Saints Change Kickers

[LT Profits]

Cut: Garrett Hartley
Signed: Shayne Graham

This obviously has a big Fantasy impact with many leagues having their Super Bowls this week (including the 2 SBR Leagues) and the kicker of a potent offense like New Orleans has slightly more value than other kickers.

But even for us bettors, the Saints are three-point underdogs at Carolina and it is good to know that New Orleans may now have a more reliable kicker in the event of a close game late, which is probably why they timed this move before this huge game.

[Easy-Rider 66]

Changing kickers is not going to do much for NO. Look for Car to take them down on Sunday in their House.

[LT Profits]

It doesn't matter if Carolina wins comfortably. But it could certainly matter if it is a tight game late.

[pavyracer]

It will be a tight game, hence the line is at -3.

[pavyracer]

Never understood this move. QB sucks balls the last game, receivers can't catch anything, RB's can't run the ball, defense can't stop anyone. Hey..lets fire the kicker. That will fix everything!

[iWin]

Never understood this move. QB sucks balls the last game, receivers can't catch anything, RB's can't run the ball, defense can't stop anyone. Hey..lets fire the kicker. That will fix everything!

What you talking about? Hartley got two chip shot field goals blocked. If hr made those saints woulda had a better chance at the game

[Footballtime]

Had Hartley as a backup, unfortunately Calvin ****** me Monday night with the drops..........Lost my 500 buyin league this past week, 117.92 to 117.84, each catch is worth a point............ Last 2 days have been tough..........

[Chi_archie]

Never understood this move. QB sucks balls the last game, receivers can't catch anything, RB's can't run the ball, defense can't stop anyone. Hey..lets fire the kicker. That will fix everything!

it has nothing to do with anyone else.

it is pretty easy to evaluate the Kicker's performance and it has been sub par

that is all there is to it

[thebestthereis]

This is the same as me eating a chicken salad sandwich today, means the same. It was delicious actually, but I know nobody cares.

[Chi_archie]

saints are also going to start rookie LT Terron Armstead

what is interesting to me is this guy's physical freakiness. He ran a 4.71 40.

you know who else ran a 4.71 40 at the combine???? Jerry Rice

The Saints drafted Armstead in the third round out of Arkansas-Pine Bluff after he dazzled in pre-draft workouts and all-star games. The 6-foot-5, 304-pounder ran the fastest 40-yard dash time by an offensive lineman in the history of the NFL scouting combine (4.71 seconds). He also recorded the highest vertical leap of any offensive lineman this year (34.5 inches).

[Dr. Gambler]

Interesting stuff Chi

[d2bets]

Never understood this move. QB sucks balls the last game, receivers can't catch anything, RB's can't run the ball, defense can't stop anyone. Hey..lets fire the kicker. That will fix everything!

Did they claim it would fix everything? If they can sign a kicker who can do a better job then you do it. That's preety much all there us to it.

[Chi_archie]

and to be clear this Armstrong kid has not seen ONE SNAP on the o-line all year...

and he will be starting on the road, protecting Brees's blind side

seems a bit crazy

[pavyracer]

What you talking about? Hartley got two chip shot field goals blocked. If hr made those saints woulda had a better chance at the game

I didn't know that kickers are supposed to block now. Wow someone blocked a FG!

[Chi_archie]

