New College Football Artificial Intelligence System:

**Pete0** · 11-13-10, 04:05 PM

Shiva, are u playing the UNLV ov. 52 ? ( moved half point to our disadvantage)

i know u mentioned about not playing small colleges, Does this come under a small college :P

Thanks for your time,

Pete

**ManBearPig** · 11-13-10, 04:15 PM

I don't know if I'd consider UNLV a small college as the MWC isn't like the Sunbelt. I think this should qualify...both these teams suck and so we could see this cover easily but they can be anemic on offense at times...if it fits the system you gotta play the system (at your own risk) This could be borderline.

**Pete0** · 11-13-10, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by ManBearPig

I don't know if I'd consider UNLV a small college as the MWC isn't like the Sunbelt. I think this should qualify...both these teams suck and so we could see this cover easily but they can be anemic on offense at times...if it fits the system you gotta play the system (at your own risk) This could be borderline.

Thanks for your insight

PS : you seem to be everywhere

**jcook** · 11-13-10, 05:09 PM

so shiva do u ever go back to the lines that AI didnt pick, and see how the line has adjusted over the week to see if it is now a play...

for example: would Lousiana Lafayette be a play now and the over...since the line is now Florida Atlantic - 11

**ShivaBowl** · 11-13-10, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by jcook

so shiva do u ever go back to the lines that AI didnt pick, and see how the line has adjusted over the week to see if it is now a play... for example: would Lousiana Lafayette be a play now and the over...since the line is now Florida Atlantic - 11

Hey jcook, No because, we don't have all the variables and statistical comparisons from Sportrends, that justify there picks
on specific games.
Thanks,
BOL, Shiva

**ShivaBowl** · 11-13-10, 06:11 PM

AI System Plays 11/11
Based on early lines.
East Carolina, pk to >+, WIN
AI System Over Play WIN

ECU @ UABAI System Play 11/12/10
Ball State, no play if Ball > -1.4 WIN

AI System Plays 11/13/2010
UPDATED

Utah St, N/P if > -5.7, WIN
Louisville, N/P if > -5.6, Loss
UNLV, play if > + 4.5, WIN
UTAH, N/P if > -9.4, Loss
OKST, N/P if > -11.5, WIN
Mississippi, N/P if > -3.5 Loss
KSU, play if > +1.7, WIN
Stanford, N/P if > -8.7, Push
FSU, N/P If > - 3.6 NO PLAY, FSU -6
NMSU, pk or > + NO PLAY NM > +15

AI System Over Plays 11/13
LU @ NMSU, WIN
Wyoming @ UNLV, WIN
KSU @ MIZZ, WIN

**ShivaBowl** · 11-13-10, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by Pete0

Shiva, are u playing the UNLV ov. 52 ? ( moved half point to our disadvantage) i know u mentioned about not playing small colleges, Does this come under a small college :P Thanks for your time,

Pete

I just like seeing the lines on a total move up, when I'm on the Over.
Of coarse, this is after I have already bet it.
And yes, UNLV is a Over Play.
gl

**ShivaBowl** · 11-13-10, 07:04 PM

xxx

**ShivaBowl** · 11-13-10, 07:09 PM

JC, My PM is down.....PLAY the OVERS, that's were the money is being made.

**jsund** · 11-13-10, 08:04 PM

shivabowl--what is the record for the NFL using the AI system. are the overs doing as well as it has in the college..I havent played the NFL AI system yet, and was excited to play tomorrows game--any recommendations--as to sides or totals---thanks

**AdamL2424** · 11-13-10, 09:18 PM

Wow that was sweet!!!!!! Thank you Phillip Livas!!!!

**solid152** · 11-13-10, 09:46 PM

oklahoma st. lookin good

**ShivaBowl** · 11-13-10, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by jsund

shivabowl--what is the record for the NFL using the AI system. are the overs doing as well as it has in the college..I havent played the NFL AI system yet, and was excited to play tomorrows game--any recommendations--as to sides or totals---thanks

Yes the overs are doing just as good in the NFL, I have already placed my bets on them.
It just seems that the lines moves higher, on the AI Over Plays, so you should bet early and often.
BOL

**ShivaBowl** · 11-13-10, 10:12 PM

1111

**BeBrave** · 11-14-10, 12:11 AM

Success

Given the sucess of the over bets would you suggest teasing them?

Originally posted by ShivaBowl

Yes the overs are doing just as good in the NFL, I have already placed my bets on them.
It just seems that the lines moves higher, on the AI Over Plays, so you should bet early and often.
BOL

**ShivaBowl** · 11-14-10, 07:07 AM

AI System Plays CF, week ending 11/14/2010
6-3-1
AI System Over Plays CF, week ending 11/14/2010
4-0

**Formulawiz** · 11-14-10, 07:50 AM

I asked you stay out of posting the NFL system plays. We will be doing it on our NFL thread. I have spoken to sportrends and they will remove their free handicapping systems off their website and you wont have anything to post. So please REMOVE IT.

**ShivaBowl** · 11-14-10, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by Formulawiz

I asked you stay out of posting the NFL system plays. We will be doing it on our NFL thread. I have spoken to sportrends and they will remove their free handicapping systems off their website and you wont have anything to post. So please REMOVE IT.

I cant remember anyone asking me to stop, produce a post?

Good Work Formulawiz, you got the MLB Systems shutdown and now the AI Systems are down.
And this is from someone who calls himself formulawiz, but cant post a number, to save his life.

