The Big East. Who is Up? Who is Down?

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  • BigdaddyQH
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-13-09
    • 19530

    #1
    The Big East. Who is Up? Who is Down?
    The Big East is often considered to be the Stepsister of the BCS family. Let's see what they have to offer this season:

    Cincinnati: Down. The offense retuens 6 starters, and QB Collaros is certainly a more than capable replacement for QB Pike. This team should not have problemsscoring, though the o-line will need some work. The defense is where the huge problem is. only 5 palyers with starting experience return to a defense that was a siv at the end of the season. Help is needed up front. Add on the loss of HC Kelly, and the Bearcats do not repeat this season.

    Connecticut: Up. This team played theough adversity last year, and did quite well. 8starters return on an offense that will have to improve it's point output. More depth may be needed. The defense returns 7 starters, and was the key last year. The secodary takes a hit, as deos the l-line, but depth is there. The big question for HC Edsell is can he get this team to play with the same emotion that they showed last year after the death of Jasper Howard.

    Lousiville: Even. The Cards return 7 starters on an anemic offense that was held to 14 points or less 5 times last season. The o-line needs the most help, as it is inexperienced and thin. The defense returns 6 starters, but loses a lot of depth. Both tackle and safety positions get hit hard. New HC Strong has his work cut out for him if he wants the Cards to improve on their 4 win season of last year.

    Pittsburgh: Down. Pitt simply loses too many players to contend this season. Only 4 starters return on offense. Pitt will be able to run the ball, but must find a new QB, some WR's and some o-line help. The defense returns starters, but gets hit hard on the line and in the secondary. The schedule is not much of a help, opening at Utah and hosting Miami (FL). Wanny will have to do his best coaching job for Pitt to contend this season.

    Rutgers: Down. This team was a disapppintment last seasn. Losing 6 starters on offense will not help matters much. The defense returns 6 starters, but must replace the LB corps. The schedule is brutal, with games at Pitt, USF, Cincinnati and West Virginia, plus a home game against North Carolina. 7 wins looks about right for this team.

    South Florida: Even. This would be a down, but we will give new HC Holtz the benefit of the doubt here. The offense returns 8 starters, and should be able to score points. They will have to because the defense only returns 4 starters, and also has depth issues, especially in the secondary. The schedule is no help at all. Games at Florida, West Virginia, Cincinnati and Miami (FL) do not make for a real pleasant away schedule. This team shold be fun to watch.

    Syracuse: Up. The Orange may finally be turning the corner. 8 starters return on offense, and QB Nessib has some experience. The ground game should be good whith experienced RB's and an experienced o-line returning. The defense returns 10 starters, but gets hit depth wise at CB. This team is on the way up. They are "uspet special" defined. Do not count them as an automatic win.

    West Virginia: Up. The favorites to win the Big East return 7 starters on offense, but must replace QB Brown. So far, that has not been easy. The ground game looks solid, with RB Devine returing and 4 o-linemen returning. The defense returns 8 players, but will need some help in the secondary. HC Stewart is going to have to step it up a notch with a new A.D. at the school. That means a Big East Championship. No less will be accepted.

    Overall, the Big East is in a very precarious position. With rumors flying about the demise of the conference, the MWC's improvment, and some humiliating bowl losses recently, things do not look real good for this conference in 2010. With all of their contenders facing at least one difficult non-con opponent, we shall see just how good or bad this conference really is.
    Last edited by BigdaddyQH; 05-09-10, 03:19 PM.
  • scarp
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 01-12-10
    • 697

    #2
    league will be down overall this year
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    • BigdaddyQH
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-13-09
      • 19530

      #3
      I think so, and tis will just feed more fuel to the many fires already burning. Will the Big 10 and the ACC raid the Big East and finally put it out of it's misery?
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      • The DiB
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 11-22-09
        • 510

        #4
        Bigdaddy, what happened to Rutgers QB Tom Savage? He was only a freshman last year.

        I wouldn't be surprised to see Cincy 3peat. Lots of offensive weapons, including incoming transfer Vidal Hazelton from SoCal. Last year all a lot of talk was about how Cincy had to replace their entire defense. Bring back only 5, but not ready to count them out just because of that. Curious to see if Butch Jones can keep that train rolling.
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        • BigdaddyQH
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 07-13-09
          • 19530

          #5
          Originally posted by The DiB
          Bigdaddy, what happened to Rutgers QB Tom Savage? He was only a freshman last year.

