Early Game Looks. Oregon State at TCU

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  • BigdaddyQH
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    • 07-13-09
    • 19530

    #1
    Early Game Looks. Oregon State at TCU
    This is an add on game that both Oregon State and TCU arranged very late by juggling their schedules around. It will be played on 9/4, in Arlington Texas, so technically it is a "neutral site" game. Right. That's why I listed it as Oregon State at TCU.

    This is a very important match up for TCU. Both TCU and Boise State are once again considered the two outsiders most likey to get to a BCS Bowl game. Oddly enough, both of these teams host Oregon State. So there is a lot at stake here.

    Oregon State should not be overlooked. This team has been one win away from a trip to the Rose Bowl two years in a row. They lose both QB's, but still return 8 starters on offense, including the very dangerous Rodgers brothers, Jacquizz at RB and James at WR. Four out of five starting linemen also return. On defense, itis much the same story, with 8 starters returning, but two LB's leaving, including the MLB, who is the signal caller on defense.

    TCU returns 9 starters on offense including QB QB Dalton, but will have to depend on a pair of Soohmore RB's to carrly the load at that position. Left Tackle canalso be a trouble spot. On Defense, the Frogs return 7 starters, but lose three key starters. The loss at DE and LB has coach Patterson concerned about developing a good pass rush this season.

    Form a wagering standpoint, this game has as many curves as a mountain road has. TCU will be the favorties, and Oregon State is a good dog team, having gone 11-4 ATS as an away dog in the past 4 seasons. Unfortunately, the Beavers are also a very slow starting team, having gone 2-8 ATS in their first two lined games of the season for the past 5 years. TCU went 3-2 as a HF ATS last season, but was 15-4 ATS as Home Favorites in the previous 4 years. Then you get the technicality of this actually being a "neutral site" game, even though it is just down the street form TCU. Another thing to consider is that TCU is 1-4 ATS against bowl bound non-con teams. Watch the line closely on this game. Also watch the line movement during the week after the line comes down. Normally the lines will come down very early because it is the first week of the season. Be especially knowledgeable of the line movement if TCU opens up as a small favorite (-3 or less). There may be an opportunity for a "middle" here. TCU has to win this game big if they want to compete with Boise State, and the gamblers know it. This should be a great test for any 'capper.
    Last edited by BigdaddyQH; 04-15-10, 10:18 AM.
  • Ch3fDan
    SBR Sharp
    • 02-02-10
    • 305

    #2
    This is an incredibly interesting game, possibly the best intriguing game I can find for next year. Part of me says TCU will be too much for the Beavers to handle, but I watched Oregon St. win games they had no business winning last year. It seemed as Oregon St. looked at times they were always in games.

    I really think Dalton will have a spectacular year, especially coming off such a disappointment in Fiesta Bowl. Losing Hughes on the outside will be a big loss but TCU still returns a lot of talent on both sides of the ball and I expect them to come out on top. I still think TCU was a better team than Boise St. last year despite that one game.


    Anyway you look at it, this game will be awesome.
    Last edited by Ch3fDan; 04-17-10, 03:35 PM.
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    • blanda
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 12-18-09
      • 728

      #3
      Thanks for the good info, Dan.
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      • BigdaddyQH
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        • 07-13-09
        • 19530

        #4
        Dan. TCU and Boise State played in the Fiesta Bowl last year. Dalton looked rather terrible in that game, and you can bet that Oregon State's defense will study that game all summer. There is also no secret that the MWC is pushing their teams to concentrate on the games involving BCS Conference foes. Right now, the A.Q. (Automatic Qualification into a BCS Game)) for the MWC is looking very good. If the Pac 10 expands this summer and takes Utah, the MWC's A.Q. takes a big hit. So games like this are critical to the Conference. Tis game and the one against Baylor, at home, are the only two games that T.C.U. has involving BCS teams. Just another fraction to throw into the equation.
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        • Ch3fDan
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          • 02-02-10
          • 305

          #5
          Oops yeah the Fiesta Bowl is right... I don't see the Pac 10 making a real move on Utah any time soon, so I think the MWC will remain a strong conference for years to come. Oregon St. is going to need to find a defense if they want to have a shot at TCU.
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          • BigdaddyQH
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            • 07-13-09
            • 19530

            #6
            The Pac 10 is already making the move. The only thing left is to determine the 12th team. Will it be Colorado (probably), BYU (doubtful), or another team (highly doubtful). With the Pac 10 looking to close a T.V. deal with either the Big 12 or ACC conference, similar to what the Big 10 has with the Big 10 Network, the Pac 10 will need a Conference Championship Game and two more teams to complete the deal. By taking Utah and Colorado, the Pac 10 gets the Salt Lake City and Denver markets.
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            • Vince Lombardi
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              • 11-23-08
              • 841

              #7
              TCU did not represent themselves in the bowl game well at all. They were better than that and with all the returners from last season you can bet that Patterson will have them ready for the 'Home" opener. I've been to see this during spring practice and they are athletic as hell and their defense will slam the door in OSU's face. Bank on it!
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              • BigdaddyQH
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                • 07-13-09
                • 19530

                #8
                TCU was anything but good in the Fiesta Bowl last year. Their offense and QB were terrible. Boise State did not play their game and still won. Spring practice means nothing. TCU will be a favorite in this game, but by how much I do not know. People who make such bold statements this early in the season are the ones that lose money in a hurry. It is called H-O-M-E-R. I have no idea who will win this game as of yet, but I can guarantee you that if TCU goes in with the same attitude that you have, they will get ripped, just like they did in the Fiesta Bowl. These guys are nowheres even close to having the right to be cocky. They are not a Boise State, or an Alabama, or a Texas, or an Ohio State. One loss and they become inconsequential to the BCS. This team has to do the work. They did not in preparation for the Fiesta Bowl, and they paid the price.
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                • Vince Lombardi
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                  • 11-23-08
                  • 841

                  #9
                  You think Utah was really better than Bama when they embarrassed them in the bowl game two years ago? Hell no! Bowl Games and the bowl system as well as the BCS is horseshit. TCU is a damn good football team and they showed it all season long. When they had a month off, they shit all over themselves and blew it. They weren't the first and they won't be the last. Hell TCU beat Boise the year before in a bowl and they weren't nearly as good as they were last season. TCU will be damn good. I'm not a homer. I just live in Texas. Lots of good football teams in this state.
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                  • BigdaddyQH
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                    • 07-13-09
                    • 19530

                    #10
                    Well, why don't we wait until the line comes out, and discuss it then? The fact of the matter is simply this. TCU lost to Boise State. That is the bottom line. I do not want to hear any excuses from Texans or anyone else. If they were a great team, this would not have happened. Great teams do not give games away. It is that simple. Boise was the better team last year. They stopped TCU cold. Remember, Boise played a rather poor game themselves. If they meet again this year, Boise will be the better team. Ofcourse this will not happen again, because if Boise runs the table, with the schedule they play, they have a great shot at going to the NC game. TCU has no shot with the schedule they play. The difference? TCU does not play a team ranked in the Top 10 on the road and Boise does. Ofcourse both of these teams can lose a game, and then cpuld meet in some 2nd or 3rd tier bowl, becuase as we know, the only way a non-BCS team gets into a BCS game is if they go undefeated.

                    We shall see what we shall see. If you are a gambler, maybe we will wager a point or two, or something else on the game. Ofcourse, that all depends on the line.
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