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  • Joe_Shabadoo
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 09-17-09
    • 607

    #1
    Navy @ Air Force
    Now, this is one of those games that I feel the oddsmakers are perhaps being too matter-of-fact with power rankings involed having Navy as 10-pt. dogs going into Colorado Springs.

    Accordingly, I'll probably be kicking myself on Saturday when Air Force wins by 2-tds. +.


    I'm going to bite anyway.

    Fisher Deberry/Troy Calhoun have always been in it really close with Paul Johnson/Ken Nuimatalolo, but just have been unable to close the deal. Well, at least for the past 7 seasons. But all of those games were within one score I believe.

    There's going to be variance, of course, but when teams like Army (now with Rich Ellerson), Air Force, Navy & even Georgia Southern play each other, one can almost set aside the spread and go for the value by taking the underdog for a bit more on the moneyline than what would normally be wagered.

    The preparation against each other's offensive gameplan results in close, close games relying even more so on the turnover margin.

    The oddsmakers know this, but a spread like this with even 2009's version of Army would be a bit hard to swallow.

    Purely by pragmatism, one would have to side with Navy keeping it within a score. Navy has perhaps their most experienced O-line ever, and Ricky Dobbs is coming back into form.

    That being said, one of the caveats that I wanted to sort out if I was to bet on Navy was the 5-player turnover in Navy's LB-corps. As expected, in '09, they weren't great athletes, but that contingent improved since their dreadful 2007 showing and were all just so well prepared and intelligent. They were outsized, and outmatched on paper, but usually came out on top with a some huge game-changing plays last season.

    I'd be surprised if this line doesn't end up at 8-even, but, regardless, anything at 6.5 or over would be a prudent play in my opinion.
    Last edited by Joe_Shabadoo; 09-29-10, 01:57 AM.
  • shoebox
    Restricted User
    • 11-26-08
    • 5710

    #2
    Tough game to call coach has made some bad choices
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    • dume walker
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 04-08-10
      • 971

      #3
      Joe, I have to say I really enjoy your write-ups. Some of the most incisive I've seen.

      BTW, did you mean Georgia Tech (another option team) instead of Georgia Southern, perennial FCS power?
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      • dume walker
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 04-08-10
        • 971

        #4
        Couple of more pieces of info FWIW. Gold Sheet picked Navy to win by 1 as one of their 4 key releases. Nothing to do backflips over. They seeme to be running about 50/50 on those. But they did point out Navy is 35-18 ATS on the road their last 53 games. BOL with this.
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        • dume walker
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 04-08-10
          • 971

          #5
          Originally posted by shoebox
          Tough game to call coach has made some bad choices
          I'm assuming you mean Navy's coach.
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          • Joe_Shabadoo
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 09-17-09
            • 607

            #6
            Originally posted by dume walker
            Joe, I have to say I really enjoy your write-ups. Some of the most incisive I've seen. BTW, did you mean Georgia Tech (another option team) instead of Georgia Southern, perennial FCS power?
            No, I meant Georgia Southern. I made it a point to scrounge and find a stream when Navy visited Georgia Southern a few weeks ago. They're both of the Paul Johnson coaching tree (Ken Nuimatalolo/Jeff Monken) and were analogs of each other schematically.

            Navy was a sizeable favorite, but the game was very, very close. There just is not much to surprise the other team with when a unique scheme is exactly the one employed by your opponent, albeit with lesser athletes/depth (perhaps).
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            • Joe_Shabadoo
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 09-17-09
              • 607

              #7
              Originally posted by dume walker
              Joe, I have to say I really enjoy your write-ups. Some of the most incisive I've seen.
              Thank you. I appreciate it.
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              • THE PROFIT
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-27-09
                • 17701

                #8
                Navy is 15-0 SU & 13-2 ATS in L15 vs Academies
                Navy is 7-0 SU & ATS vs AF
                Navy is 19-4 ATS as road dogs
                Navy is 16-0 ATS as road dogs vs team that allows 19 or more points
                AF is 5-10 ATS as favs in this series
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                • kurt_06518
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 09-24-10
                  • 402

                  #9
                  i think navy is the play but they have been so erratic this yr
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                  • THE PROFIT
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-27-09
                    • 17701

                    #10
                    these type of Rivalry games are hard to call. You cant give up 10 points not when the one getting 10 has dominated the other for so long. These games are what service academies live for. One beating the other one is like their national c'ship. Too much emotion to be laying DD's.
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