Math Guys? Multi-Bet Moneyline Calculation

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  • statdude
    SBR High Roller
    • 09-11-12
    • 117

    #1
    Math Guys? Multi-Bet Moneyline Calculation
    Hey all,
    not sure if there is a term for it. I'm trying to calculate how to split a single outcome into mutiple moneylines.

    Say a single outcome has multiple possible variations, each with a moneyline, say:

    A: +250
    B: +650
    C: +1500

    What would be the way to calculate what to bet for each outcome to create a single moneyline?

    So, if you won any of the three outcomes, you'd "win" an equal amount?
  • Waterstpub87
    SBR MVP
    • 09-09-09
    • 4102

    #2
    So you want the amount to bet on each to hit have the same output:

    1$ on 1500, 2.30 on 650 and 6 on 250.
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    • statdude
      SBR High Roller
      • 09-11-12
      • 117

      #3
      Thanks Water,
      The problem here is the cost of the other bets you lost, makes your "net" winnings unequal... wit those staking numbers, you'd win $15 for each outcome. However, if A happend, you'd have to pay 3.3, but be 7 to pay for A and C, and C would be 8.3 to pay for A & B.

      Event ML Bet Win? Minus Net
      A 250 6 15 3.307 11.7
      B 650 2.307 15 7 8.0
      C 1500 1 15 8.307 6.7
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      • Waterstpub87
        SBR MVP
        • 09-09-09
        • 4102

        #4
        It is somewhere around 7.51,3.51 and 1.645 off half a cent
        Last edited by Waterstpub87; 02-08-13, 05:31 PM.
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        • VLR100
          SBR High Roller
          • 01-10-10
          • 217

          #5
          The hard way is to solve a system of three linear equations in three unknowns (the stakes for each bet), with the desired winnings and the odds as given. The easy way is to use a website like http://arbcruncher.com or write up a formula in excel.
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          • Blax0r
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 10-13-10
            • 688

            #6
            Originally posted by Waterstpub87
            So you want the amount to bet on each to hit have the same output:

            1$ on 1500, 2.30 on 650 and 6 on 250.
            This is the best way to do it IMO; compare the sum of your bets with the known output to determine whether an arbitrage exists.

            As VLR mentioned, you can set up 3 linear equations and solve for the allocations, but I prefer waterstpub's simpler, slightly more intuitive approach (I used to do it the hard way as well).
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            • Optional
              Administrator
              • 06-10-10
              • 60714

              #7
              I think you are speaking about Dutching.

              if so, here's a tool to work it out for you: http://www.oddschecker.com/betting-t...alculator.html

              You can get +109 overall dutching the 3 prices you quoted.
              Last edited by Optional; 02-21-13, 07:33 AM.
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              • Ganchrow
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 08-28-05
                • 5011

                #8
                Originally posted by statdude
                Hey all,
                not sure if there is a term for it. I'm trying to calculate how to split a single outcome into mutiple moneylines.

                Say a single outcome has multiple possible variations, each with a moneyline, say:

                A: +250
                B: +650
                C: +1500

                What would be the way to calculate what to bet for each outcome to create a single moneyline?

                So, if you won any of the three outcomes, you'd "win" an equal amount?
                Assuming you were to bet k units on outcome A, you'd need to bet k × dA/dB units on outcome B, where dX represents the decimal odds on outcome X.

                So in the example above, given a 1-unit wager on outcome A, you'd wager 3.5/7.5 units on outcome B and 3.5/16 units on outcome C, reflecting net decimal odds of (3.5*7.5*16)/(3.5*7.5+3.5*16+7.5*16) ≈ 2.077 (~ +107.7 US).
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                • Carl-Haakon
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 02-08-13
                  • 35

                  #9
                  Oh my god he's still here

                  Edit: BTW, what do you think of Conquering Risk? MDC didn't seem to think much of it, but what about you?
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