through C2. Column A will will be our two inputs in fractonal form, with the favorite in A1 and the dog in A2. More on that in a second.

    Columns B and C will be constant. Column B will calculate the no-vig expected win rate and Column C will convert that rate into a line. The results in C1 and C2 should be reciprocals of each other and is the no-vig line.


    So if we always put the fave in A1 and the dog in A2, enter the following in Column B:

    In B1, put =A1/(A1+A2)
    in B2, put =A2/(A1+A2)

    And in Column C, enter the following:

    In C1, put -B1/(1-B1)
    In C2, put =(1-B2)/B2


    So for a real example, let's say a game is -125/+105

    You would put 125/225 in A1 and 100/205 in A2. If you entered the formulas in B and C right, you should get no-vig line of +/-113.9
    Last edited by LT Profits; 05-14-09, 07:32 AM.
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    • Ganchrow
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-28-05
      • 5011

      #3
      Or you could just download my simple, easy-to-use, nearly all inclusive
      The US2PROB() function calculates implied probability from US odds. So -=US2PROB(-148) yields 59.68%, while =US2PROB(+128) yields 43.86%,
      Cell A1: -148
      Cell A2: +128

      To determine the unbiased no-vig market line, use the =US2FAIR() array function. =US2FAIR(A1:A2) yields a fair value on the fave of -136.065.
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      • tbiala
        SBR Rookie
        • 05-06-09
        • 14

        #4
        L t profits thanks!!
        Ganchrow, I figured ur formulas had a way to calculate but I still don't know how to use most of em. I'm workin on it tho. Thanlks guys
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        • tbiala
          SBR Rookie
          • 05-06-09
          • 14

          #5
          Another question,

          How would u do this for pointspread lines?
          Ie:

          Team a: -3 -110
          Team b +3 -110

          How do u figure this, n how do u know what's better -3 -110 or -3.5 100 or -2.5 -118 and so on...

          Thanks
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          • byronbb
            SBR MVP
            • 11-13-08
            • 3067

            #6
            Originally posted by tbiala
            Another question,

            How would u do this for pointspread lines?
            Ie:

            Team a: -3 -110
            Team b +3 -110

            How do u figure this, n how do u know what's better -3 -110 or -3.5 100 or -2.5 -118 and so on...

            Thanks
            Link Not Working - Removed-)
            Last edited by SBRAdmin3; 06-11-14, 02:21 PM.
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