Percentage Of Field Goals Made Leaders - Qualified

			FIELD GOALS									EXTRA POINTS
RK	PLAYER	TEAM	FGM	FGA	PCT	LNG	1-19	20-29	30-39	40-49	50+	XPM	XPA	PCT
1	Nick Folk, PK	NYJ	30	31	96.8	54	0-0	6-6	9-9	12-13	3-3	22	22	100.0
	Steven Hauschka, PK	SEA	30	31	96.8	53	0-0	8-8	8-8	11-12	3-3	40	40	100.0
3	Matt Prater, PK	DEN	20	21	95.2	64	2-2	3-3	3-3	7-7	5-6	67	67	100.0
4	Justin Tucker, PK	BAL	35	37	94.6	61	0-0	9-9	10-10	10-11	6-7	25	25	100.0
5	Shaun Suisham, PK	PIT	27	29	93.1	48	0-0	9-9	10-12	8-8	0-0	32	32	100.0
6	Dan Bailey, PK	DAL	24	26	92.3	53	2-2	1-1	7-8	8-8	6-7	43	43	100.0
7	Greg Zuerlein, PK	STL	22	24	91.7	48	0-0	6-6	9-9	7-8	0-1	32	32	100.0
8	Stephen Gostkowski, PK	NE	32	35	91.4	54	1-1	7-7	11-11	8-10	5-6	37	37	100.0
9	Josh Scobee, PK	JAX	21	23	91.3	55	0-0	3-3	10-10	4-5	4-5	20	20	100.0
10	Nick Novak, PK	SD	28	31	90.3	50	1-1	6-6	11-14	8-8	2-2	37	37	100.0
			FIELD GOALS									EXTRA POINTS
RK	PLAYER	TEAM	FGM	FGA	PCT	LNG	1-19	20-29	30-39	40-49	50+	XPM	XPA	PCT
11	Phil Dawson, PK	SF	27	30	90.0	55	0-0	11-11	5-5	8-9	3-5	38	38	100.0
	Josh Brown, PK	NYG	18	20	90.0	46	0-0	8-8	5-6	5-6	0-0	27	27	100.0
	Dan Carpenter, PK	BUF	27	30	90.0	55	0-0	10-10	5-5	9-10	3-5	29	29	100.0
14	Robbie Gould, PK	CHI	25	28	89.3	58	0-0	11-11	6-7	6-7	2-3	41	42	97.6
15	Graham Gano, PK	CAR	23	26	88.5	55	0-0	9-9	4-5	4-6	6-6	37	37	100.0
16	Mason Crosby, PK	GB	30	34	88.2	57	1-1	11-11	7-7	6-8	5-7	35	35	100.0
17	Adam Vinatieri, PK	IND	29	33	87.9	52	0-0	4-4	8-8	13-15	4-6	29	29	100.0
18	Matt Bryant, PK	ATL	21	24	87.5	53	0-0	9-9	5-6	4-4	3-5	34	34	100.0
19	Blair Walsh, PK	MIN	26	30	86.7	54	0-0	7-7	12-12	5-6	2-5	39	40	97.5
20	Jay Feely, PK	ARI	25	29	86.2	52	0-0	8-10	6-6	8-8	3-5	35	35	100.0
			FIELD GOALS									EXTRA POINTS
RK	PLAYER	TEAM	FGM	FGA	PCT	LNG	1-19	20-29	30-39	40-49	50+	XPM	XPA	PCT
21	Ryan Succop, PK	KC	21	25	84.0	51	0-0	6-6	9-10	5-5	1-4	48	48	100.0
22	Rob Bironas, PK	TEN	20	24	83.3	47	0-0	10-10	7-8	3-5	0-1	38	38	100.0
23	Alex Henery, PK	PHI	21	26	80.8	51	0-0	8-8	7-8	5-8	1-2	35	35	100.0
24	Mike Nugent, PK	CIN	16	20	80.0	54	0-0	2-2	4-5	7-9	3-4	42	43	97.7
25	Billy Cundiff, PK	CLE	19	24	79.2	51	0-0	5-5	5-6	7-9	2-4	30	30	100.0
26	Rian Lindell, PK	TB	20	26	76.9	53	0-0	3-3	10-12	4-6	3-5	28	28	100.0
27	Kai Forbath, PK	WSH	13	17	76.5	50	0-0	2-3	8-8	2-4	1-2	24	24	100.0
	Caleb Sturgis, PK	MIA	26	34	76.5	54	1-1	4-4	10-12	8-10	3-7	32	32	100.0
29	David Akers, PK	DET	16	21	76.2	53	1-1	4-4	5-7	4-7	2-2	40	41	97.6
30	Garrett Hartley, PK	NO	22	30	73.3	55	2-2	5-6	5-8	9-13	1-1	41	41	100.0
			FIELD GOALS									EXTRA POINTS
RK	PLAYER	TEAM	FGM	FGA	PCT	LNG	1-19	20-29	30-39	40-49	50+	XPM	XPA	PCT
31	Randy Bullock, PK	HOU	23	32	71.9	51	0-0	7-7	4-4	11-16	1-5	24	24	100.0
32	Sebastian Janikowski, PK	OAK	19	27	70.4	53	0-0	5-5	4-6	7-9	3-7	34	34	100.0

Glossary

[VegasInsider]

30th

See yaaaaaa

[Carseller4]

I guess Morten Anderson wasn't interested?

[DrStale]

I didn't know that kickers are supposed to block now. Wow someone blocked a FG!

One of them was just missed, the other was blocked. The blocked FG was due to a bad, low trajectory kick which makes it his fault. For the love Pavy I think your posts are getting even worse.

[pavyracer]

If it was a low trajectory like you are implying they need to fire the holder because the trajectory is based on the angle the ball is held. Take a Physics class!

[d2bets]

If it was a low trajectory like you are implying they need to fire the holder because the trajectory is based on the angle the ball is held. Take a Physics class!

Are you saying that it is not possible for the kicker to control the trajectory of the kick?

[pavyracer]

Are you saying that it is not possible for the kicker to control the trajectory of the kick?

Why would the kicker intentionally try to kick at a low trajectory? It's a field goal and not an on side kick.

[Chi_archie]

[seaborneq]

I was watching the kick to make it a one score game. Most kickers could make it with eyes closed and an arm tied behind their back. It wasn't close nor did it have a chance. Hooked it horribly.

[d2bets]

Why would the kicker intentionally try to kick at a low trajectory? It's a field goal and not an on side kick.

Exactly. Maybe he wasn't trying to, but he screwed up. As to your question, kickers intentionally kick at a lower trajectory on longer field goals and higher on short field goals. But the points is, yes, the kicker can (or should be able to) control the trajectory. Yes, a poor placement could effect the trajectory, but it's certainly not the only way.

[pavyracer]

Exactly. Maybe he wasn't trying to, but he screwed up. As to your question, kickers intentionally kick at a lower trajectory on longer field goals and higher on short field goals. But the points is, yes, the kicker can (or should be able to) control the trajectory. Yes, a poor placement could effect the trajectory, but it's certainly not the only way.

I know a lot about kicked ball trajectories. I have been playing soccer for the last 35 years. I can kick the ball where I want and how high or low I want. But the ball is round. With the football a slight misalignment of the ball by the holder can hook the ball, make it spin weird or don't give it the proper lift to rise above blockers.

[d2bets]

I know a lot about kicked ball trajectories. I have been playing soccer for the last 35 years. I can kick the ball where I want and how high or low I want. But the ball is round. With the football a slight misalignment of the ball by the holder can hook the ball, make it spin weird or don't give it the proper lift to rise above blockers.

I don't disagree that the placement can matter, but the odd shape notwithstanding an NFL kicker can (or should be able to) adjust trajectory, and in many, but certainly not all, cases blocked kicks are the result of faulty trajectory caused by kicker error.

[agendaman]

dammit who cares

[Cross]

Just a kicker who cares.

[Capper1124]

Crazy. Big demand for good kickers these days

[Joey Blaze]

good that piece of shit cost me a ton of money last week with his 2 shanked field goals

[BILLY MEIER]

Have the saints plus 10 in my teaser, I predict saints win and shut up all the noise about the saints mot winning on the road