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  • bigboydan
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-10-05
    • 55420

    #1
    If You Bet College Football Ml's...read This
    This is a pretty damn good read LT.

    I always find myself getting screwed by those miracle comebacks performances, However I'll always bet the value if there is any even despite a possible 7-10 point spread starring in my face that is ready for the pickings.


    On a side note...

    I find it hard to believe that I'm the only one here that has profited enormously cashing in on some of these big doggies via the scalping route this year. If you haven't explored that avenue yet then I highly suggest you do so.


    When to bet NCAA Football money line underdogs

    By: LT Profits Sports Group

    Most people bet the point spread in college football, but this has been a great year for betting money lines, as one overlay after another has cashed in. Not all of them have been small upsets either, as you will see that Colorado over Oklahoma and Rice over Southern Miss were playable based on the enclosed value table.

    Well, if you think that this has been a crazy college football season, with each week filled with more upsets than usual, you are right.

    Underdogs are 90-262, 25.6 percent straight up this season, which is significantly higher than the overall straight up success rate of 23.7 percent for underdogs since 1985. This should actually be good news for bettors, except that the vast majority of players bet the point spread and are very reluctant to bet underdogs on the money line.

    Thus, most players are missing a chance to cash in on a year where more underdogs than usual are winning with sufficient value to make a wager on them. This leads us to the question of how does one know if it is better to bet the money line or the point spread if you like the underdog in a particular game.

    To this end, we have broken out all NCAA Football games since 1985 into several spread ranges for both home and road underdogs, and we have determined the money line break-even point (BE) within each range. Here is a summary of our results (records are straight up with ties omitted):

    Code:
    HOME UNDERDOGS                                        ROAD UNDERDOGS
    Range  	W  	L  	Pct  	BE  	  	Range  	W  	L  	Pct  	BE 
    1-2½ 	293  	315  	48.2%  	+108  	  	1-2½ 	343  	358  	48.9%  	+104 
    3-6½ 	470  	797  	37.1%  	+170  	  	3-6½  	624  	1047  	37.3%  	+168 
    7-9½  	214  	560  	27.6%  	+262  	  	7-9½ 	280  	813  	25.6%  	+290 
    10-13½  	134  	507  	20.9%  	+378  	  	10-13½  	261  	915  	22.2%  	+351 
    14-16½ 	62  	308  	16.8%  	+497  	  	14-16½  	99  	690  	12.5%  	+697 
    17-20½  	34  	294  	10.4%  	+865  	  	17-20½  	77  	714  	9.7%  	+927 
    21-26½  	18  	291  	5.8%  	+1617  	  	21-26½  	38  	792  	4.6%  	+2084 
    27+  	6  	203  	2.9%  	+3383  	  	27+  	14  	953  	1.5%  	+6664
    Obviously, if you can get a money line higher than the BE within that spread range specific to home and away, the underdog merits a play. This probably happens more frequently than many people think, as money lines are oftentimes inflated more than point spreads are. This is because bookmakers know that most people have the mentality of “there is no way the favorite loses outright,” so they get away with setting artificially high money lines.

    Now by no means are we suggesting that anyone should have bet Appalachian State over Michigan or Stanford over USC. In fact, there was no money line available on Appalachian State since they are a Division I-AA school, and Stanford closed at around +4500 on the ML, not even close to the BE of +6664 for road underdogs of +27 or more.

    However, a couple of huge upsets that were playable based on the tables above were Colorado over Oklahoma and Rice over Southern Mississippi. Colorado was +23 points at home, meaning that the BE for their range was +1617. However, the actual ML varied between +1800 and +1900, which would have meant a very nice ticket. As for Rice, they were +20½ on the road, which has a BE of +927. Yet, their ML was available at +1200.

    Those are just a couple of the big upsets that could have been cashed this year, but there have been many smaller upsets each week that fit the BE criteria. We suggest you print out the tables above and search for more value money line dogs each week. You will be surprised at just how many overlays there are.
  • hhsilver
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-07-07
    • 7374

    #2
    Thanks LT and Dan - this is very valuable info. I am one of those who pretty much sticks to point spreads. Maybe it's time to change my ways.
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    • taurus
      SBR High Roller
      • 08-11-05
      • 206

      #3
      I play ML dogs, maybe 2-4 each week.
      My best hits so far this year have been New Mexico +330 v Arizona and Louisville +362 v Cincinnati.
      I've lost two ML plays that would have been winners ATS
      Memphis lost by 2 to Ole Miss
      Wash St lost by 3 to Arizona St.
      Good thread.
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      • VolinArizona
        SBR High Roller
        • 09-06-07
        • 171

        #4
        Is there a site or tool somewhere to calculate edges on MLs?
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        • swifty
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 02-22-06
          • 672

          #5
          Thanks for the info, does make some good money when playing the ML for college plays
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          • bigboydan
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 08-10-05
            • 55420

            #6
            Originally posted by hhsilver
            Thanks LT and Dan - this is very valuable info. I am one of those who pretty much sticks to point spreads. Maybe it's time to change my ways.
            You need to start exploring the ML options a bit more bud. I know it's late in the season and all, but the ML's right now are right for the picking.
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            • Tunes
              SBR High Roller
              • 02-28-07
              • 234

              #7
              Would this make Temple, a home dog at +5 1/2, a M/L play at +200?

              Just wanna make sure I'm reading this right, thanks.
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              • LT Profits
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 10-27-06
                • 90963

                #8
                Tunes,

                This means that IF you like Temple, then YES, money line has value and is preferable to spread.

                I guess what I am saying is make your picks first and then check the chart, rather than letting the chart make your plays for you.
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                • curious
                  Restricted User
                  • 07-20-07
                  • 9093

                  #9
                  Hi,
                  Where did you get that chart LT?

                  I always play the moneyline on big dogs. I bet 2X on the spread and X on the moneyline. By big dog I mean +400 or more on college football.
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                  • LT Profits
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-27-06
                    • 90963

                    #10
                    I accumulated it with my WinPicks software
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                    • curious
                      Restricted User
                      • 07-20-07
                      • 9093

                      #11
                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                      I accumulated it with my WinPicks software
                      Do the picks on your pick service come from this kind of analysis?
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                      • LT Profits
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-27-06
                        • 90963

                        #12
                        Like my response to Tunes, I use stuff like this to justify a play, rather than using it to make a play.
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                        • VolinArizona
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 09-06-07
                          • 171

                          #13
                          Wouldn't it make sense, though, if you had the bankroll, to maybe look at every ML every week and put 1u on every edge using the chart? I did this this week (not the actual booking of bets, though, studying it all) and there are about 23 MLs with positive expectation.

                          Like I asked, would it be wise, if the bankroll allows, to bet every ML dog edge you find every week?
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                          • Aces
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-22-05
                            • 1278

                            #14
                            Mississippi State +1200 looks good to me.
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                            • VolinArizona
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 09-06-07
                              • 171

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Aces
                              Mississippi State +1200 looks good to me.
                              You would need +2084. Not even close.
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                              • LLXC
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 12-10-06
                                • 8972

                                #16
                                Good info; Thanks.
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