**jcook** · 11-14-10, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by Formulawiz

I asked you stay out of posting the NFL system plays. We will be doing it on our NFL thread. I have spoken to sportrends and they will remove their free handicapping systems off their website and you wont have anything to post. So please REMOVE IT.

y..more people use that site than just shiva...pretty childish to get them to remove it just bc he posted something...

**jcook** · 11-14-10, 11:10 AM

shiva, what plays are you on today...since the website is down, i dont have access to making picks this morning...

**ShivaBowl** · 11-14-10, 11:13 AM

If you need the AI Plays for the NFL Go to Sportrends.com
or http://forum.sbrforum.com/nfl-handic...ng-system.html
Thanks, BOL.

**Texas** · 11-14-10, 11:36 AM

shiva ,will you be posting totals today? i am confused as to what has happened? where or when will you post today? so far it seems titans bears cleve?

**AdamL2424** · 11-14-10, 02:25 PM

What's the deal man? Hell we all cashed on Shivas plays and formula is a drama queen who cares if my boy Shiva post the plays as long as we are all winning!!!

**AdamL2424** · 11-14-10, 02:27 PM

Hey shiva if we have too I'll pay for it and give you the password so you can continue YOUR excellent work

**Formulawiz** · 11-14-10, 03:53 PM

If you want the NFL plays you need to go to our thread. Shivabowl, we have been posting our plays for over 2 years now and have been very succesful making a ton of money without your help. You can blame yourself for sportrends taking down their free system. I told you they wont tolerate any bullcrap. Do you think you can badmouth me on my thread and get away with it. I sent you a personal email asking you to stop posting NFL plays on your college thread and do it on our thread. No, you had the nerve to send me a threatening email that you would be my worst nightmare. Well we will see about that. I will be ignoring any comments from you if you post and hopefully other people will as well.
Sorry it had to come to this guys.

**jcook** · 11-14-10, 06:44 PM

so u went and tattled to sportrends that he posted free played in a ncaa forum instead of an nfl one...grow up dude...that might be the dumbest thing i have ever heard...u didnt invent sportrends...get a life attention whore

**AdamL2424** · 11-14-10, 06:53 PM

Shiva get up with me and ill buy the system or whatever we gotta do

**ManBearPig** · 11-14-10, 06:58 PM

So I've been away today and notice the drama...WTF is going on now? Why did ST pull the AI data for NFL? Why does it matter who's posting the plays and where all the sudden and when has this ever been a problem in the past? I have their NFL/NCAAF/NBA systems. As a paying customer I should be privileged to this information. Why kind of BS company pulls this data from customers who pay? I don't care if it was free and they were doing a favor or whatever. I'll be sending an email to them to get some answers.

**AdamL2424** · 11-14-10, 07:17 PM

If you already got the system manbearpig then we are golden!!! I'll throw you some money and we can start our own thing with Shiva being the head honcho... I've been killing it with shiva

**ManBearPig** · 11-14-10, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by AdamL2424

If you already got the system manbearpig then we are golden!!! I'll throw you some money and we can start our own thing with Shiva being the head honcho... I've been killing it with shiva

Haha...unfortunately I don't have the numbers that she's posting. The AI plays are posted by SportsTrends and they have their own set of calculations that they use to spit out the plays, which I don't think is available even if you have the system. At least I haven't been able to determine this through the software. So we're kind of SOL unless they put them up again.

I just think it's dumb that you would put plays freely to be used by anyone and they're going to be taken down because they were posted on an incorrectly labeled message board.

There has to be more going on here that we don't know about because this is just too dumb and beyond rational comprehension to believe that this would be it. I've only recently come across and wanted to tail some of these and of course I get the short end. Like I said I'll be sending an email to inquire more.

**shaggy3000** · 11-15-10, 01:08 AM

So Shivabowl does this mean no more over/under bets for college and pros? like i just found this thread and it made my saturday. went from bad to amazing all because of your overs. i hope it isnt the end because picks with this kind of repeated winnings doesnt happen very often at all. im sure everyone would want to stay on this train!!!!!!

**ShivaBowl** · 11-15-10, 02:20 AM

xxx

**ShivaBowl** · 11-15-10, 02:33 AM

xxx

**ManBearPig** · 11-15-10, 02:35 AM

I don't get it though...how can you go wrong here? They post the plays we play them. I could see if someone was touting but that doesn't seem to be the case here. It's a free sharing of knowledge is all. Who really cares about which method. I was thinking I had a good source to supplement my own capping (or attempt at it) and now it's taken away?

I'm already pissed that I totally forgot to play the total plays today as they both hit...of course.

What also eeks me, as it should others, is that I'm not just riding their coat-tails - I've paid money for their systems so I think I should have access to this data as well. All this political crap just makes it more trouble than it's worth IMO. I'm just here to win some cash and knowledge share...why's everything gotta be so complicated.

Will they put them back up or are we pretty much SOL...at the least I see the TOER plays are up still so let's try not to fu#$ that up.

**ShivaBowl** · 11-15-10, 02:44 AM

Originally posted by Formulawiz

If you want the NFL plays you need to go to our thread. Shivabowl, we have been posting our plays for over 2 years now and have been very succesful making a ton of money without your help. You can blame yourself for sportrends taking down their free system. I told you they wont tolerate any bullcrap. Do you think you can badmouth me on my thread and get away with it. I sent you a personal email asking you to stop posting NFL plays on your college thread and do it on our thread. No, you had the nerve to send me a threatening email that you would be my worst nightmare. Well we will see about that. I will be ignoring any comments from you if you post and hopefully other people will as well. Sorry it had to come to this guys.

I pulled the AI Plays for NFL, and asked people to go in your thread.