          I wouldn't be surprised to see Cincy 3peat. Lots of offensive weapons, including incoming transfer Vidal Hazelton from SoCal. Last year all a lot of talk was about how Cincy had to replace their entire defense. Bring back only 5, but not ready to count them out just because of that. Curious to see if Butch Jones can keep that train rolling.
          My error. Savage is still there. As far as Cincy goes, I think the loss of their HC and the fact that their defense is always so porous I will shy away from them. West Virginia HC Stewart is in the hot seat. He had better win, and win this season with the new AD brething down is back.
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          • john2153
            SBR Hustler
            • 02-12-10
            • 79

            #6
            I am a huge Uconn fan and we are all excited about this year. I think they have a great shot to win the league.

            Uconn gets the other top teams at home (WVU, Pitt, and Cincy) this season.

            The offense was non existent two years ago, but Uconn hired a new o-coordinator last season and they got much better as the season progressed. I expect more improvement this year. Their o-line is huge, they have tremendous depth at RB and QB Zach Frazer should continue his good play from the end of last year. The WRs are young, but talented and their growth is a key to the season. I think they will be fine in this offensive system.

            One weakness on defense is the safety position, who got burned multiple times in the spring game by the first team offense. This is something to look out for when the season starts. Every other position on defense is solid and I expect Edsall to have them ready to play like always.

            Also, I feel Edsall is the best coach in the league now with the departure of Brian Kelly to ND. Uconn was 10-2-1 ATS last year, so it will be interesting to see how Vegas views them this season.

            I can't wait for the season to start!
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            • BigdaddyQH
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-13-09
              • 19530

              #7
              Let's see how UConn fares at Michigan. A win there and they are off to the races because of a very soft non-con schedule. A loss and UConn becomes just another team in what is perceived to be the weakest BCS Conference.
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              • john2153
                SBR Hustler
                • 02-12-10
                • 79

                #8
                Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                Let's see how UConn fares at Michigan. A win there and they are off to the races because of a very soft non-con schedule. A loss and UConn becomes just another team in what is perceived to be the weakest BCS Conference.
                I agree with that completely, the Michigan game is huge from a perception standpoint.

                But it has no impact on the conference race. I could see Uconn losing yet still taking the league.

                We shall see what happens. Should be a fun season.
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                • BigdaddyQH
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 07-13-09
                  • 19530

                  #9
                  Originally posted by john2153
                  I agree with that completely, the Michigan game is huge from a perception standpoint.

                  But it has no impact on the conference race. I could see Uconn losing yet still taking the league.

                  We shall see what happens. Should be a fun season.
                  Let me ask you this. With all the rumors flying around about Conferences expanding, and the possible raiding of the Big East by the Big 10 and the ACC, have you heard any rumors about where UConn may end up?
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                  • john2153
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 02-12-10
                    • 79

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                    Let me ask you this. With all the rumors flying around about Conferences expanding, and the possible raiding of the Big East by the Big 10 and the ACC, have you heard any rumors about where UConn may end up?
                    There was a rumor about a month ago that Uconn was the team the Big 10 was eyeing. Of course, there have been other rumors that have said Rutgers, Pitt, and Syracuse were the possible teams to move as well.

                    I have no clue what is going to happen at this point. One conference is going to make a move though that sets off all kinds of other moves. College football will look completely different 5 years from now than it does now. The latest rumor I saw today was Nebraska, Missouri, Notre Dame, and Rutgers to the Big 10. In this scenario, the Big East is not hurt at all. Rutgers is replaceable. However, if the Big East loses 3 or more teams, it would mean the end of the conference (in football anyway) all together.

                    I don't know what to think anymore honestly. As a fan, I would like for Uconn to remain relevant, so if there is no Big East, of course I would like to have them in the Big 10 or another BCS league. But at the same time, there wouldn't be any rivalries and they would feel like the odd man out in the Big 10, just like Boston College is in the ACC.

                    I think the most likely scenario to occur is four or five super conferences of 12-16 teams. I have no idea who will be in each league at this point though. I really hope the Big East stays together as I feel the conference gets a bad reputation and is much stronger than people think, but I won't get my hopes up too much.
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                    • plzkthx
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 11-25-09
                      • 487

                      #11
                      nice write up..great info
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                      • BigdaddyQH
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 07-13-09
                        • 19530

                        #12
                        Those rumors about the Big 10 epanding were false, started by some Kansas City radio station that specializes in false rumors. As far as UConn and expansion goes, if the Big East breaks up, they will most likely go to the ACC and join Boston College, Va.Tech, and possibly West Virginia in a newly alligned ACC division. I can see a 16 team ACC Conference looking something like this:

                        North:

                        Boston College
                        UConn
                        Louisville
                        Maryland
                        Virginia Tech
                        Virginia
                        Wake Forest
                        West Virginia

                        South:

                        Clemson
                        Duke
                        Florida State
                        Georgia Tech
                        Miami
                        North Carolina
                        N.C. State
                        South Florida

                        Something along those lines. Ofcourse all of this is nothing more than total speculation at this point.
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