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  • _Stat_
    SBR Rookie
    • 11-26-08
    • 43

    #1
    Better Teaser?
    3 Team +180.5
    Team X +8.5
    Team Y +8.5
    Team z +8.5

    VS.

    3 Team +180
    Team X +9

    Team Y +8.5
    Team Z +8.5

    Better to get a 1/2 point on 1 leg of 3 teamer at non 3/7 numbers. Or get a half cent on the whole teaser?
  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #2
    Originally posted by _Stat_
    3 Team +180.5
    Team X +8.5
    Team Y +8.5
    Team z +8.5

    VS.

    3 Team +180
    Team X +9

    Team Y +8.5
    Team Z +8.5

    Better to get a 1/2 point on 1 leg of 3 teamer at non 3/7 numbers. Or get a half cent on the whole teaser?
    I'll assume this is in NFL. How often does the "9" push in NFL? Also, what does your teaser reduce to if you go 2-0-1? +100 or -110? What is your assumed win rate teasing a dog from +2.5 to +8.5?

    Once you answer these 3 questions, you can evaluate the EV for each wager. I suspect you're better off taking +9, instead of +8.5... But don't listen to me, do the math!
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    • Ganchrow
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-28-05
      • 5011

      #3
      Let p = win probability at +8.5
      Let q = push probability on +9

      Assuming a 2-0-1 reduced to -110 and that the +280.5 bet were breakeven, for the +280.5 to be the superior bet EV-wise, the following inequality would need to be satisfied:
      p3*3.8 + p2*q*21/11 - 1 ≥ p3*3.805-1
      q*21/11 ≥ 0.005*11/21
      q ≥ p * 11/4200

      In general, assuming a 2-0-1 reduced to decimal odds of d and that the +280.5 bet were breakeven, for the +280.5 to be the better bet EV-wise, the following inequality would need to be satisfied:
      p3*3.8 + p2*q*d - 1 ≤ p3*3.805-1
      q ≥ p/(200*d)

      So assuming the +280.5 bet to be breakeven (p ≈ 64.05%):
      • If pushes on the +280 reduced to -110, the push probability on the 9 would need to be at least 64.05%*11/4200 ≈ ~0.168% for the +280.5 to be the superior bet.
      • If pushes on the +280 reduced to +100, the push probability on the 9 would need to be at least 64.05%/(200*2) ≈ ~0.160% for the +280.5 to be the superior bet.
      • If pushes on the +280 marked the entire teaser a push, the push probability on the 9 would need to be at least 64.05%/(200*1)≈ ~0.320% for the +280.5 to be the superior bet.
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      • Ganchrow
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-28-05
        • 5011

        #4
        So given that since the mid-80s, NFL games with spreads of between 1 and 3½ have finished with a fave MOV of exactly 9 with frequency of about 1.576% (σ≈0.257%), you'd probably want to take the +280 and the extra half-point.

        I'll add however, that that the more +EV you estimated the +280.5 to be, the greater the risk-neutral hurdle rate for the push prob on the 9.
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        • _Stat_
          SBR Rookie
          • 11-26-08
          • 43

          #5
          thanks alot.

          Ill work on understanding that math.
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